So bitter? So soon?

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In this lack of a nursing shortage, I'm angered when I see timid, unprofessional, new grads getting jobs and then complaining they don't want the job because they deserve more money.

I have joined all the nursing associations I can afford, gotten all the certifications I can manage, have CNA/PCT experience, and glowing recommendations from preceptors and instructors. For what? To be unemployed?

Sure I may move out of state to land my first job, but it's frustrating that I have to leave, bear the expense of moving, start in a new place where I know no one, know where nothing is, and be unfamiliar with my surroundings and my job.

When these new grads are landing their jobs because they got lucky, all I can think is, they're in it for the wrong reasons, will leave in a few months, and make it hard for the next new grad who applies. I'm bitter that these are the people getting hired! Is that so wrong? I'm graduating in August but the people landing jobs don't even want to be a nurse. It's a means to an end and they're looking to be on these units, get into critical care so they can leave to be a CRNA.

I WANT to be a nurse, the kind that works in a hospital for whatever they give me, advocate for my profession and my specialty. I WANT to be hired into ED because I don't want to leave a unit short and make it tough for another new grad.

Sorry, I just needed to vent. I'm going back to school for an EMT and paramedic license. Nursing just isn't what I want - unemployed and in debt. I want to work. Obviously I'm never going to get a job as a nurse. So why bother fighting it?

At this point, I hear about shortages in other states, not even sure I have the money for endorsement. So back to school, more loans, more debt, and hopefully a job that will welcome me and not put me out no matter my commitment.

This is why patients complain about their nurses. You discourage the dedicated, hire the ones just looking for a check, there's no compassion on these units. Everyone is getting bitter, not better! And here's another bitter new grad, who will never get to be the nurse she's always wanted to be.

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RNs can work in EMS. They do where I am. Maybe that is possible for you.

RN's cant work in EMS unless you have an EMS cert. That is nation wide. They are probably dual certed or licensed. Also OP. Just so you know. EMS doesnt pay very good. And burn out rates are VERY high. You usually work 24 hour shifts or if you are lucky 12 hour shifts...lift lots of heavy patients...waaaaay more than you would ever do in nursing. EMT basic. You are gonna make (depending on where you work and states) $9-$11 bucks an hour. Yea that low. Unless you get land a sweet job with a company that pays great which there aint hardly any of em out there anymore....Paramedics make about $20 an hour. Depending on experience but you can almost go anywhere and get a job as a paramedic. You NEVER work under the direction of an RN. Whoever said that is wrong. You have a medical director that you practice under. But you are kinda your own doctor as a medic. No asking for orders etc. But like someone else said....ambulance services are cutting back too. We are seeing it everywhere. Thanks to obamacare :/ so I suggest you do some ride-a-longs first to see if its something you wanna do. Cuz most people who do EMS are not in it for the money! Obviously this is all just general info and this is all PRE-HOSPITAL info. I think you should follow through with nursing school and finish. You will get a job somewhere. Just keep your head up. Even if you dont like nursing then you can turn to EMS....it is a very fun job.

Specializes in Primary Care; Child Advocacy; Child Abuse; ED.

RN's cant work in EMS unless you have an EMS cert. That is nation wide. They are probably dual certed or licensed. Also OP. Just so you know. EMS doesnt pay very good. And burn out rates are VERY high. You usually work 24 hour shifts or if you are lucky 12 hour shifts...lift lots of heavy patients...waaaaay more than you would ever do in nursing. EMT basic. You are gonna make (depending on where you work and states) $9-$11 bucks an hour. Yea that low. Unless you get land a sweet job with a company that pays great which there aint hardly any of em out there anymore....Paramedics make about $20 an hour. Depending on experience but you can almost go anywhere and get a job as a paramedic. You NEVER work under the direction of an RN. Whoever said that is wrong. You have a medical director that you practice under. But you are kinda your own doctor as a medic. No asking for orders etc. But like someone else said....ambulance services are cutting back too. We are seeing it everywhere. Thanks to obamacare :/ so I suggest you do some ride-a-longs first to see if its something you wanna do. Cuz most people who do EMS are not in it for the money! Obviously this is all just general info and this is all PRE-HOSPITAL info. I think you should follow through with nursing school and finish. You will get a job somewhere. Just keep your head up. Even if you dont like nursing then you can turn to EMS....it is a very fun job.

Never said I knew all the legal aspects of RNs working in EMS just stating a fact of RNs where I am working in EMS without any special certification.

OP I wish you would reconsider stepping away from your nursing degree. There are so many other places you could be looking at. Why would you want to work so hard and have so much money tide into this and then step away from it all. It might take you longer and more applications then some of your school mates. But there is a big world of nursing out there for you that you might not have even tried yet to look at. What about hospice, Home or private care, Rehab Facilities. Don't give up and keep sending in those apps. You never know when your turn for that job offer will come.

