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I work in an Elementary school of 900 children grades K-5. My office is attached to the front office so there's a door that connects me to the front office but there's a second door that is off the main hallway that students enter. For safety reasons our admin has us keep that door shut and locked at all times. The door doesn't have a window. My clinic is very busy and I'm required to answer every time a student knocks and let them out because the door is so heavy most kids need help out. I see an average of 100-150 kids a day. It isn't feasible to be a doorman all day and get everything needed done. I'm meeting with my admin tomorrow to talk about this. Any ideas? 

Specializes in pediatrics, school nursing.

Wow.

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londonflo said:

I am sorry you work in such a sorry school that would send a student to you with a paper cut but not accompany a student who is having respiratory problems...in fact not getting enough oxygen. I personally would not work there and neither should you. Well, then you have a job in front of you starting January 1. Meet with every teacher and explain the basics of  sustaining human life—-Airway/breathing/resuscitation. In my state, every certified teacher has to take a health class. Your state does not have this requirement? Then your job (if you believe in your job as patient advocate...even in children) is to draft a form letter asking every state (your state) representative to require a health class for all teachers and a review every 3 years.  AND CPR training. GOT IT?

@londonflo,

I've read through several of your responses to the posts here on the School Nurse board and, while I believe you have good - even great - intension and passion behind your answers, I feel that your approach is a little harsh.  I understand we can't read "tone" in a flat text format and, with that being said, it feels as if you are being a little aggressive. (see bolded, italicized part of response above).

I would like to remind you that this board is our (School Nurse's) "Nursing Station" - this is where we come for support, ideas, venting, and general comradery.  Please help us keep it an open and welcoming place, especially to new school nurses.

Please also keep in mind school nurses are generally the bottom of the priority stack in schools - while everyone loses their minds when we aren't here, having the ability to make changes, even when we know it would benefit everyone, is very difficult.

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BunnyBunnyBSNRN said:

I would like to remind you that this board is our (School Nurse's) "Nursing Station" - this is where we come for support, ideas, venting, and general comradery.  Please help us keep it an open and welcoming place, especially to new school nurses.

I appreciate your response but giving the education that lay people can complette the minimal a stand or other can do. 

BunnyBunnyBSNRN said:

Please also keep in mind school nurses are generally the bottom of the priority stack in schools - while everyone loses their minds when we aren't here, having the ability to make changes, even when we know it would benefit everyone, is very difficult.

If you keep bowing to everyone, you will lose with Competitive statistics. I bet you treat more students than a whole school does  If you cannot develop a statistic a research , based platform does.....check with your local university.

Invite those who benefitted from active in health profession...especially this have over some difficulties. we had a mam with no arms learn how to get his shoes on. 

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Specializes in pediatrics, school nursing.

@londonflo Your whole vibe is very "If you just work hard enough...." which is just not rooted in our lived experience. From your post history, I can see you have posted on allnurses at least twice per day since you joined, which tells me that you have a lot of time on your hands. Why don't you turn some of that energy into actual boots on the ground advocacy for school nurses - you seem to know exactly what we need and how to go about getting it. And as we all know, actions speak louder than words.

Ultimately, you seem to come from a different reality from ours and so we are trying to respectively ask you to stop commenting on things you know nothing about. Working in public school systems in the United States is completely different from bedside - and that is the reason this particular sub is so active compared to other specialty subs - we have no one to talk to about this in our day to day lives.

I can give multiple examples of times our nursing staff has brought cold, hard, statistical evidence to our finance director, superintendent, and school board and been met with the equivalent of "But did anyone die? No? OK, great. Sounds like you're doing just fine without xyz - request denied." 

For those of us who are here frequently and are actively working as school nurses or who have extensive school nurse experience, I'm hoping we can collectively ignore this person, who seems to draw joy from putting other nurses down - we have built this sub up to be a place of supportive listening and CONSTRUCTIVE advice, and I think if we can look past individuals who are ultimately contributing nothing but fuel for their weird desire to be mighty over others, we can remain as such! 

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I ❤️you, @k1p1ssk!

To sum up your last paragraph, "they don't even go here".

Happy Tuesday, everyone!  13 more wake ups until Winter Break! xoxo

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k1p1ssk said:

." which is just not rooted in our lived experience

 

k1p1ssk said:

. From your post history, I can see you have posted on allnurses at least twice per day since you joined, which tells me that you have a lot of time on your hands.

You are incorrect for this I  do not post a day.  . Where did you get your information from? 

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londonflo said:

 

You are incorrect for this I  do not post a day.  . Where did you get your information from? 

🤣🤣🤣

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londonflo said:

 

You are incorrect for this I  do not post a day.  . Where did you get your information from? 

OK, so it's an average and I was a little off.... but everyone can see on the header of every post that you have made (as of this writing) that you have posted 2,984 times. If I go to your profile, you have been a member since January 20, 2020, which was 1,780 days ago. 2984/1780 = 1.67 posts per day. I am sure that some days you post 8 times and others you don't post at all. But that is your average post per day rate. 

 

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BunnyBunnyBSNRN said:

I ❤️you, @k1p1ssk!

To sum up your last paragraph, "they don't even go here".

Happy Tuesday, everyone!  13 more wake ups until Winter Break! xoxo

Same!

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