Hello everyone I passed my boards and I had 2 charges non drug related one in 2016 and one in 2022 the one charge got dropped I was asked to join the ramp program and when finished I can get my license I have a few questions for anyone who was in this program I no this is like an outpatient program and it includes meetings evaluation and drug testing I'm wondering if this is because I'm on medication? They didn't explain why I have to do this evaluation but I did read others peoples comments thay I will have to pay $350-250 dollars for a hair drug test ? And a nails drug test is $150
& I read the urine test is only $60.
do they make you pay this much for these test ? Also dose anyone no if we are sent out for these tests ? Or do I go to a hospital or something? I'm confused on where I attend to ?
if I'm on Medicaid insurance will the program send me to quest or lab corp and maybe my insurance company can pay for it ? im not working right now and I don't. Know how I will be able to afford this program and I really want my nursing licenses. Has anyone just had all urine test done and only had to pay the 50-60$ dollar test ?
also can anyone tell me how this works after I call the number I was provided do I just have an initial interview over the phone then we set up an in person exam or evaluation.
if anyone know anyone or has been through this ramp program can they please answer my few questions please
From my experience, insurance/Medicaid doesn't pay for tests. I've paid all of mine out of pocket.
I didn't do IOP or inpt tx, so I cannot speak on that.
I do pay $65/month towards my program, and $80/month for my weekly group. My hair test was $150, and that's every 3 months with an extra $40 fee for collecting it. My urine runs $45-65 twice a month with a $30 collection fee. My one time PETH was $80 and a $40 collection fee. My addictionologist was $750 for my first appointment, and my follow ups every 3 months is $140. My probation is up aftet 3 years of proven sobriety, along with my case manager's blessing, in December 2026.
Now, you can consult a lawyer, but if you get your license or not is up to the BON. They can probably request certain terms, but if the BON has established regulations, you're going to end up doing the program.
I know the whole money is tight feeling... I've cleaned houses to make the money to pay my fees. It's hard, but I wouldn't give up nursing.
Now, if you lawyer up, you're looking at a retainer, fees, etc. So make sure you ask a ton of questions before you agree to have a lawyer represent you.
Are you in the program in nj ? Also where u a nurse and then had to go into the program or for you to get your license you had to finish the program also is every ones expirenxe the same everyone has to do the 3 hair drug tests and 3 urine tests and get an appointment with an evaluator do they reccomend who you have to see for the evaluation also they don't make you go to like AA meetings that are free ? You have to pay for these meetings I'm winding if everyone's had to go through the same exact process with the same exact testing and evaluations? or is it based on each case ? -another thing is how do people get lawyers for this if the non says I have to complete the program before they give me my license ?
one last thing Also if I'm on medications I had some questions about them but they are a little more personal is
there anyway you can email me and I can talk to you in private by chance ? I don't see a private chat area to send you a personal message mine is
Ashleyg2980@ y a h o o if you can help me out I would really appreciate it
I wish I had talked to lawyer before signing up with PHNP which is the PA program. Likely would have only had to pay my lawyer to represent me versus signing my life away for 5 years to the program. At that time I didn't know I had a choice because the letter and forms you get make it sound like you don't but you do. All I am saying is just a consult with a lawyer experienced that is experienced in working with the Board will not hurt otherwise be prepared to do all of the above that is mentioned in the previous post
Hey so I see people talking about getting lawyers before signing up to the program but the non told me I have to do the program before giving me my license
what would a lawyer do for me if I hired one fight against me not doing the program ? I'm confused with this one
@ashley1879 I've been a nurse 13 years when life happened. Im from GA, every state does things differently, and the BON makes their decisions on their policies, evidence, etc.
I wish I had talked to lawyer before signing up with PHNP which is the PA program. Likely would have only had to pay my lawyer to represent me versus signing my life away for 5 years to the program. At that time I didn't know I had a choice because the letter and forms you get make it sound like you don't but you do. All I am saying is just a consult with a lawyer experienced that is experienced in working with the Board will not hurt otherwise be prepared to do all of the above that is mentioned in the previous post
Yeah but my email said I have to get evaluated and if everything goes well they will send the BON my información an I can get my license..
