San Francisco Pay for a New Grade

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if i was a new grad working overtime such as 16 hours everyday for a whole year including holidays how much would i expect to get in a year?

smile123

smile123

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if i was a new grad working overtime such as 16 hours everyday for a whole year including holidays how much would i expect to get in a year?

You need to be a lot more specific. The normal shifts are usually 12 hour or 8 hour shifts; they can range from full time (3 - 12's or 5 - 8's) to part time (any variant). Occasionally, you might be asked to stay on for an additional 4 hours, but I have not heard of pulling a double 8 hour shift back to back, especialy for a new grad.

It also depends WHERE you are working. Hospitals tend to pay higher than private doctor offices or clinics. If you are working in a hospital, it also depends if the RNs are part of a union. As a new grad, you typically will not be given any overtime to start out. They tend to put you on an orientation schedule where you shadow an experienced nurse; this can last 6 to 12 weeks, again depending on the specialty and facility. It's best if you ask HR for the pay rate, differentials, overtime pay, etc.

Hope that helps.

Reno1978, BSN, RN

Specializes in SRNA. Has 6 years experience. 1,133 Posts

As a new grad, you typically will not be given any overtime to start out.

I toured UCSF and was told nurses aren't given many opportunities for overtime since they are well staffed. I'm not sure if this is typical of many hospitals around there, but may be something you should ask about if you're looking for regular overtime.

YOUNGRN23

YOUNGRN23

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i wanna possibly hit up the 300k's

MA Nurse

MA Nurse

Specializes in NICU, Telephone Triage. 676 Posts

i wanna possibly hit up the 300k's

Are you joking? You will burned out, if you could actually work that much. are you talking about bedside nursing? In my 18 years as a nurse, I have only heard of one nurse who made a little over $100K in the Bay Area.

Has anyone else here ever heard of a bedside RN making $300K? Especially a new grad?

Sounds like you're in it for the money?

YOUNGRN23

YOUNGRN23

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money is what drives me, yes, but i am getting paid to help others

it's not like im selling drugs

if u worked for $50 an hour for 16 hour shifts everday for 7 days a week in every month of a whole year you would make $268,800 right?

i mean if theres a nursing shortage, wouldn't they allow u to work overtime?

Michellex1013

Michellex1013

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Hi,

As someone who also enjoys money, I think I can tell you your expectations are too high. 1. if you are able to work that much over time, you are working a place with low staffing, and therefore you will be overworked anyway. 2. If your conditions aren't that bad, there won't be that much need for overtime 3. Overtime is usually allowed AFTER you are oriented (3 months) and usually units have cutoffs on how many days in a row you can work. They won't let you work everyday. I don't care how short they are. 4. I would not want you to be my nurse if you worked more than 48 hours a week. I can tell you I would refuse to have you as my or my families nurse if I knew you had worked more than that. It's easy to tell when your nurse is disorganized, looks tired, and is irritable, oh, and when you are seen there EVERYDAY. (yes I know nurses who work 12 hours a week can be like this too, but I think my point is easily understood) 4. Unless you work 7 -16's NOW you aren't going to want to do it when you graduate. Money is nice but it won't turn you into a work-a-holic.

If you have a desire to make 300K a year (which is 32K higher than 268K), I would continue your education and aim to become CEO or COO. You just won't make that much as a staff nurse.

oh and your math is incorrect. $50/hr for 16 hour days 7 days a week for a whole year (365) is 292K.

Good luck,

Michelle

fergus51

fergus51

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You will never be able to work that much. If you're counting on that amount of money, you are going to be very dissapointed. I don't know where on earth you plan on working that will pay a new grad $50 an hour anyways and there is no way you'd be allowed to work that many hours in a week.

smile123

smile123

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You will never be able to work that much. If you're counting on that amount of money, you are going to be very dissapointed. I don't know where on earth you plan on working that will pay a new grad $50 an hour anyways and there is no way you'd be allowed to work that many hours in a week.

I agree with fergus51 and michellex1013. You would not last working that many days a week, 16 hours a day. Plus, there are strict labor laws, especially if your hospital is part of union, that prohibit nurses from working that many hours. It is unsafe for the patients and for you. Nursing, you will find, is extremely stressful as a new grad. You are dealing with patients lives. Safety is key.

Let's figure realistically what a NEW grad could make in the first year:

Say you work at UCSF; the starting rate is $42.10/hr and you are hired to work 3 days a week (that's considered full time from a benefit standpoint). BTW, this is all public info at the UCSF website.

For the first 6 months: (assume you take 2 weeks vacation a year)

$42.10/hr x 3 days/wk x 12 hrs/day = $1515.60/wk x 50 weeks = $75780 (base)

Then you are usually working nights every other month (with a 16% differential)

so add:

$1515.60/wk x 16% (night diff) x 25 weeks = 6062.40 (nights)

You also work every other weekend (5% diferential):

$42.10/hr x 2 days/wk x 12 hrs/day x .05 differential x 25 weeks = $1263

Base: $75780

Nights: 6062

W/end: 1263

Total: $83105/yr (working 3 days/wk 12 hours/day)

But at UCSF, after 6 months you bump up to the next pay grade as a clinical nurse II, which is currently $44.21 or roughly a 5% increase. So take 1/2 the salary listed above and add a 5% increase as a clinical nurse II:

$83105/2 (6 month worth) x 1.05 = 43630 (for 2nd 6 months)

$83105/2 (1st 6 months) = 41553 (for 1st 6 months)

Total annual salary = $85183 (1st year at a new grad)

Of course, you need to take out money for taxes, etc. so you take home will be less, but that's the general idea. If you go to the UCSF benefits site and look at the wage categories, they divide it out this way:

CN I $42.10/hr, $7326/mo, $87912/yr

CN II $44.21/hr, $7692/mo, $93304/yr

I don't know how they calculate it, but you get the general idea. As a new grad, you start on orientation and will not be working any extra shifts when you have a preceptor (6 to 12 weeks, depending on the program). They don't pay for any overtime during that time either. After you have a year of nursing experience, you can apply to work at another hospital and take on a few per diem shifts (which are at a higher rate, but have no benefits). However, your original idea of making over 300K in the first year as a new grad is completely unrealistic. Maybe you need to be in a different field. Good luck.

YOUNGRN23

YOUNGRN23

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so after the first year, working per diem also at another hospital in san francisco that pays up to $75 an hour

could i make near 300k?

my aunt's dumbass told me i could make $900 a day in san diego if i wanted to work overtime!

youknowho

youknowho

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Can someone say TROLL?:troll:

smile123

smile123

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Can someone say TROLL?:troll:

I believe you are right. The poster only wanted to incite controversy. Thanks for pointing that one.

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