So how is everyone doing in A&P 1 this Semester?

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Just curious- I remember reading the stories on here months before I even applied to college, then expressing my trepidation after I applied during the last week before school began.

I'm doing great so far, but gosh dangit if it isn't a lot of work. I'm taking 14 hours, this is my first time in college (first semester).

We have 1 quiz a week on the previous lecture, lab practicals are spaced out at roughly 2 weeks apart, with lecture exams about 3 weeks apart. We've already had our first lab exam/practical. 104% (bonus points).

Anyone using the Marieb lab manual (4th edition)+ Lecture textbook (8th edition)? Both 2010 prints. Notice the errors in the first 3 chapters? Discrepancies between the lab manual and the text and the online study offered by Pearson? Hahaha. It's my new side-hobby to compile a list of errors. Pearson has already corrected one of the pages and sent it to me as a PDF for the next edition, and there's more to come.

We've started the lecture on cells, and have finished with basic anatomy, chemistry, and are in tissues (having finished basic anatomy, and cells) in lab. I'm hoping at some point they sync up.

Is your lecture filled to capacity? Mine started with this insane number of people, and then a waiting list (no lie) to get into the class should anyone leave.

So tell us how you're doing, what problems you're having, what you're studying currently in A&P- I'm curious!

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Specializes in School Nursing.

Where doing tissues in lab and it is kicking my behind. Lecture so far as been 'intro' to A&P, some basics and some Chemistry. I'm feeling okay with the lecture concepts.. I'm very, very worried about the lab practical coming up..

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I am also talking A&P 1 this semester! We are using Holes Human Anatomy and Physiology 12th edition.

We just received our grades back on our first lecture/lab test. Got a 93 on the lecture and a 98 on the lab!

Our next test is in about 2 weeks it is on chapters 2, 3, and 4!

My teacher is not even reviewing chapters 2 and 4 which cover chemistry and biology concepts. She says we should already know this. Thank God I just had chemistry last semester!!

My teacher is really tough, she doesn't believe in study guides shes very old fashion. We have about 25 students in our class which is almost full but believe some will be dropping because there were some very low grades (below 50) on the first tests.

I am just hoping I continue to do well and get through this class!!

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We never used the lab manual but I do have the same textbook.

What chapters are the errors in?

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We never used the lab manual but I do have the same textbook.

What chapters are the errors in?

Chapter 1 on Anatomy between lab and text are using different terminology for the same structure.

Chapter 1 in text is different than chapter on cells in lab manual (even introducing terms not used in the text or in the lab, but expecting students to know without any foreknowledge- the first correction from Marieb). They even included an activity to label a cell based on an image which doesn't exist in the lab manual, but only the text, and again includes parts not discussed in the lab manual, but text only. Not everyone in lab is taking the lecture.

Chapter on Tissues in both, again, is utilizing different terminology for common items.

We've already had half of the class be refunded points because we answer the lab exam using the lab terminology, but the prof was expecting her lecture notes.

It's a fun game I play now.

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I am also talking A&P 1 this semester! We are using Holes Human Anatomy and Physiology 12th edition.

We just received our grades back on our first lecture/lab test. Got a 93 on the lecture and a 98 on the lab!

Our next test is in about 2 weeks it is on chapters 2, 3, and 4!

My teacher is not even reviewing chapters 2 and 4 which cover chemistry and biology concepts. She says we should already know this. Thank God I just had chemistry last semester!!

My teacher is really tough, she doesn't believe in study guides shes very old fashion. We have about 25 students in our class which is almost full but believe some will be dropping because there were some very low grades (below 50) on the first tests.

I am just hoping I continue to do well and get through this class!!

Hah, I have never taken a chem class in my life, still, I understand the concepts well enough that I explain them to others in our study group. It's probably not as intensive as your class.

My first lecture exam is this coming Tuesday, covering basic anatomy, chemistry, and part of the chapter on cells.

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We're using Martini & Nath's "Fundamentals of A & P."

First test covers:

Chapter One- Introduction/Anatomical terms/Most of this material is to be covered in Lab quizzes, but we are responsible for the material for lecture exam as well.

Chapter Two- Chemistry review. The test will largely focus on transcription, translation, protein synthesis, macromolecules' functions for this part; but there is some very basic chemistry too.

Chapter Three- Cell theory. Must know organelles, their functions, understand communication cascades, gene expression. It sounds difficult, but we're mostly responsible for the concepts and terminology for lecture. Although we are responsible for some snippets of cascades (CdCs / CdKs / P53). We also need to understand how how cancer works, and quite a few "triggering" factors.

Chapter Four- Histology. Tissue types are important. If you understand Chapter 3 well, then its been said that this part should come easily. However, we need to understand intercellular communication, and tissue interactions. The difficult parts of histology are covered in lab.

And that's it for the first exam. The prof said about 80 % of the test will come from the textbook, and 20 % will come from additional material she's added in the lecture. Her specialty involves intracellular communication, so she stresses that quite a bit (and it's useful). She also ties the theory to pathophysiology to help prepare us for the nursing program, and goes into some specifics about certain proteins for her biology majors.

There's no curve, and no study guide; however, she offered us a bonus point for writing up a paper about cystic fibrosis (one student got 3 + for doing extra work). These points are added to the first exam, so like .25% of your final grade. If you do all the extra credit assignments, I think the most you can get is +1% on your cumulative average.

Some students have dropped, but there's no telling how many are just skipping the lectures, and how many have officially quit. My first test is next Friday, and I'm petrified. I'm guessing that after we get our first official grade, that's when people will really start to panic and leave.

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We're using Martini & Nath's "Fundamentals of A & P."