They made it sound like it was a one time thing if everything went well like 1 evaluation 1 drug test and yeah that's all they never said anything about how long I guess they just wasn't to see if I am able to practice safe but I'm still not sure why they are making me do this in the first place is it because I had an arrest on my record and it got dropped it was not drug or alcohol related so I'm confused dose every one have to go through the same process like every one has to do 3-5 years with hair drug test every 3 months and urine every 3 weeks ?
if someone can please let me know that would be helpful
Yeah but my email said I have to get evaluated and if everything goes well they will send the BON my información an I can get my license..
They made it sound like it was a one time thing if everything went well like 1 evaluation 1 drug test and yeah that's all they never said anything about how long I guess they just wasn't to see if I am able to practice safe but I'm still not sure why they are making me do this in the first place is it because I had an arrest on my record and it got dropped it was not drug or alcohol related so I'm confused dose every one have to go through the same process like every one has to do 3-5 years with hair drug test every 3 months and urine every 3 weeks ?
if someone can please let me know that would be helpful
What kind of charge if it was not drug or alcohol related
In 2016 I got a simple assault with my ex gf and we had a fight and then that was dropped and n than I got another charge it was a disorderly conduct or I think it was as called disorderly persons offense in 2022 I got upset with the police officer because he was trying to say I was selling drugs because I didn't have my medications in a prescription bottle I had them in a pill dispenser Nikki/ organizer and I was in a bad area of town when this whole thing happened... the whole town itself is not a good area so I I had to. Take it to court to show that it was okay for these medications to be in my possession another hard thing is is that technically the whole town I love mso I'm not sure if I'm being sent to ramp because of my past charges or because of my prescription medication that I was prescribed my big question is when I go to get evaluated I do not have a drug or alcohol problem but if I say I take prescription medication will they increase my time at ramp and now if I don't tell them I take any prescription medication is it true they request the last 3 years of medication print out from my pharmacy isn't this like hippa or is it required that we give a print out of our medication history?
If I say I take prescription controlled medication.. will they increase my time on ramp and if I don't say I take any medication can I get I trouble ? Please let me know thanks
I do not suggest lying because if/when you are caught you're in for 5 years. They will do a hair sample to look back 6 months so they will find your prescription meds there. What meds are they? I don't know about the pharmacy thing, I have never heard of that before. Did you just sit for the NCLEX and RAMP got involved due to your background check?
In 2016 I got a simple assault with my ex gf and we had a fight and then that was dropped and n than I got another charge it was a disorderly conduct or I think it was as called disorderly persons offense in 2022 I got upset with the police officer because he was trying to say I was selling drugs because I didn't have my medications in a prescription bottle I had them in a pill dispenser Nikki/ organizer and I was in a bad area of town when this whole thing happened... the whole town itself is not a good area so I I had to. Take it to court to show that it was okay for these medications to be in my possession another hard thing is is that technically the whole town I love mso I'm not sure if I'm being sent to ramp because of my past charges or because of my prescription medication that I was prescribed my big question is when I go to get evaluated I do not have a drug or alcohol problem but if I say I take prescription medication will they increase my time at ramp and now if I don't tell them I take any prescription medication is it true they request the last 3 years of medication print out from my pharmacy isn't this like hippa or is it required that we give a print out of our medication history?
If I say I take prescription controlled medication.. will they increase my time on ramp and if I don't say I take any medication can I get I trouble ? Please let me know thanks
They can see any controlled substances you've been prescribed. Hair tests go back 3 months. I'd be honest because they can find all.of this out with little effort.
@KathyMomRN I'm percribed pain medication and I passed my boards a while ago.. they didn't tell me why I have to do ramp but I heard a girl told them she was on antidepressants and anxiety medicine and they made her to an automatic 5 years so that's why if I tell them I take pain medication by hippa do I have to tell them and aren't they breaking hippa law by getting my prescription records ? Its prescribed to me but I'm not trying to add more time and I can just stop taking my pain medication all together before I start ramp.
