Shooting at nurse's college in Tuscon, AZ??

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I am watching FOXNews and they just reported they have received a "bulletin" about a shooting at a nursing college in Tuscon. They will break in more more news as they get it. Two women have been shot...No word on condition...I hope they are not seriously wounded.

My prayers are with them.

Originally posted by LasVegasRN

I'll be the bad guy and post it:

Link to Letter

I would read a letter from the victims with the same empathy...

It is a terribly sad happening... a date that will be immortalized...

Let's learn from it and move on....

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I'm not condoning violence as a solution to anything.

But I am taking the stand that any ONE person in Bob's (yes, BOB, because he was still a human being) life could have made the difference in that tragedy, and, I believe, prevented it. Instead, we allow bullies to continue their destruction and sit quietly with our heads down, or else side with the bully to help hasten the destruction. I read that letter and heard a human being that was suffering intensely, from a government that lied to him, to a court system that allowed his wife to withhold his children from him, to an educational system that allowed arbitrary flunking depending on if the instructor liked you.

What would it have taken? Just one or two students to stand up to unfairness. That's all it would have taken to avert this tragedy. Yeah, go ahead and put total blame on the shooter. That's the easy way. I say, instead, that everyone of us should be taking a little responsibility for these events. Everytime you don't reach out to someone else, you are part of the problem. Everytime you close your ears to someone screaming for help, as Bob did many times, you are part of the problem. Everytime you see unfairness and don't speak out, you are part of the problem.

"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" Martin Luther King

There's a lot of discussion on the board about this event. Choosing up sides, placing blame, throwing insults at those who disagree with a point of view, arguments for and against gun control. Whew! Seems to me like all the answers to these kinds of tragedies have been covered. Except one. Taking a look at how those in Bob's life treated him. Is that being a bleeding heart? Or maybe it's just that when I see someone being so completely destroyed, I refuse to place total blame on him, like there was only ONE factor in the event. Oh, that life could be that simple! Black and white. Right and wrong. I envy you all that your answers are so easy and the solutions so obvious and simple.

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I'm not condoning violence as a solution to anything.

But I am taking the stand that any ONE person in Bob's (yes, BOB, because he was still a human being) life could have made the difference in that tragedy, and, I believe, prevented it. Instead, we allow bullies to continue their destruction and sit quietly with our heads down, or else side with the bully to help hasten the destruction. I read that letter and heard a human being that was suffering intensely, from a government that lied to him, to a court system that allowed his wife to withhold his children from him, to an educational system that allowed arbitrary flunking depending on if the instructor liked you.

What would it have taken? Just one or two students to stand up to unfairness. That's all it would have taken to avert this tragedy. Yeah, go ahead and put total blame on the shooter. That's the easy way. I say, instead, that everyone of us should be taking a little responsibility for these events. Everytime you don't reach out to someone else, you are part of the problem. Everytime you close your ears to someone screaming for help, as Bob did many times, you are part of the problem. Everytime you see unfairness and don't speak out, you are part of the problem.

"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" Martin Luther King

There's a lot of discussion on the board about this event. Choosing up sides, placing blame, throwing insults at those who disagree with a point of view, arguments for and against gun control. Whew! Seems to me like all the answers to these kinds of tragedies have been covered. Except one. Taking a look at how those in Bob's life treated him. Is that being a bleeding heart? Or maybe it's just that when I see someone being so completely destroyed, I refuse to place total blame on him, like there was only ONE factor in the event. Oh, that life could be that simple! Black and white. Right and wrong. I envy you all that your answers are so easy and the solutions so obvious and simple.

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Originally posted by nightngale1998

I would read a letter from the victims with the same empathy...

But they didn't get a chance to write one, did they?

Heather

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Originally posted by nightngale1998

I would read a letter from the victims with the same empathy...

But they didn't get a chance to write one, did they?

Heather

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I, for one, will not hide behind rheotrical statements....

I embrace my colleagues to have more intelligence then that... ;)

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I, for one, will not hide behind rheotrical statements....

I embrace my colleagues to have more intelligence then that... ;)

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Originally posted by Youda

Everytime you close your ears to someone screaming for help, as Bob did many times, you are part of the problem.

I guess I don't recall in the letter at all when the shooter claimed he had screamed out for help? I don't recall one attempt at all on his part, to reach out to someone and say he needed emotional/psychological help?

The point is, things happen in everyone's life that upset or hurt them. It is not that moment that matters, it is how we choose to react to it.

I am not denying that there could have been some inappropriateness going on, but I will never know, because I wasn't there. All we will ever have is one man, the shooter's, account of it. He chose to make it so we could never hear, or empathize, with the people on the other side of the story. And for that he is a coward, who instead of standing up for himself and making different choices, he picked the easy way out.

Heather

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Originally posted by Youda

Everytime you close your ears to someone screaming for help, as Bob did many times, you are part of the problem.

I guess I don't recall in the letter at all when the shooter claimed he had screamed out for help? I don't recall one attempt at all on his part, to reach out to someone and say he needed emotional/psychological help?

The point is, things happen in everyone's life that upset or hurt them. It is not that moment that matters, it is how we choose to react to it.

I am not denying that there could have been some inappropriateness going on, but I will never know, because I wasn't there. All we will ever have is one man, the shooter's, account of it. He chose to make it so we could never hear, or empathize, with the people on the other side of the story. And for that he is a coward, who instead of standing up for himself and making different choices, he picked the easy way out.

Heather

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Youda

I thought I was a bleeding heart..... listen, I read your posting and I for one DO NOT feel responsible one bit for what the killer did.

I use my emphathy at work, where bad things happen to people all the time and as a professional I try to foster, support and understand what path lead them to our ICU, whatever that path was.

This guy??????? I agree with Suzy he took the COWARD'S WAY OUT and I hope he is burning in hell right now for what he did. Cold hearted? Not in my books, the three dead nursing instructors where not perfect, but no one I REPEAT NO ONE deserves to DIE because someone is else having a shitty life. This KILLER did not learn from his mistakes, he just kept on making them.

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Youda

I thought I was a bleeding heart..... listen, I read your posting and I for one DO NOT feel responsible one bit for what the killer did.

I use my emphathy at work, where bad things happen to people all the time and as a professional I try to foster, support and understand what path lead them to our ICU, whatever that path was.

This guy??????? I agree with Suzy he took the COWARD'S WAY OUT and I hope he is burning in hell right now for what he did. Cold hearted? Not in my books, the three dead nursing instructors where not perfect, but no one I REPEAT NO ONE deserves to DIE because someone is else having a shitty life. This KILLER did not learn from his mistakes, he just kept on making them.

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