I know it is cynical, uncaring, and abrasive to say these things.... and I would never actually say them. I really do love my job, I just had a day where everything was wrong... I guess I'm just venting. Feel free to add to the list.
1. The world of ER does not revolve around you. There are sick people here, and you aren't one of them.
2. Our definition of sick is not your definition of sick. If a member of the ER staff says that someone is sick, it means that they are in the process of DYING. They have had a massive stroke, are bleeding out, having a heart attack, or shot. We don't consider a tooth injury sick. Painful, yes. Sick, no.
2. At any given time, one nurse has four patients. One doctor has up to 15. There is a law (similar to Murphy's) in the ER. If you have four patients:
3. Physicians and nurses are not waiters. We are not customer service representatives. This is not McDonalds, and you very well may NOT have it your way. Our job is to save your life, or at least make you feel better. If you want a pillow, two blankets, the lights dimmed, and the TV on channel 14, go to the Ramada.
4. If you have one of the three, go to your own doctor in the morning:
5. If your child has a fever, you had better give him tylenol before coming in. Do NOT let the fever remain high just so I will believe the child has a fever. Do you want your child to have a seizure? Do you?
6. We have priorities. We understand that you have been waiting for two hours in the waiting room. If you don't want to wait, make an appointment with a doctor. The little old lady that just walked in looking OK to you is probably having a massive heart attack. That's why she goes first.
7. Do not ask us how long it will be. We don't know. I don't know what's coming through my door 30 seconds from now... so I surely don't know when you'll be getting a room upstairs.
8. We are not for primary care. Get a family doctor, and go see them.
9. If you have diabetes and do not control it, you are committing slow suicide.
10. We know how many times you've been to an ER. We can usually tell if you are faking it on the first 5 seconds of talking to you. Do not lie to us. If you lie about one thing, we will assume you are lying about everything. You don't want that.
11. If you are well enough to complain about the wait, you are well enough to go home.
12. If your mother is a patient and we ask her a question, let her answer it.
13. If you see someone pushing a big cart down the hall at full speed and you hear bells going off.... do not ask for a cup of coffee. Someone is dying, you inconsiderate %#@^. In the ER, bells don't ring for nothing. Sit down, shut up, and let us work.
14. If you have any sort of stomach pain and you ask for something to eat, you are not that sick.
15. If you can complain about the blood pressure cuff being too tight, or the IV needle hurting, you are not in that much pain.
16. If you want to get something, be nice. I will go out of my way to tick off rude people.
17. Do not talk badly about the other members of staff I work with. The doctor that you hate? I work with him every day, and I know that he knows what he is doing. I trust him a lot more than I trust you. I am not here to be your friend, and neither is he. I will tell him what you said, and we will laugh about it. If you want a buddy, go somewhere else.
18. Every time I ask you a question, I learn more about what is wrong with you. I don't care if I ask you what day it is four different times. Each time I ask, it is for a reason. Just answer the questions, regardless of if you have answered them before.
19. Do not utter the words "It's in my chart." I don't have your chart, and I don't have the time to call and get it. Just tell me.
20. Do not bring your entire posse with you. One person at the bedside is all you need. It is really difficult to get around seven people in the event that you are really sick.
OMG, I am laughing with tears running down my face. Different country, exact same thoughts !!!!
I haven't read through all the replies yet, but trust me I will, just to have a good laugh, but one thing we say in our department (and had posted till admin took it down) was
Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine. (for those patients that need the EMERGENCY med refil or the EMERGENCY cold "cure" etc.)
I understand what you are saying, and if you told my post as telling you that you are a horrible person, then maybe I did not write how I meant to write. I know that there are people who are not sick in your eyes, and there are people who are not sick at all that come to the ER, but the fact is that regardless you have to treat them. I am not speaking about the nurses who treat every patient the same way... As I said before I have been to many hospitals in my area and many of the nurses are rude and nasty. I'm going into this field I know that a lot of times it's because they are over worked and under paid, but that is not the patients fault. My view is that maybe if nurses were more polite and kind to their patients maybe there would be more nurses in the field. I think that a lot of the nursing shortage is because people see how nurses act towards them, and they do not want to turn into that. The reason I am becoming a nurse is because I want to help people, I want to care for people, and I want to make a difference, I never would have become a nurse though if I had not met some of the nurses at one of the local hospitals where they strive to be polite and happy. It's a proven fact that when your nice, happy, and polite to people they get better faster, so for the people who sound angry and mean in their posts maybe you should rethink how you act.ER nurses take a lot of crap, everyone knows this, and it takes a special person to be an ER nurse, you guys come on here and say some of the most hurtful and rude things and make me want to rethink my career choice... Think about the effect of your words to others... they do make a difference.
