Silent birth? Anyone see one?

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Okay well Katie, Tom Cruise's fiancee' is going to have a baby any minute now, and I am very curious if anyone has ever witnessed the "silent birth" that scientologists strive for.

I can't imagine a woman not moaning in pain during delivery. Can you? Ever seen anything like it?

Personally i think he snacks on paint chips.

LMAO!!!

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Some years ago, there was a doctor who advocated a setting for birth that used dim lighting and very quiet surroundings. He advocated placing the baby on mom's belly at first and letting the baby receive as much cord blood as possible, then calmly, gently, slowly, moving the baby to a warm bath. The bath was given gently, slowly, the babe relaxed and even smiled. Then, the newborn was swaddled and put to mom's breast. It was all so different than the frantic and ridiculous way that we commonly see of managing birth.

If the child was deemed unhealthy or at unusual risk, those issues were always addressed first and sometimes the bath, etc. had to be foregone or delayed. At no time was the baby's health jeopardized.

I wish I could recall his name. It's how I had my babies and it was wonderful.

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Some years ago, there was a doctor who advocated a setting for birth that used dim lighting and very quiet surroundings. He advocated placing the baby on mom's belly at first and letting the baby receive as much cord blood as possible, then calmly, gently, slowly, moving the baby to a warm bath. The bath was given gently, slowly, the babe relaxed and even smiled. Then, the newborn was swaddled and put to mom's breast. It was all so different than the frantic and ridiculous way that we commonly see of managing birth.

If the child was deemed unhealthy or at unusual risk, those issues were always addressed first and sometimes the bath, etc. had to be foregone or delayed. At no time was the baby's health jeopardized.

I wish I could recall his name. It's how I had my babies and it was wonderful.

Dr. LeBoyer, wasn't it?

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Like any expectant parents, I wish Tomand Katie a safe and happy birth, and sincerely hope that their expectations are realized.

But Tom's public discussions of this pregnancy have me worried that he is overly controlling, and has his wishes first and foremost in his mind, not the health and well-being of his partner and baby.

He has publicly stated that he straps the U/S probe to Katie's belly literally 24 hours a day to "monitor" the baby, but he worries about a little noise in the delivery room? What an (uninformed) nut job!

ya THINK?:uhoh3: :uhoh3:

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Yes Le Boyer.

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I agree that Tom Cruise sounds controlling....but in reference to the story going around that he keeps the ultrasound probe strapped to Katie 24 hours a day....he was joking about it being on 24 hours a day! :rolleyes: I read his interview in the current GQ magazine which is where this quote comes from. It's an interesting interview. The interviewer asks: "Is it true you bought a sonogram machine?" Tom's answer: "I have it strapped to her twenty-four hours a day. Absoulutely anywhere she goes, we have it attached." (laughs)

Barb

Personally, I don't think anything Tom Cruise says is honest or w/out a self-serving purpose. He is certifiable.

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I was talking to my mom about this today and came up with an interesting question... I wonder what Tom would say if Katie ended up with postpartum depression and wanted to take meds for it?

Apparently Nicole had too much of a mind of her own to stay in that sick dynamic. Katie will (hopefully) mature enough to someday form her own opinions & ideas w/out the brainwashing influence of Tom!!!!

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I think that Tom is the one who talks ..may be She is the one who decided how they were going to have their baby!;) famous or not...having a baby, as my doctor told me when I had my babies...it is you who is going to deliver them...I am here to assist you...I am sure that is what happened with Tom and Katie...for now lets just :welcome: that little human being into this world.

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The point of silent birth for Scientologists is their belief that an infant is a kind of blank slate and that things they hear during the birth and in the early days get "recorded" on their mental "tapes" and cause problems later in life. They also believe surgeries should be silent and that no one should talk around an anesthetized or unconscious person.

I'll keep any further opinions about Scientology to myself, but I cannot wait until the day that Katie Holmes has had enough of the domineering nut case that she managed to hook up with.

Altalorraine

I wont opinionate on Scientology either,but I am with you on the hope that Katie come s back to life. Isnt it ironic how one of the first movies Niclole Kidman did after the divorce was the Stepford wives?

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I wont opinionate on Scientology either,but I am with you on the hope that Katie come s back to life. Isnt it ironic how one of the first movies Niclole Kidman did after the divorce was the Stepford wives?
I myself was not a noise maker during any of my births,but that was what was right for me and my choice.I dont think I would have liked a religion or my husband to dictate to me.
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I think if everything is going "normal" then for the most part a fairly silent birth is okay. As a nurse however, we have to communicate not only with the patient but with other staff (unless it's a home birth I guess). If there is complications then they need to realize there may be verbal communication in the room. Let me just say, that kid is going to hear a lot of words and messages in her life- the words said in the first few days are nothing compared to what she will go through the rest of her life. :uhoh3: Besides, wouldn't you want to fill her blank slate with positive things? How about having mentally healthy parents instead?

As far as religion, yes nurses do for the most part respect a patients wishes. That does not mean we don't have an opinion. There was a young women at our hospital that died a few months back. She and her husband were Jehoves Witnesses and she was giving birth to a 4th child. The baby was fine but she had a MASSIVE post partum hemorrhage. Instead of allowing the needed blood transfusions and STAT hysterectomy; the husband let her die. Now he gets to explain to his 4 kids why they are going to grow up without a mom because he didn't want her to be impure or whatever. :madface: I'm sorry. That's not divine. That's not spiritual. It's not morality or respect for the almighty Lord. THAT IS JUST PLAIN STUPID!!! :uhoh21:

I'm sorry if it seems offensive to some, and as required, the nurses and doctor respected his wishes and let the patient die. But believe me, that doesn't mean they don't think the couple was FREAKING CRAZY!!! I hope is was worth it. :saint:

Very, very offensive, and very, very uninformed. Perhaps you should not care for Jehovah's Witness pts. in the future; you've obviously got some issues with their faith which seriously impairs your ability to be an objective caregiver. Do them a favor and ask another nurse to trade with you if you get another Jehovah's Witness assigned to you in the future.

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Last I heard Tom told the media that Katie is now called Kate because she has grown up, and is a woman who bore a child...And I hear her natural delivery was via an epidural. I wonder what "Kate" thinks...

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