Saint Vincent Catholic Medical Centers School of Nursing - Queens

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Anyone accepted for the Fall 2008 semester? I just got my acceptance letter!!! Yay!!! :) :yeah:

Hi everyone! I was wondering if anyone can tell me if they have night classes?

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yes they do, for the spring semester only.

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I currently go to SPSON in SI, its tough people, not to be intimidating but its no joke but for info about addmissions is you have to have over 2.5 GPA and if you took AP 1 AND 2 they wont transfer it unless you took it in consecutive semesters.. They are currently changing the addmisions test instead of 1 test there is going to be 2 tests and now another math test or something who knows these days.. Honestly with the change of name and move to another loacation from Bailey to South Ave.. everything is ass backwards right now

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What is their deadline for fall 2010?

Which classes they are looking for b4 register?

What is their requirements?

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I'm not sure of the deadline for Fall 2010, but when I inquired about the application for Fall 2010 I was told that packets would be sent out after the holiday, so I'm assuming the application should be available soon.

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Recently started to study for the exam and math isnt really my strong point so I am getting very nervous about this section on the test. What is a passing grade for ST. Paul's for the DET? Is the DET weighed more then your transcript, interview and essay to get into the school? Do you only get an interview if you pass the DET or is it a combination of everything? Just wondering if everything is weighed or if one is more then the other. Sorry for all f the questions, just very curious.

Thanks!:D

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Specializes in Surgical Tech for Labor and Delivery.

Alright guys here goes...as far as prerequisites for admission..there are none. Basically whatever you need they will provide. You can transfer general education courses as long as they are passing grades. If you don't have any credits as I did, no problem. They are very strict though when it comes to grades. When it comes to their nursing courses, anything less than an 80 is considered failing for them...quizzes included. Anything not nursing like psychology, english, and anatomy...passing is 70. You must maintain a GPA of at least 2.5 in order to be ok in the program. Can only fail 2 nursing courses...anything more than that..you're out of the program. If your GPA falls between 2.3 and 2.49...you're on academic probation. Below 2.3...you're out as well. No questions asked..no second opportunity. Even if your GPA is 2.29...nope. They take their program seriously.

When it comes to the admission process...the DET counts first and foremost. If you don't pass, they don't even consider you. No interview or anything. If you've been called in for interview, your chances are good. They are usually pretty quick on letting everyone know right away about passing. If you haven't heard anything in a week...give them a call.

I was told by them that the deadline for the fall 2010 semester is in March but not sure of what date exactly so those still interested...give them a call. They only admit two classes a year...the day program gets admitted in the fall and the evening program in the spring.

Hope this helps some of you. If anyone has questions feel free to post...i'll try to get back to you as soon as possible. Semester is starting again so will be doing plenty of studying. Hope to see some of you there this semester. I myself was a day student but having to take some classes in the evening so maybe I'll catch some of you around. Good luck everyone. :nurse:

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Hi everyone...I don't mean upset anyone but I just found out some information that I think you all should know. I went down to the school today to get an application and one of the questions I asked was if they were certified by the NLN. I assumed they were but I just wanted to make sure and the guy told me they were not but they were certified by the New York Regents Association which is high up there in credentials.

This made me feel alittle uncomfortable so I called the New York State Nurses Association (518) 782-9400 in case anyone wants to verify what I am saying is correct and after being transferred 100 times I finally got the correct department and told the lady that I was interesting in St. Pauls but they were not NLN certified and what does that mean.

She told me that being they are certified by the New York Regents that means they are an accredited school in New YOrk, however the NLN is the national nursing league so if I ever wanted to work outside of New York, or be a travel nurse I probably would not be able to....that didnt bother me much because I'm not leaving New York ever, however the part that bothered me is she asked me what type of degree I was going for.

I told her I was going for an Associates in Nursing degree and when I graduate I was planning on working then eventually returning to school to obtain my bachelors, and she told me that many schools might not allow me to go from an associates to a bachelors because the school is not NLN certified. She said getting an associates degree from a school that is not nln certified then going back to school to get the bachelors degree will be a big problem at many schools because they will only recognize associate degrees from an nln certified school.

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Without meaning to sound harsh, you really ought to do some research before posting inflammatory statements that may cause already stressed out nursing students, or those wishing to attend St.Paul's undue stress.

The matter regarding both St. Paul's schools (Staten Island and Queens) accredditation (or lack thereof) by the NLN has been addressed elsewhere in this group. A simple search would have revealed this and the answers to your questions.

First of all, the NLNAC is but one of several self-regulating bodies accrediting schools of nursing. You can find others here: http://noedb.org/library/nursing-education/guide-to-nursing-school-accreditation

Self regulating means just that, there is no mandatory requirement that a nursing program be approved by the NLNAC or any other body. While it does enhance a nursing program's image, and speaks (perhaps) to school's standards, it is in no way the be and end all.

The Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE) accredits college based nursing programs, including one of the finest in NYC, Hunter-Bellevue (who by the way is NOT accredited by the NLNAC, so are you saying their grads aren't going to be hired out of state? I don't think so).

