Ramp in NJ- Why am I not surprised!!!!!!!

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I have been in Ramp program for close to 2 months now. Beside's my initial blood test being positive of PEth all my subsequent testings has been negative. Including hair, nails and 4 different urine(all different options).

Last week on July 9th they sent me for an evaluation for alcohol. The evaluator took a random UDS which was negative for alcohol. Her recommendation to Ramp was that at present time I don't need any further outpatient weekly treatment, which Ramp over preceded their decision forcing me to go for weekly treatment which I agreed on.

July 10th I ended up having a confrontation with my facilitator regarding Ramp's forceful decision and being very upset/angry.

July 12th I had option 5 urine drug screen which I found out this morning is positive. Surprise!!!! Surprise!!!!!

I went to Quest diagnostic this morning and was told that I don't have any record of me ever being there for urine drug screen. I showed them my donor copy and requested further investigation as why am I not in the computer that I was there on July 12th for my screening?

The lab technician gave me some further information to call, which I did. I am non-existent in their computer. However, I have positive result from FSS which is Ramp's result lab.

I further called in all my other lab testing sites where my results were negative and sure behold I was present in all their computer information.

Also, even if we are paying for all our testing we don't have any access to our results except negative or positive. Which in itself is utter nonsense.

So my question is how did I disappear completely for my positive results yet was present in all other lab testing for my negative results ??? Very very fishy and highly unethical and illegal.

I called my lawyer this morning. Waiting for his response. This all is a nightmare to say the least:(((((

KathyMomRN said:

NJ is very strict because of the Cullen Law. Everyone should know all that terrible man did and you will understand why Nj is so strict. Granted they take it to the max extreme but that is why 

I looked it up. The nurse was a serial killer.  It's ridiculous that myself and others pay for his crimes.  

Specializes in Nursing administration/ICU/PACU.

The Law is not well written and it's application is severely flawed. The intent was good and to protect the public, but the application of this law actually kills people as well. It kills them slowly in the formnof ruined lives due to improper application of the law leading to stress, lost jobs, lost work, financial hardship leads to divorce and broken relationships, leads to heart disease leads to death. I argue the laws application over the long haul, has indirectly killed far more than Cullen did. PS Netflix has a good movie about Cullen.

Specializes in Apn.

You're absolutely right

Specializes in Nursing administration/ICU/PACU.

"She worked in L&D and a baby was given wrong dose of medication and was not documented tried to cover it up. Her management reported her to Ramp". I think what probably happened here is the nurse was fired for trying to cover up a med error. Usually that's falsification of medical records. As a mandatory reporting state, if you are fired for something like that, the employer has no choice but to report this the the NJBON. The BON decides if they are going to take action, dismiss it, or refer to RAMP.

BTW the book "The Good Nurse" is so much better than the Netflix movie! 

Specializes in ICU, Psych.
Mod925 said:

This thing scared me straight, traumatic. Because you never know who can report you . All it takes is a phone call. They run a check they have access. Even nursing students who have any dui or drug related cases they won't be able to take the board until they do ramp. One girl worked in NJ went to throw out her garbage at her philadelphia residence on a rainy day was tipsy put the garbage in her trunk to bring it to the dumpster drove a block. The police gave her a ticket... 5 yrs in nj ramp had to do NJ rather then Penn because she worked in Jersey and Ramp trumps Pennsylvania monitoring. 

OMG did you go to meetings in Bergen County? Because I remember this case from going to the meetings, a lady taking the trash in her apartment complex and got a dui

Specializes in Nursing administration/ICU/PACU.

I actually spoke to that nurse and she admitted she did "mouth off and give the cop an attitude". He actually said to her he knows the charge will be dropped but he knows she's a nurse and the Board of Nursing won't drop it. 
lesson learned never mouth off to a cop! It's just terrible how some people with power can ruin your life

Specializes in ICU, Psych.
KathyMomRN said:

Oh boy yes that certainly happens. It's a classic example of a common practice that is accepted as OK because everyone seems to do it, but now I know better and don't take even an antibiotic if it's not prescribed to me!

Never again!

Specializes in ICU, Psych.
KathyMomRN said:

I actually spoke to that nurse and she admitted she did "mouth off and give the cop an attitude". He actually said to her he knows the charge will be dropped but he knows she's a nurse and the Board of Nursing won't drop it. 
lesson learned never mouth off to a cop! It's just terrible how some people with power can ruin your life

WOW!! That is so terrible!!

 

Specializes in ICU PCT 5 years.

Does anyone happen to know at what point during the 90 day evaluation you will be hair tested? Like is it the final month? Or is it the first test they do before making a decision? Or is it completely random? 


 

 

Specializes in Nursing administration/ICU/PACU.

I think it's usually within the first few weeks to ensure the hair test matches your stated history. If they find a discrepancy you are in for 5 years.,

Specializes in ICU PCT 5 years.
KathyMomRN said:

I think it's usually within the first few weeks to ensure the hair test matches your stated history. If they find a discrepancy you are in for 5 years.,

Is there any way I can privately speak with you? Email, etc? You seem incredibly knowledgeable with Ramp and I would like to pick your brain some if possible. I am happy to provide email or other contact. I'm a new nurse applicant and this request for evaluation has completely turned my life on its head...

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