NurseErica- I'm glad that your one of the nice nurses out there, and I did not mean to offend you, but there are people on here that say things that should probably not be seen by everyone. When I'm a patient in the ER I try to be calm and easy going also, I know what emergency means, I've been trained to know what it means as have you. The people that come in thinking they are dying because they have a bad stomach ache haven't been trained to know what an emergency is and to them, they really do think it's an emergency. It's tough when your job has to revolve around something that can be someones opinion.
As for the fact that emergency rooms are for emergencies, this is true, I know that, but where I live at 2 in the morning when you have a severe migraine where are you suppose to go? We don't have urgent care facilities, the only option is the emergency room.
I think it's really unfair for you to place judgement on a nurse's post or vent in this thread. Unless you have walked in our shoes, see what obviously all of us see throughout ERs across the WORLD....and see that we tend to agree with the venting posts here and even add our own....what makes you think it's appropriate to comment at all? (Even though I know this is an open forum)...Seriously.....why do you think you righteous indignation towards us is appropriate?
I am completely aware that there are people that are in much more pain than I am, and are much sicker than me.But when I come in at 5 in the morning with migraines, partial blindness, and excessive vomiting, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE bring a bedpan before you make me sit in there until 9 in the morning. Don't make me try to flag you down without opening my mouth (to avoid YOU having to clean up) just to have a place to puke. Please. Also, if I've been vomiting for 5 hours straight, offer me a drink or SOMETHING. So that way, when I just give up and leave after hours of excruciating pain with no relief, I don't collapse from dehydration.
I'm just pretty sure my hospital is completely understaffed. But yeah... I'm still bitter about that one. So much so, that every time that happens now, I refuse to even go to the ER.
Are you unable to ambulate yourself to the bathroom, why would you need a bedpan? Don't "flag" me down please as that is what the call light is for. Yelling to me as I pass your room irritates me to no end.....Hello...I walked passed because I had something more important to do at the time....again put your call light on. We do not give you something to drink while you are actively vomiting, as that would be a no no......If you "give up" and leave...normally means you shouldn't have come anyway. So, next time you have a migraine, perhaps staying home in your own comfy cozy bed, and take the meds your primary doctor gave you to treat your migraines instead of coming to the ER is a better idea. Vomiting for 5 hours is not an emergency nor is it excessive. I've had the flu before and vomited for a couple of days....that's many more hours than your 5 hours......Seriously, I could go on and on here but what really got me was the please, please, please bedpan comment...hahhahahahaa...are you paralyzed too with that migraine?
HaHaHa! Some of this is so funny! I had read through this thread when it initially was started (and had a good laugh then), but when I saw there was new posts I re-read it. I thought since everyone was talking about migranes and vomiting I would add my story. I will say now that it is your human right to look away if you are against this er nursing vent!
I get like one migrane a year, I have never been to an MD for them, because I am trained to know that they are harmless, drugs don't help them, nothing but sleep. Surely doesn't need a neurologist, but I guess they get pretty rich on these guys! Bright lights make them so much worse, and bad odors about kill me. Well last Tues I had one right at the beginning of one of my routine 16 hour shifts. It was bad. My LOL with the awful GI bleed( blown varicies)-well the smell was awful, not to mention the drunk guy that had puked and deficated all over himself right before we tubed him. The bright lights glaring on the gory bloody MVC guy who got brain matter on my shoes was bothering my eyes so much (these things usually don't phase me as you know it is a normal shift at level1 centers). I kept having to stop and puke in the biohazards bins or trash cans-and all the while I never missed a beat-didn't even contaminate a sterile field or miss an IV stick. Boy was I ever glad to finish my shift and go home to my nice comfy bed, never even popped an excedrin, and before I went to bed I WALKED myself to the bathroom and pottied all by myself-I think it was the first time of the night. It is so amazing what some people constitute as an emergency isn't it? It blows me away when students or just wannabes rag on us-I wish they could shadow me for a day! I was so sick I didn't even want to eat, which is weird because according to some of the posters-and some of my patients it is a requirment to eat more when you are vomiting (helps it to continue is what I always thought?!?) I am so amazing I even put on a smile and treated all of the FF drug seekers, sore throats (99 times out of a 100 these are viral (drink more!!), bandaide boo-boos, ect with the care I would want my grandma to recieve. Also had a co-worker a few months ago who didn't look so hot, we all kept telling her she needed to be seen (was white as a ghost and dizzy). She refused and finished her shift, but then left and went to her PCP (that's the doctor you are supposed to see when you have a non-emergent medical problem), H&H was 25 and 6.8! I know our threads are open to everyone, but the point of them are so that we have a place to defuse- if you can add something funny, interesting, amazing, or describe a cool trauma, you are in the right place. If not please go to a place where you can share your er sob story, and discuss the horrid, cruel er nurses-I'm sure there are a lot of them-you would be welcome there! And to the happy er nurses please keep these threads coming-could never have told two sets of parents on christmas eve that their child died, nor could I have ever listen to the three year old asking for her father for an hour after he died- you guys and the one's we save keep me going!!
