Hey everyone, my very first post but a long time observer at this forum.
I graduated earlier this year in June with an ASN degree and now looking to work on my BSN, seeing how the job hunt
is going nowhere for me. I tried to apply at San Jose State University here in Ca., but they've put a lock on the Fall 2010 semester. Now I am looking at the University of Phoenix online option. I was wondering if anyone here taken the RN to BSN route at University of Phoenix, either online or on-campus? I know they're approved by the CA BRN, but I want to know how good are the instructors and their curriculum? Basically any information would be helpful at this point. Thanks alot!
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that this thread became a discussion about anecdotal experiences or what my "credentials" are. I didn't know ad hominems attacks were taken seriously here. It only goes to strengthen my argument when all the detractors can muster is "well...are you a nurse?"
I really don't care what any of you do with your money. Go ahead do it. But you're delusional if you think ...now read this carefully, that ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, a person who goes to a brick & mortar university will be more respected than someone who goes to a for profit online university like phoenix. Of course experience and other factors matter. Of course there are people who have gone on in their careers afterwards. The operant phrase here is "all things being equal". If you can't understand that, maybe you belong at U of Phoenix.
You can bask in your denial all you want. Like I said...its your money. Enjoy the koolaid.
You don't need a PhD to realize that a BSN from a brick and mortar university is better regarded by most than one from a for profit online university like U of Phoenix. My educational background is irrelevant to the discussion at hand and can only be used for illogical ad hominem arguments.
You obviously have own opinion on the matter. I guess if I went to a school and someone cast some doubt on my alma mater I would feel the need to defend it. Well then again...I value where my degree(s) come from. But im not going to kid myself and say it is regarded just as highly as one from Yale/Harvard/Princeton. I'm simply warning people that they should take a good hard look at any school and not to kid themselves.
Simply put, it matters where your degree came from, especially if its from an online for-profit "university".
I understand your opinion, but every for PROFIT universities such as Azuza Pacific University, Mt. St. Mary's are very highly regarded, they have CCNE and NLN accreditation just like UOP. UOP is cheaper then those schools. Also UCLA RN to BSN program is also very expensive! Trust me I did the Math, and yet UOP is much more convinient. I also work with with a couple TRAUMA nurses who have thier BSN from UOP and are exellent practiioners. FOR nursing, UOP seems to be a good choice, I personally have not went thier but wouldn't rule it out. I hear great things from people and I work in the Los Angeles area where we see many trauma victims. Maybe for Business or something UOP has a BAD rep, but as far as nursing, I think its OK. I guess though if you are NOT a nurse you would'nt know....
I guess though if you are NOT a nurse you would'nt know....
If you must know I'm a nursing student at a top 10 nursing school. I have 2 prior degrees and am a second career changer. You don't need to have to be a nurse to realize that REPUTATION means something in academia, in the professional world and in nursing. Maybe not 5-10 years down the road, but certainly immediately after graduating. And certainly if its from a place like U of Phoenix.
Here are a list of links after doing a simple google search on U of Phoenix's fraudulent practices for those who are intelligent enough to perform some due diligence.
The university says that its graduation rate, using the federal standard, is 16 percent, which is among the nation’s lowest, according to Department of Education data. But the university has dozens of campuses, and at many, the rate is even lower.
A federal court reinstated a lawsuit accusing the university of fraudulently obtaining hundreds of millions of dollars in financial aid.
“Their business degree is an M.B.A. Lite,” said Henry M. Levin, a professor of higher education at Teachers College at Columbia University. “I’ve looked at their course materials. It’s a very low level of instruction.”
Umm. Ok...does that make you feel bigger now? How old are you, 6? I'm now convinced that you must work of Phoenix.
If you must know I'm a nursing student at a top 10 nursing school. I have 2 prior degrees and am a second career changer. You don't need to have to be a nurse to realize that REPUTATION means something in academia, in the professional world and in nursing. Maybe not 5-10 years down the road, but certainly immediately after graduating. And certainly if its from a place like U of Phoenix.
I am sorry I just have a hard time reading... small letters.... that is the only reason I put it boldly. I applaud you for your choice in becoming a nurse and that you are in the top ten nursing schools. I also noticed you other posts and realized you live in the EAST if I am correct then I can understand you argument. I am just voicing my opinion just like you, no need for any attacks. To me, it just seems working in the medical for over ten years, the school doesn't really matter, its the person. I have worked with BSN, MSN, and ADN nurses, and on the floor, no one care where you went to school. You are right it might get you in the door (sometimes), but your personality and work ethic keeps you their. GOOD luck with your career.
I am sorry I just have a hard time reading... small letters.... that is the only reason I put it boldly. I applaud you for your choice in becoming a nurse and that you are in the top ten nursing schools. I also noticed you other posts and realized you live in the EAST if I am correct then I can understand you argument. I am just voicing my opinion just like you, no need for any attacks. To me, it just seems working in the medical for over ten years, the school doesn't really matter, its the person. I have worked with BSN, MSN, and ADN nurses, and on the floor, no one care where you went to school. You are right it might get you in the door (sometimes), but your personality and work ethic keeps you their. GOOD luck with your career.
