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Saudi Arabia - Good Idea or Not

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As seen by a Registered Nurse from the United States, who is now on assignment, it can be hard to adjust to hospital nursing in Saudi Arabia. That is particularly true in the hospital complex that serves the Saudi Royal Family. The very size of this facility is daunting. It is a 1 km straight walk from the front door to the back entrance. You are reading page 4 of Saudi Arabia - Good Idea or Not. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

the comment is much appreciated. as you may have noticed the article received a little flac. have you been to or are you thinking about going to s.a.?

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Wow, what a bunch of critics. Thos who ironically say they know soooo much about the culture in SA and yet they say they have never been there??:twocents: They have no problem throwing 43RN20 under the bus, someone who has been there and has expereinced the culture up front and personal, not just heresay from relatives who are comfy with the lifestyle. I have met many people from other cultures who are happy with thier way of life, and so be it, they do not know any other way of life. They may be uncomforatable with our lifestyle and they have a right to that opinion. We as Americans and other natives do know another way of life, that is called freedom? Are you critics aware of this?:bowingpur Women have rights here, just incase you did not know. I feel 43RN20:nurse: wrote an excellent article that was very informative for anyone wanting to go to SA. She listed PROS and cons and she did not bash any religion. She stated subj. & object. opinions based on her experience, cause here in America we are permitted to do that. Based on what she wrote, as an American I would know to research the religion and culture prior to going there, and that was her teching us to give respect to the natives of SA. I found interest in possibly working there for a year, based on what she said. I would know what to exspect if I worked there, based on what she said. Hmmmm, sounds like I understood the pros and cons of what she said instead of interpreting it and "judging" her, which is what you all criticized her harshly for doing. I guess it is ok for you and not her?:nono: It is a common fact that Women have no right there and must be coverd head to toe. Moonlight jewels, why else do you think women have to sit in the back of the bus, remain quiet w/ thier head down and other cruel treatments their ladies are subjected to?? Aslo you criticized RN20 but did not support your criticism with WHY her statement were misgiving and false??:down:

Next,based on a research experience my entire RN clas had to partake in, each country upholds a different version of what that religion means to them. the 6 in my group were chosen to study Muslims based in Egypt/Africa which followed a completely different belief syst. than other Muslim groups. A Christan in CO might follow anextreme version of the bible with a NC Christian following a conservative version. 43RN20 was stating what she learned of the group based out of SA. I did not hear, see, or get the impression that she was judging ALL Muslims, Islams, Christians... (DojahRN)And I have yet to treat or see an Arab treated in my state, who had an "entourage" with them and was able to "call the shots" In this country we do not tolerate disrespect of Nurses just because they have a vagina, and if you choose to not follow Dr's protocols, you can see your self out of the Hospital.:yeah: And thank God & American laws for that. I am greatful the SA royals prefer us, tat states something about the care we give. I hold myself to a high standard of patient care, and I dont think RN20 was trying to say we should treat SA's like crap. Again, 43RN20, thanks for the insight:nurse:

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its an informative article for those nurses who r curious and want to work in the middle east,i myself worked for 8 years in saudi arabia my working experienced with the saudi nurses even saudi patients and other nationality i can say that i have a gud relation with them, in my own opinion the thing that you should always remember when you are going to other countries like middle east you have to know and learn their culture and follow their law and as long as you know that you will not be in trouble.

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Hi,

I think Sultanate of Oman is much more safe then Saudi or UAE, from my own experience.

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I had a friend whose husband had to fulfill a foreign assignment for his accounting firm. She said as long as they were on the compound for "the foreigners", they were fine. Trips off the compound were few and basically, she was afraid when she was away. She had Saudi bodyguards from whom she learned much and they seemed to like her. She was very outspoken and didn't mince words with her bodyguards - they got a lot of advice (male-female relationships) from her. Her Bible was smuggled in, by the way. They did not seem to tolerate anything other than their belief system.

She left the day the war started. Bombs had just started to drop when her flight was airborne. She said that Saudi was the last place on earth she'd go to. Mind you, this is her opinion and hers only.

Money is not worth giving up my freedoms, especially of expression, where/when I go and my religious freedom.

Just my 2 cents.

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So where would I fall in being an American citizen AND an African American...I guess I shouldn't keep my hopes up. Thank you for the article.

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Leon1984 - I know what you mean - which would present more of a problem - being a woman or African American in SA, based on the reports of others. Just remember, if you are interested in travel nursing, there are lots of places in which being an American trained nurse is going to be to your advantage. And what an experience! As for me, though I am white, I would think I wouldn't be able to deal with accepting all the things I wouldn't be able to do in Saudia Arabia - Come to think of it, I don't know if I would even make it out of the airport. Wherever you go, just remember to do your research. Talking to nurses on allnurses.com is great. Another thing - I am reading this book "The Geography of Bliss" - a journalist travels to several countries, looking at which one is a happy place, or an unhappy place - Somebody did a research project to produce a list of countries in order of happiness. I would love to work in the happy ones, to be sure! Good luck in your travels!

Diahni

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For 4 years of working in KSA particularly in Jeddah,i agree with the content of this article.Working in one of the most highly paid private hospital and most of our patients are member of the royal family,as experienced it is really hard for our part as health care provider.Because,even if you plan for care for that day,if the patient or relative is not covenient with this,you dont have the choice but to follow them, otherwise,you'll find yourself in front of your supervisor or medical director asking you for incident report.But,as the years gone by i slowly understand their culture,as a health care provider it is very important to value others culture especially in providing care to be more effective.Some of them knows how to appreciate you in a simple way,like by giving a pieces of chocolates and its very foul for them not accept it.They have kind heart in a way,just some of them dont know how to express it....

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the rate of pay is dependent on many variables: 1)nationality, 2)agency you work for, 3)specialty area, 4)shift, 5)facility. 6)length of the assignment. the pay is often less if you contract directly with the facility.

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personally, i don't see that the money is all that great in saudi arabia.

safety would have to be a concern, unless you never left the compound or were escorted everywhere you went. for what it pays (50k tax free)... i already earn well in excess of that here after taxes.

not worth it to me.

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traumahawk,

I'm with you! If somebody went to work in SA, I'd think it would be for the adventure, or to write a book about it. I'd be afraid of Sharia, which owes nothing to international law.

Diahni

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