"study ADN 5 trisems in RP + 1 trisem in US = US graduate" - is it possible??

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good day to all!

may i know your insights about this:

"st. ignatius health science college offers the philippines' pioneer two-year registered nursing (asdn) program specifically intended for those who wish to work in the united states. our curriculum includes a final trimester which qualified students will spend at an affiliated school in the u.s., finishing as u.s. graduates. students will study 20 months in the philippines (5 trimesters of 4 months each) and 4 months at fresno city college in california. "

from: http://www.stignatiuscollege.com/index.htm

what can you say?

your willingness to make your curriuculum very similar to ours will make this process easier."

although fresno city college is a legit institution and listed in ca bon, this is a key statement. the students will still be evaluated based on the curriculum they finished in the philippines. you have to inquire directly with fresno city college whether they have a "twinning" affiliation with st. ignatius (via email).

the other issue is with immigration. i would request for a second opinion from another immigration lawyer whether their lawyer is being honest.

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Although Fresno City College is a legit institution and listed in CA BON, this is a key statement. The students will still be evaluated based on the curriculum they finished in the Philippines. You have to inquire directly with Fresno City College whether they have a "twinning" affiliation with St. Ignatius (via email).

The other issue is with immigration. I would request for a second opinion from another immigration lawyer whether their lawyer is being honest.

St. Ignatius Health Science College made its curriculum very similar to Fresno City Colleges'. Here is a link for comparison:

SIHSC: http://www.stignatiuscollege.com/curriculum_ADN.htm

Fresno City College: http://www.fresnocitycollege.edu/healthscience/nursing/requirements.html

By the way, thanks for the advice and for the help.

I hope we could be informed better with the help of that immigration lawyer with regards to the student visa application issue.

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St. Ignatius Health Science College made its curriculum very similar to Fresno City Colleges'. Here is a link for comparison:

SIHSC: http://www.stignatiuscollege.com/curriculum_ADN.htm

Fresno City College: http://www.fresnocitycollege.edu/healthscience/nursing/requirements.html

By the way, thanks for the advice and for the help.

I hope we could be informed better with the help of that immigration lawyer with regards to the student visa application issue.

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suggest you seek the counsel of a different immigration lawyer. the school's "atty-endorser" would naturally be biased to the interest he represents or is obliged to represent at this point.

the 3-way benefit (us-adn, eligility for nclex-rn, eligibility for opt, 1-year) mr. atty-endorser outlined is identical with what any current int'l nursing student on an f1 visa in the u.s. is holding out for after he graduates. i believe, unless uscis acknowledges this pioneering program exactly as it is presented (a us-conferred degree?), the chance for it delivering its promises remain questionable. i can't help but be wary because it seems like you'll never know for sure what will really happen until after 2 years...or is there a way to confirm this matter directly with the uscis now (without having to agitate them into opening a can of worms....)?

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The other problem is that they don't have any Filipino grad who was sponsored by any hospital and can prove to you that it can be done. You don't want to be the guinea pig and spend 5-10 times more than a regular BSN from the Philippines without getting anything from it. TOO RISKY.

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I agree it is too risky. Subjects to be taken from that school will not be recognized by CHED if one will have to transfer to the BSN program, notwithstanding the cost one will have to incur in enrolling with that program.

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hello! thanks for your replies.

by the way, here are some excerpts from their full-page advertisement in the philippine daily inquirer that i was able to copy:

"your proposal of sending your senior students to fresno city college as advanced placement students to take the last semester courses in the fcc rn program and to complete the courses necessary for the college to grant them an associate degree will make the students eligible to the nclex rn examination. your willingness to make your curriuculum very similar to ours will make this process easier."

- ned doffoney (message to st. ignatius health science college)

fresno city college, president

"your students can sit for the nclex by enrolling into the fresno adn program to complete their studies. this would allow your students to sit for the nclex as graduates of fresno city college."

- maria e. bedroni (message to st. ignatius health science college)

supervising nursing educ consultant, board of nursing, california

it is really too good to be true. what do you thinks guys?

this was pointed out before on this thread. read very carefully. both quotes state that, once you are, in effect, granted an assoc degree nsg from fresno state, you can sit the nclex-rn exam.

true enough, maybe. but. that has nothing to do with the immigration process. and since the us requires a bsn for nursing to immigrate, that adn and passing nclex-rn exam results will look very pretty, hanging on the wall of your house in the phillipines. . .

you are confusing two requirements: the requirements to take nclex, and the requirements to immigrate. they are not always the same. your ad seems to me to be purposely playing off that confusion.

~faith,

timothy.

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And as Timothy pointed oit aboove, just because you can sit for an American exam, it doesn't give you automatic rights to work in the US. You still must meet immigration requirements. Same thing as having the LPN programs there and they say that you can sit for the NCLEX-PN exam. Great that you can sit for it, but you will never get a green card because of it, or even a visa that you can work with.

Unlkess you want to be treated like slave labor and are brought over under false pretenses as an unskilled laborer. Unfortunately, some unscrupulous body sellers have tried this. Please be very concerned about this. This is not how to do things and definitely will not get any help from any of us on this.

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This was pointed out before on this thread. READ VERY CAREFULLY. Both quotes state that, once you are, in effect, granted an Assoc Degree Nsg from Fresno State, you can sit the NCLEX-RN exam.