First test covers:

Chapter One- Introduction/Anatomical terms/Most of this material is to be covered in Lab quizzes, but we are responsible for the material for lecture exam as well.

Chapter Two- Chemistry review. The test will largely focus on transcription, translation, protein synthesis, macromolecules' functions for this part; but there is some very basic chemistry too.

Chapter Three- Cell theory. Must know organelles, their functions, understand communication cascades, gene expression. It sounds difficult, but we're mostly responsible for the concepts and terminology for lecture. Although we are responsible for some snippets of cascades (CdCs / CdKs / P53). We also need to understand how how cancer works, and quite a few "triggering" factors.

Chapter Four- Histology. Tissue types are important. If you understand Chapter 3 well, then its been said that this part should come easily. However, we need to understand intercellular communication, and tissue interactions. The difficult parts of histology are covered in lab.

And that's it for the first exam. The prof said about 80 % of the test will come from the textbook, and 20 % will come from additional material she's added in the lecture. Her specialty involves intracellular communication, so she stresses that quite a bit (and it's useful). She also ties the theory to pathophysiology to help prepare us for the nursing program, and goes into some specifics about certain proteins for her biology majors.

There's no curve, and no study guide; however, she offered us a bonus point for writing up a paper about cystic fibrosis (one student got 3 + for doing extra work). These points are added to the first exam, so like .25% of your final grade. If you do all the extra credit assignments, I think the most you can get is +1% on your cumulative average.

Some students have dropped, but there's no telling how many are just skipping the lectures, and how many have officially quit. My first test is next Friday, and I'm petrified. I'm guessing that after we get our first official grade, that's when people will really start to panic and leave.

Brutal. Mind if I ask what college you're taking this at?

No curve grading, no study guides here. Only the text and lab manuals. But our first exam is only the first 2.5 chapters (half into 3). We're a bit behind schedule, I'm told. And what we learned in cancer was brief and in lab (might be expanded during lecture coming up). I think our chem section might be more detailed than yours, as well. Or it's basic chem. Our A&P had no pre-req. for chem.

Sounds like you're in an intensive course. I'm almost jealous, except that I'm enrolled in more hours than I care to be in at the moment.

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I go to a public research university. There's a lot of material that she covers in class, but the lecture exams are multiple choice, so if you're fuzzy on some of the material you have the comfort of being able to eliminate wrong answers. I'd PM you with what school I go to, but I don't think I'm allowed to do that yet. (new member).

I think most of the stuff for which we're responsible is pretty standard with just a little extra, but she goes into a lot of bonus details. The class doesn't really seem to be harder than any one else's, but she's a great professor.

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Specializes in Psych, LTC/SNF, Rehab, Corrections.

Doing great.

I attend a 3-hr evening class...and a 3 hr lab evening class.

But both Prof's are funny so they keep me awake! I like that they only talk about/test on things that are relevant. Other Prof's like to force you to learn unnecessary crap just to trip you up on a single test.

- There are things you learn which will be applied to the job.

- There are things you learn that are important to know but aren't used because advancements render them obsolete, i.e., digital xray. Learning about processor chemicals, film chemistry, how to clean a processor, duplicate and develop film is useful to know but unless you're in the boonies or at a really small ortho clinic, many rad depts are using some form of 'digital' xray. Hell - you don't even have to have solid techniques. You can shoot 'hot' and manipulate the image...which is good for the budget, for the pt, for the repeat rate.

But it hurts the new-grad xray tech.

God forbid a system glitch occurs...then what are they going to do? LOL

- ...and there are things you learn that belong in the 'random facts' category. The Prof's know fully well that you likely don't need it for the exam and won't even use it on the 'floor'.

Anyway -

Marieb has errors?

I was wondering why we didn't use that one. Now I kind of feel glad that we didn't.

We're using Martini 8e (textbook) and Pearson's MasteringA&P and MyA&P for our quizzes and study tools. this counts for 3% of our grade.

My lecture Prof did review a bit of Chem, i.e., pH scale, nucleus, Isotopes, chemical bonds, ions, reactions and types of chem reactions, compounds, carbohydrates and lipids

We have our first lab test this Thursday on chap 1-7.

1 Introduction -body planes/directional terms, lvls of organ and function, structures of body cavities.

2. Organs

3. Microscopes - Identify parts and calculate magnification

4 Cell anatomy

5. Tissues

6. Cell Transport Mechanisms

7. Integumentary system

No multiple choice...AND he's deducting points for spelling errors. *laugh*

We have our Lecture exam this week.

1. Intro to Anat & Phys

2. Chemical Level of organization

No multiple choice. We have a short essay portion, too.

Our tests were supposed to have been last week but our the community college district was updating their computer systems. Then the Prof course ID's from PEarson (publisher) went all wonky...we spent an entire lecture trying to solve these issues with a Pearson rep. But...now we're on track.

I'm a hands-on/visual learner so as long as I can visualize and draw pictures...I'm good to go.

We have a study guide...of sorts. It's a lab/lecture book offered by the school. It's just the notes from the Martini book. It's useful, I guess. You don't actually need the textbook if you have it.

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well so far i guess i'm doing ok. i have had two quizzes in lab so far and i've gotten a's on both, we have our first lecture test coming up on tuesday and our first lab practical next thursday. busy busy!!:D

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well so far i guess i'm doing ok. i have had two quizzes in lab so far and i've gotten a's on both, we have our first lecture test coming up on tuesday and our first lab practical next thursday. busy busy!!:D

right on! i'm not sure why we had our first lab practical/exam before our lecture. in fact- our lecture isn't in sync with our lab. hehe

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