[My view is that maybe if nurses were more polite and kind to their patients maybe there would be more nurses in the field. I think that a lot of the nursing shortage is because people see how nurses act toward them, and they do not want to turn into that. ]
The reason there aren't more nurses is because there aren't enough instructors to teach them in nursing schools. Last I checked, there were waiting lists to get in. Another reason is that many nurses are leaving and completely changing careers due to issues such as unsafe assignments, ridiculous paperwork/regulations & negative treatment BY annoying patients, such as that mentioned in this thread.
Do not call to see how busy we are before deciding to come--that means you aren't sick
In our small hospital, people would call ER to find out who the doctor in ER was before coming in. Others would go to the information desk and ask who the ER doc was before signing in. If they didn't like the doctor, they'd say, "I'll wait for morning and see my own doctor" and walk out.
In our small hospital, people would call ER to find out who the doctor in ER was before coming in. Others would go to the information desk and ask who the ER doc was before signing in. If they didn't like the doctor, they'd say, "I'll wait for morning and see my own doctor" and walk out.
to bad you cant just say the less favored docs when it is the greatest favored ones are on to weed out these people
HaHaHa! Some of this is so funny! I had read through this thread when it initially was started (and had a good laugh then), but when I saw there was new posts I re-read it. I thought since everyone was talking about migranes and vomiting I would add my story. I will say now that it is your human right to look away if you are against this er nursing vent!I get like one migrane a year, I have never been to an MD for them, because I am trained to know that they are harmless, drugs don't help them, nothing but sleep. Surely doesn't need a neurologist, but I guess they get pretty rich on these guys! Bright lights make them so much worse, and bad odors about kill me. Well last Tues I had one right at the beginning of one of my routine 16 hour shifts. It was bad. My LOL with the awful GI bleed( blown varicies)-well the smell was awful, not to mention the drunk guy that had puked and deficated all over himself right before we tubed him. The bright lights glaring on the gory bloody MVC guy who got brain matter on my shoes was bothering my eyes so much (these things usually don't phase me as you know it is a normal shift at level1 centers). I kept having to stop and puke in the biohazards bins or trash cans-and all the while I never missed a beat-didn't even contaminate a sterile field or miss an IV stick. Boy was I ever glad to finish my shift and go home to my nice comfy bed, never even popped an excedrin, and before I went to bed I WALKED myself to the bathroom and pottied all by myself-I think it was the first time of the night. It is so amazing what some people constitute as an emergency isn't it? It blows me away when students or just wannabes rag on us-I wish they could shadow me for a day! I was so sick I didn't even want to eat, which is weird because according to some of the posters-and some of my patients it is a requirment to eat more when you are vomiting (helps it to continue is what I always thought?!?) I am so amazing I even put on a smile and treated all of the FF drug seekers, sore throats (99 times out of a 100 these are viral (drink more!!), bandaide boo-boos, ect with the care I would want my grandma to recieve. Also had a co-worker a few months ago who didn't look so hot, we all kept telling her she needed to be seen (was white as a ghost and dizzy). She refused and finished her shift, but then left and went to her PCP (that's the doctor you are supposed to see when you have a non-emergent medical problem), H&H was 25 and 6.8! I know our threads are open to everyone, but the point of them are so that we have a place to defuse- if you can add something funny, interesting, amazing, or describe a cool trauma, you are in the right place. If not please go to a place where you can share your er sob story, and discuss the horrid, cruel er nurses-I'm sure there are a lot of them-you would be welcome there! And to the happy er nurses please keep these threads coming-could never have told two sets of parents on christmas eve that their child died, nor could I have ever listen to the three year old asking for her father for an hour after he died- you guys and the one's we save keep me going!!