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Eeeeh, if the OP has family that is willing to pay her a livable wage and bennies to do EMT work...why not? Why would anyone be a nurse, ever, if that was the issue? :p

Specializes in ED, trauma.

Well, I spoke with my family, and they too are disappointed to see me give up on nursing. So now I am looking out of state to see where I could possibly relocate 3 adults into a single story home and still make a semi-decent wage as a nurse to support the household. Any suggestions?

Specializes in PDN; Burn; Phone triage.
Well, I spoke with my family, and they too are disappointed to see me give up on nursing. So now I am looking out of state to see where I could possibly relocate 3 adults into a single story home and still make a semi-decent wage as a nurse to support the household. Any suggestions?

Where do you live now?

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Where do you live now?

Currently in Florida. Trying to avoid anywhere too extreme (hot or cold) because my parents have arthritis and I might just melt in a place like Death Valley.

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How can you really know how the job market is when you haven't graduated yet? I applyed for jobs before I graduated but it didn't seem that employers took me seriously until I got my license. I had no idea before I graduated that finding a nusing position would be so hard. I have been out of nursing school for 2 months and had my license for one month and still haven't got any job offers. You shouldn't have this attitude this soon. I am getting very frustrated with my Job Search, but I have applied for some store jobs and had some interviews for some. I'm just going to work until I get some nursing interviews.

Specializes in ED, trauma.
How can you really know how the job market is when you haven't graduated yet? I applyed for jobs before I graduated but it didn't seem that employers took me seriously until I got my license. I had no idea before I graduated that finding a nusing position would be so hard. I have been out of nursing school for 2 months and had my license for one month and still haven't got any job offers. You shouldn't have this attitude this soon. I am getting very frustrated with my job search but I have applied for some store jobs and had some interviews for some. I'm just going to work until I get some nursing interviews.[/quote']

As previously stated, in my geographical area, jobs are obtained 90% of the time prior to graduation. I have also spoken with nurse recruiters from local area hospitals, and I have discovered that more than half the hospitals in the area are under a hiring freeze for 6-8 months. I heard a new hospital was opening a GN program, went to the orientation and found they only had 2 positions which were already filled and just wanted to see who would be interested in the program the following year (that's 12 calendar months away from January 2014) for the 3-4 positions they would have. Meanwhile, more than 800-1000 nurses are being pumped out annually in this area alone. I realize I'm a science major, but I also know math....and probability does not look good for this area.

All I'm saying is, I think people should be grateful for the opportunities presented or allow people who would appreciate them to apply. If you're going to constantly act like nursing is beneath you, then it begs the question - why not apply to the advanced practice schools that don't require experience?

Everyone rushed into nursing but it is a tight economy. It is not a recession proof career if you are starting out in the recession. I just wish I could e given an opportunity to prove that my heart is in it and be called for interviews. Nursing managers have complimented my portfolio but I never get thru HR and unit managers say they don't have a budget for new grads right now.

Lucky for you that you can be interviewed for stores still, I've apples and been deemed overqualified since I will have my license in the next 60-90 days. Also, seeing as I have financial trouble with supporting ailing parents who are unable to work, working for minimum wage isn't going to help me long term, or short term honestly. Good luck in your pursuits and I will continue to do what is best for me and my family.

Moderators - can you please close this thread? I don't want my vent to continue upsetting so many people and I promise I will remember to keep my vents to myself in the future. Thank you.

I didn't intend to upset you, everyone needs to vent to get their frustrations out. You said you haven't graduated yet,maybe the things will turn out for the better once you graduate. The only people I graduated with that have jobs are the ones who had scholarships or already worked in the hospital. There are plenty of jobs where I live but they all want someone with at least a years experience, so they aren't hiring new grads, I am getting frustrated but I'm still trying to stay positive. It upsets me that I can't find a job as a nurse after I worked so hard to become a nurse, but that's how it is.

Never said I knew all the legal aspects of RNs working in EMS just stating a fact of RNs where I am working in EMS without any special certification.

Highly doubt without any special certs. Pretty sure they have EMS certs. Unless they are just ambulance drivers or work on special ambulances like not real EMS ambulance such peds transport etc

Specializes in Primary Care; Child Advocacy; Child Abuse; ED.

Highly doubt without any special certs. Pretty sure they have EMS certs. Unless they are just ambulance drivers or work on special ambulances like not real EMS ambulance such peds transport etc

Guess I should ask you to know whether something is real or not! Every area is different. Next time I will make sure to verify with you about what goes on at my hospital. Next you will time me the hospital isn't a level 1 trauma center.

OP I wish you luck and hope you find what you are looking for :)

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