California Nurses Association may be targeting University of Chicago after Cook County win
If there's a campaign map on the wall at the Oakland, Calif., headquarters of the California Nurses Association, the Chicago area must be ground zero.
Since winning away Cook County's 1,800 nurses from the Illinois Nurses Association, the independent union has linked with nurses at more than 20 Chicago-area hospitals with the goal of organizing a handful of them, union officials say.
One possible target is the University of Chicago Hospitals, where workers from the national organizing arm of the California Nurses have been talking with nurses.
They say they are only helping the 1,300 University of Chicago nurses, who belong to the Illinois Nurses Association. But they do not rule out an eventual organizing drive like the one they successfully staged at Cook County.
The situation is "reminiscent" of what happened with Cook County's nurses, confirmed Fernando Losada, head of Midwest operations for the National Nurses Organizing Committee, the national arm for the California Nurses Association.
So, when the majority of America wanted slavery- that was ok?
When most of America wanted Segregation- blacks just had to "suck it up"?
The majority of America is against gay marriage- should gays be forced to move to Canada?
How about if 51% of America voted to abolish abortion- is that too ok?
Think about that assertion, sometimes the majority is NOT entitled to "their way or the highway."
You got me, that's exactly what I think... so you must think that the minority gets to decide who becomes president... cause there is no middle ground eh?
I agree with you that sometimes the majority is not entitled to their way or the highway and actually said that in the post you quoted. Sometimes they are. Closed union shops in states that are not right to work states is one place that they are.
I worked here almost twenty years before voting for representation with CNA.
Before we were bought by a for profit chain we had a voice.
No one has to ask a nurse representative to talk to anyone.
We do have a right to representation if we believe the discussion could lead to discipline.
As a nurse representative I attend if possible. I take notes. The only time I say anything is to ask, "What is the policy and/or procedure?"
No one can say a nurse said something in a private meetinf if there is no private meeting.
See, believe it or not hospital management sometimes flaunts the law. Sometimes they side with incompetent or even drunk physicians. The nurse who questions unsafe practices becomes a "troublemaker"
That heroic nurse should not be alone with someone who may then mis represent what was said.
It hurts me that our healthcare is an industry with the budget more important than the mission. But what else can explain sending a nurse home at 3:00 am leaving the unit unsafely staffed?
OH here are working links. I noticed a post had one that didn't work:
1. The greater number or part; a number more than half of the total.
51% is more than half the total, so that fits with the definition of majority. Plurality in an election refers to the side that got the most votes where there are more than two options, but their total does not equal more than half of the votes cast (see #4). An example is the last Canadian election. The winning party got a little over 30% of the vote. This is also sometimes called the relative majority (whereas more than 50% is the absolute majority).
a. In a contest of more than two choices, the number of votes cast for the winning choice if this number is not more than one half of the total votes cast.
b. The number by which the vote of the winning choice in such a contest exceeds that of the closest opponent
Well, shut my mouth.... I always get them confused..
Please, the problem is not specific to painters Unions
The CNA is mailing all kinds of propaganda claiming CVHP is denying the will of the nurses and that they are making false accusations, yet they never mention what the accusations are... funny that. It seems to me that if they were false they would announce loud and clear from a hilltop so that all could take issue with them.
Citrus Valley RNs to Hold Candlelight Vigil Thursday, March 16 - Nurses to Hospital--"Respect our Vote, No More Delays"
Candlelight Vigil
Date: Thursday, March 16, 2006
Time: 6:00 PM
Place: Citrus Valley Medical Center,
Queen of the Valley Campus
1115 South Sunset Avenue
West Covina, CA 91790
..."I think the reason why the hearing ended so soon is because Citrus administration didn't have much of a case to begin with," said Maria Domingo an RN who works in Labor and Delivery at Queen of the Valley and who attended both days of the hearing. "Whether you are for or against CNA, it is insulting to all nurses when they say our vote was somehow influenced by the ludicrous things they have raised during this hearing."
"The nurses have exercised our democratic right and overwhelmingly voted in a secret ballot election for CNA because we want a real voice in decisions that effect patient care," said Annazilta Pierre-Duncan a Citrus RN who was also present at the hearing. "Administration should respect the wishes of the nurses. The hospital is just stalling and in wasting precious time and resources that could be better spent on improving care."...
Citrus Valley RNs to Hold Candlelight Vigil Thursday, March 16 - Nurses to Hospital--“Respect our Vote, No More Delays”
Candlelight Vigil
Date: Thursday, March 16, 2006
Time: 6:00 PM
Place: Citrus Valley Medical Center,
Queen of the Valley Campus
1115 South Sunset Avenue
West Covina, CA 91790
…“I think the reason why the hearing ended so soon is because Citrus administration didn’t have much of a case to begin with,” said Maria Domingo an RN who works in Labor and Delivery at Queen of the Valley and who attended both days of the hearing. “Whether you are for or against CNA, it is insulting to all nurses when they say our vote was somehow influenced by the ludicrous things they have raised during this hearing.”
“The nurses have exercised our democratic right and overwhelmingly voted in a secret ballot election for CNA because we want a real voice in decisions that effect patient care,” said Annazilta Pierre-Duncan a Citrus RN who was also present at the hearing. “Administration should respect the wishes of the nurses. The hospital is just stalling and in wasting precious time and resources that could be better spent on improving care.”…
Yet with all the propaganda..
they still didnt state what the allegations were did they?
If it is just a stalling tactic, announce what the allegations are...right?
Do not ask for blind support... ohhh opps thats exactly what unions do!