True enough, maybe. BUT. That has NOTHING to do with the immigration process. And since the US requires a BSN for nursing to immigrate, that ADN and passing NCLEX-RN exam results will look very pretty, hanging on the wall of your house in the Phillipines. . .

You are confusing two requirements: the requirements to take NCLEX, and the requirements to immigrate. They are not always the same. Your ad seems to me to be PURPOSELY playing off that confusion.

~faith,

Timothy.

I am sad to know that someone is "confused" with the topic.

May I clarify my position that the intention for this topic is to gather good insights from caring individuals who would like to help so that other interested parties, who have limited capacity to verify everything via international call, would be guided in an economical way?

Please try to understand that the excerpts are not intended to either confuse readers or advertise something. Thank you.

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I am sad to know that someone is "confused" with the topic.

May I clarify my position that the intention for this topic is to gather good insights from caring individuals who would like to help so that other interested parties, who have limited capacity to verify everything via international call, would be guided in an economical way?

Please try to understand that the excerpts are not intended to either confuse readers or advertise something. Thank you.

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of course. with the responses so far, i'd say your intention has been adequately met. if there's anyone really confused, that is the person who'd give in to the shady promises of this program.

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of course. with the responses so far, i'd say your intention has been adequately met. if there's anyone really confused, that is the person who'd give in to the shady promises of this program.

Correct! I agree!

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hi there, let me share what I know regarding this program.

I was also attracted with the program of St. Ignatius so I personally inquired there. And still there are some questions that are playing in my mind. Since the program is still new and just been introduced this year, no graduate can actually say that this program is very successful and worth to try. Not even the owner of St. Ignatius can prove that their program is successful. Maybe a year or two, then somebody can prove the real pros and cons of the program.

Here's how the program goes.

Spend 5 trimester at St. Ignatius, after completing their requirements, you will be given a test... somewhat like a NCLEX exam..or mock NCLEX exam. If you passed their required mark, then you will be endorsed to Fresno College. What if you don't pass... try again? can you practice what you've learned? Don't know. Let's just say you passed. Then you are going to the US, but wait, how's the process getting there?

So, Fresno Coll will send you a F1 forms (F-1 is the code for Student Visa) and you will be required to appear in the US embassy for your student visa interview. Let me tell you that not all are granted with a Student Visa. So if you are not granted, what are you going to do while waiting for the second chance (6 months interval). Can you practice what you've learned while waiting? Again, Let's think positive and say that you are granted. One year Student Visa.

So, you are now in the US. After your 6th semester at Fresno, you will be an Associate Degree graduate of Fresno Coll and they said that you are allowed to take the NCLEX exam. However, if you don't pass the exam within the span of 1 year which is the duration of your student visa, you will be asked to go back in the Philippines. If you are not going back then you are an Illegal alien. Then you are not alone , there are plenty of Illegal aliens and over staying people in the US. What If you passed NCLEX? Can you work legally? Take note, the visa here is student (F-1) and I don't know if IRS has granted you the right to work. Well, if you could find sponsors for your working visa or immigrant then you are lucky.

Other school offering similar program is Arellano University and their affiliated college is located in West Virginia.

The tuition fee of these schools, if you took their program, is ranging from 45K – 65K Pesos.

For those who knows more about the program, kindly correct me.

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hi there, let me share what I know regarding this program.

I was also attracted with the program of St. Ignatius so I personally inquired there. And still there are some questions that are playing in my mind. Since the program is still new and just been introduced this year, no graduate can actually say that this program is very successful and worth to try. Not even the owner of St. Ignatius can prove that their program is successful. Maybe a year or two, then somebody can prove the real pros and cons of the program.

Here's how the program goes.

Spend 5 trimester at St. Ignatius, after completing their requirements, you will be given a test... somewhat like a NCLEX exam..or mock NCLEX exam. If you passed their required mark, then you will be endorsed to Fresno College. What if you don't pass... try again? can you practice what you've learned? Don't know. Let's just say you passed. Then you are going to the US, but wait, how's the process getting there?

So, Fresno Coll will send you a F1 forms (F-1 is the code for Student Visa) and you will be required to appear in the US embassy for your student visa interview. Let me tell you that not all are granted with a Student Visa. So if you are not granted, what are you going to do while waiting for the second chance (6 months interval). Can you practice what you've learned while waiting? Again, Let's think positive and say that you are granted. One year Student Visa.

So, you are now in the US. After your 6th semester at Fresno, you will be an Associate Degree graduate of Fresno Coll and they said that you are allowed to take the NCLEX exam. However, if you don't pass the exam within the span of 1 year which is the duration of your student visa, you will be asked to go back in the Philippines. If you are not going back then you are an Illegal alien. Then you are not alone , there are plenty of Illegal aliens and over staying people in the US. What If you passed NCLEX? Can you work legally? Take note, the visa here is student (F-1) and I don't know if IRS has granted you the right to work. Well, if you could find sponsors for your working visa or immigrant then you are lucky.

Other school offering similar program is Arellano University and their affiliated college is located in West Virginia.

The tuition fee of these schools, if you took their program, is ranging from 45K - 65K Pesos.

For those who knows more about the program, kindly correct me.

Hello! It's good to have someone like you in this forum. Thanks for your information - it's quite detailed.

I read about Arellano University too. But I don't know how their program goes. Maybe someone would share it here someday

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