That was one of the best posts I've ever read, and would like to thankyou...
Today I resolved to be a happy, shiney, wonderful triage nurse as that was where I was scheduled. Side note: Why weren't people HOME watching all the football on New Years Day?....we were really really busy. Anyway, about half way through the shift I get this older gentlemen trached, bloody evidence on the trach gauze with complaints of fever, 2 days post chemotherapy and history of throat CA. He's saturating at 100% on room air, denies SOB, or pain.... vitals are w/i N limits.
I essentially found him a room before others who arrived before him........ waiting to go back...All of which had an ESI of 3. But....I just didn't want him exposed to the others. Okay.....So I send someone to quick make the bed up for me of a recent dicharge.
As I'm wheeling him back I begin to recant the policy that has become so "canned" that every triage nurse uses it and we say it nicely. "Our policy is to allow one family member back and then after they are seen by the physician, 2 can go back" " It shouldn't......The daughter cuts me off and says, "We're all going back"....I finished my sentence saying It shouldn't take but 20 minutes and we'll get 2 back"....She says, "We're all going back, come on MOM!" .....I said, "I'm sorry, but our policy states......"
Again she insists all 3 go back....and I nicely repeat the "canned" policy. I use my badge to gain access to the ER and after entering I turn around and see 2 family members following me. I stop and say again.....the "canned policy......nicely.
The daughter states as she is burning a whole through my forehead, " I am his care-taker and this is his wife" I said I'm sorry .....but our policy states......blah blah blah blah blah...sheesh. (Note: I have had to repeat the policy 5 times)
The daughter comes back and leaves her mother....his wife out in triage.
I get him back to the room, explain to him that all of his clothes need to come off except his underwear and socks, and ask him if he needs help. The daughter demands, " Go get his wife like I wanted and she can undress him". By this time I'm am thinking in my head....Damn that Press Ganey.....yet instead, I stood up straight and said..., " I'll send his nurse into help right away" and left the room with my New Year's Resolution to just smile and let "family" of ER patients treat me like crap and just trudge on .....intact. It's amazing how nurses are treated.
It's so hard to do our job. But what's worse is people treating us so rude when you are only trying to do the best you can do and follow policy. Here I was finding her sick father a room really quickly (while 6 others waited).....I mean I could have had him sit in triage just like everyone else, but I felt it better he not be exposed....
and the daughter was so rude to me. I assessed him properly, I was nice and compassionate for his needs yet I get treated so rudely. I later asked about the daughter's attitude throughout her father's care and the nurse told me she continued the attitude with everyone else. This is a perfect example of, no matter what you do, how well you care for someone.....some people are just rude.
I personally want to say to them...Shame on you, I am only trying to help and you are being an orifice....but I don't....outloud anyway.....lol
Happy 2009 to all my fellow ER nurses. I truely believe that no one can understand what I do or how I think unless they have walked in my shoes.
I continue to laugh my butt off with this thread, looking forward to a 2009 full of frustrations and venting, if for no other reason than to provide myself with a good belly laugh.
Happy 2009 to all my fellow ER nurses. I truely believe that no one can understand what I do or how I think unless they have walked in my shoes.I continue to laugh my butt off with this thread, looking forward to a 2009 full of frustrations and venting, if for no other reason than to provide myself with a good belly laugh.
Yeah....Happy 2009 to you as well...........
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This is a bit of thread drift, but here I go:
Sorry about your headaches. And other symptoms.
BUT..... Somehow somebody got it right. You did not have a life threatening problem. Whether it was the triage nurse, a doc, or another nurse, somehow somebody figured out that you did not have something dangerous, diagnosable, and fixable in an er setting.
If the end of your post turned out "It turned out my brain was bleeding", then you would have a great point about a failure in the system. I have seen a brain bleed missed by triage.
In your case they correctly triaged you.
Your situation sucks. Must have been scary to have had that problem. On the other hand, if you had had a cerebral aneurism, you would have been pretty lucky to have gone to an ER with an efective triage system, and greatful for the nurse who put you ahead of the low acuity patient.
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