@Healer555 isn't that breaking hippa though looking at my past perscription print out ?
so I do not have a drug or alcohol problem so I'm guessing they are making me do the program because of my past charges or because I take perscriotion pain meds there were 2 charges one was dropped that was with a fight with my ex girlfriend and the second charge was bcuz inhad pain medication in my car and I was in a bad area and I got pulled over and I didn't have my pills in my original perscription bottle they where inna pill dispenser/ weekly organizer which was dismissed and down graded to a disorderly persons offense
they didn't tell me why I have to do the program though? so im
not sure if its the arrest or my meds ?
my thing is .. is that if im prescribed pwin meds are they going to increase my time to do more time on the program ?
becayse I have seen other post where ppl where taking anxiety n anti depressants an there time was increased ?
so I'm not sure why the board is suggesting I do this evaluation before I get my license?
dose the evaluation cost anything? Also what will they ask me
I'm guessing they are making me do the program because of my past charges or because I take prescription pain meds there were 2 charges one was dropped that was with a fight with my ex girlfriend and the second charge was bcuz I had pain medication in my car and I was in a bad area and I got pulled over and I didn't have my pills in my original perscription bottle they where inna pill dispenser/ weekly organizer which they originally charged me with possession on my meds but it was dismissed and down graded to a disorderly persons offense when I braught in my script bottle .. so I'm not sure is it the charges or my meds that's why they are making me do this program ?
they say if the evaluation goes well they will give me my license... but if I'm on controlled medication I will have to do this program for a long time correct or ? I'm wondering if I stop taking my prescription pain medication will they let me finish the program within a week or so
they didn't tell me why I have to do the program though? so im
not sure if its the arrest or my meds ?
my thing is .. is that if im prescribed pwin meds are they going to increase my time to do more time on the program ?
becayse I have seen other post where ppl where taking anxiety n anti depressants an there time was increased ?
can anyone answer this for me please?
also if I stop my pain medications do I still have to do this program?
@Healer555 isn't that breaking hippa though looking at my past perscription print out ?
so I do not have a drug or alcohol problem so I'm guessing they are making me do the program because of my past charges or because I take perscriotion pain meds there were 2 charges one was dropped that was with a fight with my ex girlfriend and the second charge was bcuz inhad pain medication in my car and I was in a bad area and I got pulled over and I didn't have my pills in my original perscription bottle they where inna pill dispenser/ weekly organizer which was dismissed and down graded to a disorderly persons offense
they didn't tell me why I have to do the program though? so im
not sure if its the arrest or my meds ?
my thing is .. is that if im prescribed pwin meds are they going to increase my time to do more time on the program ?
becayse I have seen other post where ppl where taking anxiety n anti depressants an there time was increased ?
can anyone answer this for me please?
When I did my evaluation I had to sign a release of information so they could talk to my providers etc. If you don't cooperate they can report you to the board.
I don't think they will allow you to continue psin medication if they contain opiates. Where I am, if you want to or need to take opiates they give you five years not 3 but expect you to stop and stay stopped your last 2 years. I'm guessing they will say you're an addict because you were considered disorderly while taking a substance. I don't have a substance use disorder but here I am. There's definitely a charge for the evaluation.
I hope you're able to walk away from this with no monitoring agreement but that's not the norm.
ashley1879
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Are you in the program in nj ? Also where u a nurse and then had to go into the program or for you to get your license you had to finish the program also is every ones expirenxe the same everyone has to do the 3 hair drug tests and 3 urine tests and get an appointment with an evaluator do they reccomend who you have to see for the evaluation also they don't make you go to like AA meetings that are free ? You have to pay for these meetings I'm winding if everyone's had to go through the same exact process with the same exact testing and evaluations? or is it based on each case ? -another thing is how do people get lawyers for this if the non says I have to complete the program before they give me my license ?
one last thing Also if I'm on medications I had some questions about them but they are a little more personal is
there anyway you can email me and I can talk to you in private by chance ? I don't see a private chat area to send you a personal message mine is
Ashleyg2980@ y a h o o if you can help me out I would really appreciate it