****and then there is the list of canidates that the CNA supports, the first 10 were all demoncrats, so I didnt even look at the rest, I am sure that they are the same... Like I said, if the unions would stick to collective bargaining, and quit supporting leftist canidates, then less people would have a problem with them, but they can't.
There has also been no mention of the fact that CNA supports the clean money bill, which would limit corporate contributions to campaigns, yet from what I can see, there is no limit on what the unions can contribute...amazingly, democrats support this bill...hmmmmmmm
...Diane Flores, a nurse who voted in favor of going union said the hospital's legal objections are "just bogus charges." Flores gathered with dozens of co-workers on Sunset Avenue, in front of the hospital, for a candlelight vigil....
...Since the Jan. 27 vote to join the California Nurses Association, Citrus Valley Health Partners, the hospital's parent company, has filed nine legal objections with the National Labor Relations Board.
The nurses voted 358-247 in favor of joining the union in a secret-ballot election supervised by federal labor officials.
Union organizer Roy Hong call the objections "frivolous."
"We obviously don't think they're frivolous," said Lisa Foust, vice president of human resources for Citrus Valley Health Partners. "We think they're responsive."...
...The protesters on Thursday were joined by Assemblyman Ed Chavez, D-Industry.
"I'm disappointed at the administration of the hospital," Chavez said. He said the 111-vote margin of victory for the union should show that most nurses did not find the union's organizing tactics objectionable.
A final ruling on the vote is expected from the National Labor Relations Board next month....
There has also been no mention of the fact that CNA supports the clean money bill, which would limit corporate contributions to campaigns, yet from what I can see, there is no limit on what the unions can contribute...amazingly, democrats support this bill...hmmmmmmm
Here it is:
Los Angeles Times
January 24, 2006
..."The proposal would limit union donations to candidates"...
...Allows a participating candidate to receive "seed money contributions," not exceeding $100 from any single registered voter, for the purposes of paying expenses incurred in qualifying to receive public financing under the provisions of this bill. Limits the total amount of seed money contributions that a candidate can receive to the following amounts: ...
...Defines a "qualifying contribution" as a contribution of $5 that is received during the designated qualifying period by a candidate seeking to become eligible for Clean Money campaign funding from a registered voter of the district in which the candidate is running for office...
...Prohibits a participating candidate from receiving private contributions from any source other than qualifying contributions or seed money contributions...
...Allows a participating candidate to receive "seed money contributions," not exceeding $100 from any single registered voter, for the purposes of paying expenses incurred in qualifying to receive public financing under the provisions of this bill. Limits the total amount of seed money contributions that a candidate can receive to the following amounts: ...
...Defines a "qualifying contribution" as a contribution of $5 that is received during the designated qualifying period by a candidate seeking to become eligible for Clean Money campaign funding from a registered voter of the district in which the candidate is running for office...
...Prohibits a participating candidate from receiving private contributions from any source other than qualifying contributions or seed money contributions...
To pay for the system, the nurses plan to propose raising the state's bank and corporate tax rate or adding a new tax on oil pumped from California wells. The initiative would allow candidates to spend unlimited sums of their own money on their own campaigns, as current state law permits. There are no restrictions on donations to ballot measure campaigns under current law, though contributions to candidates are capped. The caps are far less stringent than what the nurses are contemplating.
The proposal would limit union donations to candidates, but not initiative campaigns
Where the unions spent more than the governor anyways, and is supposedly the basis for the Clean Money Bill (The large amount spent is what raised the CNA ire)
...allows a participating candidate to receive "seed money contributions," not exceeding $100 from any single registered voter, for the purposes of paying expenses incurred in qualifying to receive public financing under the provisions of this bill. limits the total amount of seed money contributions that a candidate can receive to the following amounts: ...
...defines a "qualifying contribution" as a contribution of $5 that is received during the designated qualifying period by a candidate seeking to become eligible for clean money campaign funding from a registered voter of the district in which the candidate is running for office...
...prohibits a participating candidate from receiving private contributions from any source other than qualifying contributions or seed money contributions...
another thing...the summary that you linked says that the funding act will be initiated, and itself was a summary of the clean money fund and what it would do...
it also stated that there would be no limit on outside spending...which is what unions do also...no?
there is even a provision that says a canidate can recieve up to 5 times the funds amount that is spent by "outside opposition".
the bill aslo essiently limits those who run for office to dems and repubs. and for indies other parties to get the same funding, they have to double the work..
yeah, unions are for the little guy. this bill would basically embolden democrats, take money away from reupblicans, and completely eliminate any hope of having more than 2 parties in the state of california...
and, as i said before, it does nothing to limit the outside spending (which is were you get the wild commercials) nor does it do anything limit iniatiave spending, which is supposedly the catalyst for the nurses to pass this bill.
also, the q and a states that there will be no limit on what unions can donate
voice, which they can only do collectively through
their non-profit organizations and unions.
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read as:
we do not want the special interest of corporations to spend big money.
however, the big money special interest of unions are ok!
how much did the cna and other unions spend on the 2005 special election in ca?
and they state again that "67% of state ballot measure spending...."
yet their bill does not limit iniative and ballot measure spending...
from one of your links
the nurses' proposal says california's current system "diminishes the free speech rights of a majority of voters and candidates whose voices are drowned out by those who can afford to monopolize the arena of paid political communications
those that can afford to drown out political contributions...???
I always get them confused..
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You got me, that's exactly what I think... so you must think that the minority gets to decide who becomes president... cause there is no middle ground eh?
I agree with you that sometimes the majority is not entitled to their way or the highway and actually said that in the post you quoted. Sometimes they are. Closed union shops in states that are not right to work states is one place that they are.