With all due respect you spoke to someone in whatever department of NYS government who probably knows as much about the nurse hiring practices both within NYS and out, as I do about flying a jet airplane.

Obtaining NLNAC accreditation is a long and expensive process, and amoung the criteria examined is how the nursing program's graduate nurses preform on the NCLEX and as RNs, since both St.Paul's programs are under new ownership, that historical data simply is not available yet. Unlike say the BBB where one pays a fee and slaps a sticker on the front door, one just does not open or purchase a nursing program then apply for NLNAC or any other accreditation. Whatever accreditations the former St. Vincent's of Staten Island and Queens nursing programs had, went with them when the schools were taken over/purchased by new management.

As for working out of state, perhaps some DONs or whomever is doing the hiring of nurses for a particular clinical setting *might* care which nursing program one graduated from, along with GPA an so forth, but they will most care about is if you have a vaild license and your work history as a RN. State's issue nursing licenses and the right for nurses from other states to practice within their borders, and to date have never seen on any application "NLNAC approved schools only".

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I am not putting trying to put the school down in any way believe me, that was not the reason for my post. I went and got an application because I wanted to attend the school. I asked them if they were NLN certified and when they said they were only New York Regent certified only, I just wanted to find out what exactly that meant which is why I called the New York Nurses Association, and in my original post I left the number that I called simply so others could inquire for themselves as well. After being told that it means that upon graduation it means you are certified in New York ONLY (which is what I was told by the nurses association) I just thought others should know because if I was attending a school and someone else knew some information I would want to know as well. I am sure they are a good school, once again I am not trying to put the school down, but I was simply stating what I was told and that information might be useful to others in regards to the school. Correct, I don't know the facts about what NLN certification which is why I made the call and if others have any questions regarding this, I posted the number in my previous post just so they could get information and ask any questions they might have. It would be ashame for someone to spend all that money, get their nursing degree only to find out they might have hardships in the future working out of state or obtaining their BA because the school they went to was not NLN certified. I thank you too for your information because I don't know too much about this stuff and I will continue to look it as well, as I encourage others to do so as well. I hope you are correct with everything you say because I honestly want to attend the school, as it is only minutes from my home, and the other schools that I applied to, Farmingdale and Nassau are extremely competitive to get into which is the reason I am looking into this school to begin with.

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Graduated DEC/09. passed my boards and there was never a problem because the school was not NLN. your NYS lic doesnt say which school you attended. :eek:

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I am not putting trying to put the school down in any way believe me, that was not the reason for my post. I went and got an application because I wanted to attend the school. I asked them if they were NLN certified and when they said they were only New York Regent certified only, I just wanted to find out what exactly that meant which is why I called the New York Nurses Association, and in my original post I left the number that I called simply so others could inquire for themselves as well. After being told that it means that upon graduation it means you are certified in New York ONLY (which is what I was told by the nurses association) I just thought others should know because if I was attending a school and someone else knew some information I would want to know as well. I am sure they are a good school, once again I am not trying to put the school down, but I was simply stating what I was told and that information might be useful to others in regards to the school. Correct, I don't know the facts about what NLN certification which is why I made the call and if others have any questions regarding this, I posted the number in my previous post just so they could get information and ask any questions they might have. It would be ashame for someone to spend all that money, get their nursing degree only to find out they might have hardships in the future working out of state or obtaining their BA because the school they went to was not NLN certified. I thank you too for your information because I don't know too much about this stuff and I will continue to look it as well, as I encourage others to do so as well. I hope you are correct with everything you say because I honestly want to attend the school, as it is only minutes from my home, and the other schools that I applied to, Farmingdale and Nassau are extremely competitive to get into which is the reason I am looking into this school to begin with.

Methinks perhaps the person you spoke with misunderstoond your question, and or you are not reading their response correctly.

In order to sit for the NCLEX one must have graduated from a *state* accredited nursing program, and take the boards after applying for licensure in whatever home state that particular school resides. Once one has passed the boards and obtains a license to practice, one is free to move about to another state and ask that they accept your NYS license.

As previously stated there are several priviate bodies that "approve" nursing programs, and two main one for undergraduates. To believe what you are saying, or were told would put the NLNAC above CCNE, which is not the case at all. Again there are many, many major nursing programs, some of them holding world regard that are NOT accredited by the NLNAC, and their graduates have zero problems moving about the United States, and or finding work.

Yes, some RN to BSN programs, or graduate nursing programs and so forth may favour NLNAC approved, or something similar, nursing program grads, but that has more to do with establishing certain baseline education requirements. Again Hunter-Bellevue's nursing program is not NLNAC accredited, and do not think many graduate nursing programs would turn up their noses at nurses educated at that particular school.

State boards of nursing set the educational requirements for nursing programs, not the NLN or anyone else. States also license and approve all schools of higher education, not a priviate body such as the NLN. While a nursing program with a reputation for producing "bad" nurses would find it's graduates with limited employment choices, that would be true regardless of NLNAC or anyone else's "approval". Indeed the mark of a good nursing program is the amount of graduates who pass the NCLEX first time around.

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