Second Class Citizens

Nurses General Nursing

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...No, it's not just me. Those of us who work the night shift, whether its from 11pm-7a or 7pm-7am, are treated like second class citizens. Its as if we don't matter, or don't exist! Obviously, those who work days (7a-3p) are the prima donas of nursing, and always get preferential treatment by higher ups, but even 3a-11p nurses don't have it as bad as graveyard workers do. We don't get any consideration by higher-ups. When scheduling inservices (which are always mandatory) they are scheduled during typically day-shift hours. Whenever the facility decides to acknowledge its workers, its always something done during their usual hours of operation in the business office (so the clerks and office personell who have little or nothing to do with nursing benefit).

Why do I bring this up, you ask? ...Well, just recently, the facility I work for completed their annual state survey. Anyone who works in long term care knows exactly how it goes. The state comes in and reviews everything about the daily operations, what is implemented as far as nursing care. How its implemented and if its being done right. Much like hospital accredidations, the facility can not accept medicare or medicaid patients without the green light from the state. And, in rare situations, must be shut down if considered extremely dangerous to patient safety. The state can also put a nurse's license up for board review if a nurse's work is considered suspect, or if she/he makes too many errors while a surveryor is standing over their shoulder. It is the most frustrating and nerve-racking experience you could ever be a part of. First of all, most facilities don't follow through year round with half the things they're supposed to throughout the year, and when their "window" opens for the state to come in, the big-cheeses run around like chickens with their heads chopped off trying to correct all their mistakes they let slide all year long. Paperwork not filed, forms that don't include certain information that they neglected to include when they designed the forms, areas not kept clean and tidy (like the med-room or even the med-carts), orders not being transcribed properly, treatments not being done (who has time to do this when you've got to do everything else: so they temporarily assign a nurse to get them done or hire someone to do it while the state is there). There are what seems like a million things that aren't done all year that suddenly matter, and guess who the brunt of it falls to to "fix"? The night shift.

Somewhere along the lines, some idiot got the brilliant notion that night nurses do absolutely nothing all night long. So, whenever there's something that has to be done (and done right), its assigned to the night nurses to get it accomplished. Things like, cleaning the med-carts (messes left by filthy nurses who think their mammas work their and will clean it up for them), junk left lying around because someone else was too lazy to find an appropriate place to put it, MD orders not taken off when they were written, and my persnal favorite...putting dates on open vials and containers. Why can't day nurses do this when they open something up? Are their precious hands too dainty for the task? (Yes, it bothers me, because I shouldn't have to correct your mistakes, because you're too lazy to do something right the first time!) But I digress...

With everything that night nurses do, first of all a lot of crap is dumped on us to "fix" or "clean up", like we're the house-keeping crew. Secondly, while the rest of you have your pretty little heads on a pillow dreaming of sugar-plum fairies, the rest of us are awake and caring for patients. We aren't sitting on our plump behinds reading romance novels and sleeping at the desk. There are lots of things done on the night shift that can't or don't get done during the daylight hours. And, regardless of popular belief, the majority of patients don't sleep at night. Most either have insomnia themselves, or have to be wakened by the CNAs during care rounds. There are falls out of bed, there are the screamers who wake everyone else up. There are duties such as assessments, head counts, and yes charting. But there is also a full med pass at 600am that has to be completed by 700am. With many facilities using CMAs now to pass meds, day and evening nurses are often spared this time consuming task. And, all this is accomplished during what normally is considered hours of sleep. But, are we appreciated? NO!

Like every other facility I've worked for, when the time comes to reward nurses (for doing their job...hmmm), night nurses aren't considered in the least. Like I said, we just completed our state survey. After all the hoop-la, we only got a few minor "tags" or "citations". The higher ups celebrated by treating the staff to pizza. That is they treated the staff from 7-3 and 3-11 to pizza. They were nice enough to leave their scraps for the night shift to pick over. (yeah, right!). Cold, disgusting looking pizza left-overs, sitting out all afternoon that stunk. That was night shift's "reward". But, that is always the way. We are second class citizens, always have been and always will be. Most of us really don't care about your little pizza parties or catered lunches, but what if we weren't there to clean up after you, and to keep operations running throughout the night, so that everything runs smoothly for you in the morning? What then? Would management finally acknowledge our contributions? Probably not.

