So what's going to happen to health care now?

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So, for better or worse, we have a new President. What do you think will be the future of health care and the future of nursing as a profession? Will we be better off as nurses or worse? Will we be better off as patients or worse?

Not looking for a political argument....god knows we've had enough of those in the past few days. Emotions are running high and we all have opinions. I'm just curious as to what we can expect.

Paul Ryan has said they can use a reconciliation process through the Senate which means they avoid the simple majority. He has been salivating and prepared to do this for years

What it means is that they will effectively ram it down people's throats

I'm a little sorry to say it, because I know it will hurt a lot of people, but I would be delighted to see the GOP repeal the ACA and try to "replace" it with something the GOP would find palatable, and see how that plays with the US public.

As Rep. Alan Grayson so eloquently said during the original ACA debate, the GOP plan for healthcare is "Don't get sick. If you do get sick, die quickly."

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Oops sorry, he is actually being truthful about his evolution on the politicies. Instead of the flaming liars who occupy the Democratic Party. He has stuck to his guns on healthcare only softening on the two currently existing stipulations. No matter what he does, people like yourself are going to criticize and complain. At the end of the day, unless you plan on moving to another country, he is your president. It's better to try and see the positive instead of finding issues with everything. There is a reason he won.

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As some posters have mentioned, health care is never free. Canada has universal health care, but it's the bare minimum. You want frills or extras? Sure, at an added cost.

More importantly, health care is never free. Canadians pay very high taxes for the services we have. It's a tiered system, but roughly 40 percent of my pay every 2 weeks is gone to various taxes.

Do you also have sales tax, state tax, property tax? We pay the same amount in all the taxed as you all do and do not get healthcare for it.

Among the slew of other benefits Canadians have we don't. Trump won because our Govt sucks and is corrupt and broken. It's the ultimate experiment and all of us 60 million plus supporters could be wrong but I don't think so. Our county needs major change

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Oops sorry, he is actually being truthful about his evolution on the politicies. Instead of the flaming liars who occupy the Democratic Party. He has stuck to his guns on healthcare only softening on the two currently existing stipulations. No matter what he does, people like yourself are going to criticize and complain. At the end of the day, unless you plan on moving to another country, he is your president. It's better to try and see the positive instead of finding issues with everything. There is a reason he won.

Trump is the legal president elect, for sure - and elections have consequences, the gutting of the ACA likely one of them.

BUT, don't expect the opposition to roll over and play dead. A two million Clinton majority in the popular vote suggests to me that there's no mandate here. It's unlikely that we'll go gently into that not-so-good night. The "reason he won" does not include the support of the majority of the electorate.

Besides, after the last 8 years of racist snark and mindless obstruction, trumpkins have no business complaining about criticism.

Trump is corrupt and incompetent. It'll be interesting to watch the antics of the neocon republicans now Running things as they try to prove Einstein wrong about expecting different results from doing the same thing over and over.

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BUT, don't expect the opposition to roll over and play dead. A two million Clinton majority in the popular vote suggests to me that there's no mandate here. It's unlikely that we'll go gently into that not-so-good night. The "reason he won" does not include the support of the majority of the electorate.

2.5 million and counting. :)

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There is a reason he won.

yes, that reason would be the electoral college voting system we have instead of a democracy. Almost half of the country's eligible voters didn't want to vote at all rather than vote for him OR her. That means that less than a quarter of voters voted for Trump, with 2.5 million more voting for Clinton than Trump. And a good many people voted for him only because they thought he was the lesser evil than Clinton not because they were behind anything he said. The reason he won isn't because the American people want him in office, they obviously don't want that.

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We are all gonna die!

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The ACA has caused my families insurance to go way up. Next year our vision plan is being kicked off, more for less. They should have simply helped people that needed it without dragging everyone in the country into their *********. I work in a LTACH, and our admissions have dropped. We can no longer do direct admits for people that need it. It's a mess.

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My point Elkpark was that healthcare is not free. Furthermore, I've lived in Canada all my life, and I'm now working in the system. It's been deteriorating significantly over the last 10 years, and many Provinces have quietly moved to a two-tiered system.

you've lived in Canada all your life and call the system universal health care? Check what it's really called.

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I hope this mess gets straightened out soon. Many American's want the best health care they can get and for someone else to pay for it. The ACA has failed miserably, like many of as anticipated. So many will soon be fined by the IRS because they cannot afford a $1300 a month premium with a $7,500 deductible, it's pure madness. Hopefully we will see some real change in the nation.

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I hope this mess gets straightened out soon. Many American's want the best health care they can get and for someone else to pay for it. The ACA has failed miserably, like many of as anticipated. So many will soon be fined by the IRS because they cannot afford a $1300 a month premium with a $7,500 deductible, it's pure madness. Hopefully we will see some real change in the nation.

The median 2017 cost for a $5k deductible plan for a family is $1k per month, and I would agree that a family making say $50k a year would find that prohibitively unaffordable which is why it's doesn't actually cost them that much under the ACA. A family making $50k would only pay $225 per month after subsidies. We could instead take the higher cost patients in ACA plans and move them to their own plans, but all that does is change the route by which we're covering those folks, usually adding cost in the process.

Basically, there's not getting around paying our overall healthcare costs, which are quite high and only getting higher as more aggressive/advanced (expensive) therapies become more and more common. Changing the route by which we pay for them doesn't reduce how much it costs us as a whole.

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The ACA will be repealed, insurance companies will resume selling inexpensive policies that don't cover anything, preventative care will decrease, late diagnosis of serious conditions will increase, and people will continue to use the ED for primary care.

Medicare will change to a voucher system that will result in health care that is too expensive for seniors, block grants will replace Medicaid so more people will lose what little coverage they have, and people will continue to use the ED for primary care.

Life expectancy will decrease, infant mortality will increase, bankruptcy related to medical bills will increase.

Republicans will have their ideal healthcare plan: don't get sick, and if you do, die quickly.

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