I agree with you completely. Thats why I said experience is key and where you went to school won't matter 5-10 yrs down the road.
But the thing is, schools like U of Phoenix is simply put, giving students false hope when they say that their degree is JUST AS GOOD as any other. It is simply not true. It makes me infuriated thinking about how they target people who are most likely not in a high income bracket, single parents and feel desperate.
I just want to make sure people do proper research. A simple search online makes it clear that U of Phoenix is a watered down education at best and a SCAM at worst.
I'm glad I didn't go to a private nursing online school to get my RN. I am lucky to get accepted and graduated to a public community college. Our NCLEX passing rate falls between 85% to 95% on average and that is something to be really proud off. It was very hard. I meant the experience applying to nursing school, hoping to get accepted, competing with hundreds of students trying to get to 50 slots, surviving the program once you're in, waking up at 5am for clinicals, going to clinical lab on your only day off, and test/quizzes almost every week. I give my hat off to all RN's who graduated to a public colleges or university because we all went through a difficult process in getting our degrees and license. Its a difficult road to follow, if you dare.
I understand your opinion, but every for PROFIT universities such as Azuza Pacific University, Mt. St. Mary's are very highly regarded, they have CCNE and NLN accreditation just like UOP. UOP is cheaper then those schools. Also UCLA RN to BSN program is also very expensive! Trust me I did the Math, and yet UOP is much more convinient. I also work with with a couple TRAUMA nurses who have thier BSN from UOP and are exellent practiioners. FOR nursing, UOP seems to be a good choice, I personally have not went thier but wouldn't rule it out. I hear great things from people and I work in the Los Angeles area where we see many trauma victims. Maybe for Business or something UOP has a BAD rep, but as far as nursing, I think its OK. I guess though if you are NOT a nurse you would'nt know....
Azusa Pacific University is NOT a for profit school. They are a non-profit Christian University with a Main campus in Azusa, CA. I got my BS in Business there. It's not for profit, I can assure you that. They have been a School since 1899 and got WASC accreditation in 1964. It's a good school. One of the top Christian Universities in the Nation. They have a GREAT nursing program.
Azusa Pacific University is NOT a for profit school. They are a non-profit Christian University with a Main campus in Azusa, CA. I got my BS in Business there. It's not for profit, I can assure you that. They have been a School since 1899 and got WASC accreditation in 1964. It's a good school. One of the top Christian Universities in the Nation. They have a GREAT nursing program.
but they charge more then UOP per unit??? how is that NON profit?
Many private schools charge more than UoP and they are non-profit. You can go check out their website if you like apu.edu. They are not owned by a corporation or any stock holders; all monies made go back into the school for the benefit of the students, paying professors, faculty, upkeep of campus, etc. USC costs more then UoP, so does Pepperdine, stanford, Columbia, etc. All non-profit private schools. Price per unit does not determine weather a school is non-profit or not. Unlike private Schools, state schools get funding from the state to operate and therefore charge less for tuition. However, in this case when you compare a school like UoP to a traditional brick an mortar, the brick and mortar costs more to operate because they have a large campus to upkeep. APU operates largely on donations from alumni and other donors. When I attended APU, it was $12.5 a semester. Expensive, yes. But, if not from students and other donations, how else does a school operate that is private and has no funding from the state. Everything the school makes is put back into the University and it's students. It is a non-profit.
Here is some information on the University that states they are a Non-profit.
Okay - let's get back to the topic at hand: original poster is looking for folks that have graduated from UofP.
And...yes, I do fit the bill. In my experience, as an RN with 8 years under my belt when I attended UofP, I had absolutely no problems whatsoever continuing my career.
I graduated from UofP's ADN to BSN completion program in 2004, then did an MSN with UofP in management and leadership - graduated 2005, then did a post-MSN adult health CNS from a local college of nursing and graduated in 2006. Have been working as an advanced practice nurse since then.
I'm currently back at the local college of nursing for a peds CNS.
UofP is fully accredited and again, in my experience, have had absolutely no problems getting jobs, advancing my career, etc..
And...nursing is a second career for me also. Been a nurse now 18 years total....
Agrippa
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I'm sorry, I didn't realize that this thread became a discussion about anecdotal experiences or what my "credentials" are. I didn't know ad hominems attacks were taken seriously here. It only goes to strengthen my argument when all the detractors can muster is "well...are you a nurse?"
I really don't care what any of you do with your money. Go ahead do it. But you're delusional if you think ...now read this carefully, that ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, a person who goes to a brick & mortar university will be more respected than someone who goes to a for profit online university like phoenix. Of course experience and other factors matter. Of course there are people who have gone on in their careers afterwards. The operant phrase here is "all things being equal". If you can't understand that, maybe you belong at U of Phoenix.
You can bask in your denial all you want. Like I said...its your money. Enjoy the koolaid.