Not jealous, but very peeved. Your reply suggests as well that night nurse's are not busy...that's just it. We are. And, we have time (all of 3 seconds) to put a date on a bottle. So yes, that is laziness. And, yes I have worked day shift, so I do know how busy it gets. As well as how many other disciplines you have to share space with. But, I have worked behind too many day nurses that leave their work for some one else to do, rushing to clock out right at 3pm. But, heaven forbid, a night nurse leave something for day shift to follow through with... you'd think the sky was falling... I have to stay sometimes until 9am in the morning after my shift just to make sure its done. I got hauled onto the carpet once because admin said I was staying too late in the am, so next time I decided to "leave it" for the next shift, well, it didn't get done, and guess who got reamed out for it? ME! I wasn not afforded the luxury of saying I was "too busy".

I'm not really trying to start a flame war, and I know there are differences between what you have to do and what is expected on my shift, but it isn't that you are so much busier than me, its just some things are different which is no excuse.

You should try working night shift for a month, then tell me I'm not busy.

Specializes in Long Term Care.

Wooo... I work night shift. I feel this way a lot. Yeah, the Day shift nurses are busy, but no busier than I am. I have a lot of adminstrative tasks that only get done on nights. I check charts, order medications, refill and restock ad nauseum, clean up and organize for day shift to make their lives easier. But the minute I don't get something done, and I leave it for Days, and they don't get it done either, I get the chewing and the write up for poor performance.

IMO every nurse should be required to work at least one month of every shift every year. That way we all would appreciate what the other shifts do.

Administrators and managers should be required to be in the building at least one week on every shift. There would be more appreciation and less gypping.

My personal favorite is when nightshift staff are scheduled to work at night, attend a class the next day and then work that night. Yeah, I'll work 7p to 7a, attend some class from 8 am to 3 pm and then come back in at 7p for another 12 hours!

Specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele.

I've worked both shifts, currently work days. I believe that these types of 'shift wars' are non-productive. There are slackers on both days and nights, neither shift has a monopoly on that.

As far as nights being 'second class citizens'... Many people like the fact that they can stay under the radar on nights, so that is a double edged sword.

Specializes in Gerontology.

Sorry - the opposite is true where i work.

night shift leaves all the work for days. They don't collect specimans. They don't put in maintenance requests if they find broken equipment. They don't tidy up after themselves - I usually start my shifts by throwing out the HS snacks still sitting on the overbed tables.

They leave all kinds of messages for day shift - mr B needs more pain meds, he was in pain all night (but they did not call the MD). Mrs A should be moved into the empty private because she kept her roommate awake all night (yet, they did not move her).

night shift comes in 10 -15 mintues late, but leaves at 7:30 am on the dot. Even if a pt is ringing. when they answer the call bell anytime after 7:00 am, they just tell the pt to "wait for your day nurse".

They don't like to turn pts because "it wakes them up". They don't do drsg changes. Once, a VAC alarm was going off. Instead of looking for the leak and sealing it, they just turned the VAC off and left it for days to take care off.

i gave up working nights because I was ostrasized for actually doing pt care and answering call bells after 7:00 am. And turning pts during the night.

If you don't like the way you are treated on nights, transfer to days.

IMO every nurse should be required to work at least one month of every shift every year. That way we all would appreciate what the other shifts do

Yes!

Specializes in Detox and Psyc nursing.

I agree that the shift wars really don't solve much. It sounds as though you believe in doing a good job at your work and kudos for that! Where I work, you get paid more to work the graveyard shift so that in itself may be worth your extra hassle. Keep up the good work!

Specializes in LTC.

I'm a CNA and I can't stand our night shift CNAs. They have such a bad attitude from the second they come in. They roll their eyes and complain about everything. We do our last rounds at 10, then do our paperwork and a some chores and cleaning up. Then when they come in at 11 o'clock and someone is wet they get all ***** and expect us to stop and change the person. Um sorry but they were clean and dry an hour ago and you can do your own rounds.

The other night they actually complained about how there were only 2 of them on the wing and none of us 3-11 people stayed late to help. This was the day after there were only 2 of us on second shift! All they do is rounds all night and a few get ups in the morning, plus dealing with people who don't sleep, vitals, and weights. Our shift does all that, including dealing with people who keep standing up/ambulating by themselves or climbing in and out of bed, and we have HS care on everyone, a meal, passing snacks, and doing showers, taking people for walks, and a lot more call lights. If we can do that with 2 CNAs then they don't need 3 to do their little rounds.

Specializes in interested in NICU!!.

you should take your post and give it to management. something good for them to see the other side of the coin. good luck!

(((hugs)))

Specializes in Cardiac, ER.

Wow,...rough night?? :yawn:

I've worked 7p-7a for almost 12 yrs now. Same situation everywhere I've worked. I'm in ER now and it is a bit better.

Let me remind you of this though,....night shifters are a breed of their own. We have a great, if often morbid, sense of humor. We have great respect for our co workers and work well as a team. We usually have limited resources at 0200, but we can be creative and get the job done. My night shift co workers are my family. I trust them and rely on them a great deal. I agree with you,..a day shifter would NEVER even be asked to come to a mandatory meeting at 0200, but we are laughed at when we try to explain why 1400 is right in the middle of our sleep! I'm sure that most of the problem is that if you have never worked all night you just don't get it. They don't understand that you can't work all night for three nights and on the fourth be in meetings all day. Imagine what would happen if just once a month one of these meetings were held from 2200-0200. I can hear it now,.."but I have kids",.."but I have to be awake during the day to go to the bank, post office, Dr's apt, get a hair cut, renew my drivers license, get my car inspected, etc". Guess what folks,...us night shifters have to do all those things too! We're tough,...we stick together and get the job done and still manage to keep our cars legal!

I've worked all three shift, and long enough to know there are pro's and cons to each. At my facility anyway..day shift-phone rings non stop, all the therapies are in, as wells as other people who come in and take up desk space. Not to mention, the Bosses, and the states usually comes during 1st shift. Second shift, not usually well staffed, most of the admissions, Sun-downing and plenty of family members. Third shift ( again I can only speak for my facility) Very laid back, few meds, and very few residents are awake.

I think in general there is a disregard for 3rd shift. While we are not left with any extra work, we are often blamed for things that happen or should be happening and are not. Or like the poster said, having meetings in the middle of the day. Hello Mr. Administrator while you are counting sheep I am making sure your residents are clean and cared for! They don't realize we sleep. Also, I cannot count the times I have heard, "well they don't do anything on third anyway" Then how come noone ever wants to do it?

I am doing nights right now and I am not a night person, there are many differences between shifts. Nursing is a 24 hour job and it is often a thankless job. I don't work for a thank you, though it would be nice once in a while.

I worked on my unit on days for 2 1/2 years before switching to nights. So I don't complain about things I know nothing about. I was able on days to clean my cart, stock my cart, do my treatments, date anything I opened, order meds that I took the last of, etc. So why all of a sudden is that too difficult to do now?

Nights does have its downtime in most cases. But when things go bad, you have no charge nurse or other personnel to help out. So in most cases you get behind. And I ditto, there is so much to be done between 5 and 7. Days you wind down at the end of the shift, nights you wind up.

I agree with everyone that we have to respect each shift, there is a pro and con to each. Its funny because many times the other shifts think nights have it so much better, but when you tell them to switch, they have a million and a half excuses why they can't or won't. ;)

I forgot to add that I think our administration does a pretty good job of including nights. They do schedule different times for inservices to allow us to either stay or come in early to attend. They have come by at 3:00am to bring a cake or other food. Our nurse manager gives us gift cards for the staff for breakfast so we go out togther for Christmas. And we usually get our own tray of munchies, etc for nights. So I can't complain about that issue.

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