"Smart" students make bad nurses?

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So I have heard time and time again from nursing professors and clinical adjuncts that "4.0 students often have a hard time transitioning to the floor, B or C students make better nurses". While I totally get that there are some people out there that are so cerebral that they don't do well on the floor, I think this blanket statement is a bunch of bunk.

I bring this up because I am a 4.0 student. I am also involved in clubs and student groups, volunteer outside of school, and often get complimented in clinicals. However, even with that I still hear the comment over and over that A students don't make as good of nurses as B and C nurses.

What do you nurses who are actually out there on the floor think?

Your own observations are anecdotal, not empirical. Or do you have actual empirical evidence? I'd be curious to see it.

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When I went to Nursing school this is what quite a few of my instructors told the students as well. They said that many times their C students were better clinically than their A students. They said that the A students found it harder to think critically on the floor. I wasn't an A student but I was the only one in my entire class that passed the Hesi with more than a 900. I never worried about my grades I worried about whether or not I was grasping the information and able to apply it. I guess in the end I did pretty well, out of my entire graduating class there has only been 4 students total including myself that has passed the NCLEX. That was back in 2012, an expensive degree to have and never be able to use.

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That's terrible. Maybe they said this as a disclaimer because they knew they had a horrid pass rate.

Ugh.

Let's look at your #3.

Can we please stop with the young pretty card? And the females in the workplace thing? Does it have to invade every thread?

I haven't decided if it irks me more when a man says it or when a woman does.

Irksome all around.

As for your number #4, I'm not gonna go there today.

I understand that it "irks" you and sometimes the truth hurts. I believe that if the OP wants to have a successful transition she'll follow my recommendations! I question if it was worth your time to respond and initiate a fight with me because I could really care less if you are "irked."

This entire thread is bordeline offensive to anyone who didn't earn "straight A's."

Why? Why is it borderline offensive?

The vast majority of the responses have indicated that grades are not indicative (either way) of the successful transition of new nurses.

No one has said that a B student is worse than an A student in the field, and some have indicated that they believe that A students DO have trouble transitioning.

No one has said that B and C students don't try hard, but some have said that they may be doing more outside of school that make them more well rounded.

I am very confused on why that would offend anyone (other than an A student maybe). This is exactly what I was getting at by my original post. Why do we, as a society, minimize the achievements of some in order not to offend others?

I'm starting to think that the sweeping generalization that the OP asks about is not true in some regard based on the fact that folks with straight A's who have responded to this post seem to have an "I worked harder than you, therefore I must be better than you" attitude.

Straight A's is not a guarantee that you will do well outside of school.

Can you give an example of a post that says or implies that A students works harder than B or C students? I truly am curious as I have read every post and didn't get that out of any of them.

I never said that A students are guaranteed to do well outside of school, and I don't think that anyone responded that they did. I asked if A students do WORSE on the floor than B or C students, as suggested by my professors.

I understand that it "irks" you and sometimes the truth hurts. I believe that if the OP wants to have a successful transition she'll follow my recommendations! I question if it was worth your time to respond and initiate a fight with me because I could really care less if you are "irked."

I don't care about you, nor was I starting a "fight". NETY Is pretty worn out on AN, as you will figure out if you keep posting here.

New nurses don't succeed or fail on their age, nor their looks.

Can you give an example of a post that says or implies that A students works harder than B or C students? I truly am curious as I have read every post and didn't get that out of any of them.

I never said that A students are guaranteed to do well outside of school, and I don't think that anyone responded that they did. I asked if A students do WORSE on the floor than B or C students, as suggested by my professors.

Nope, you didn't. :)

Your whole attitude has been fine, OP. Great thread.

For me, I learned how to pass the tests not remember the way to think as a nurse, so that made it very hard to transition onto the floor. I was a B+ student but could not recall all the important things I needed. I think if i had learned like a diploma nurse had, by practicing the thinking and the skills all the way thru school it would have been a part of my way of approaching things and the transition would have been much easier. Aside from that, my last clinical i had excellent mentors in CCU, when i moved to ICU the nurses could not care less about teaching in a structured manor......needless to say I'm no longer a practicing nurse....nursing schools and internships need to find a way to create situations that work for various learning styles. Without that there will always be those who won't transition well even tho they have the potential to be good nurses.

I have to agree with the statement "that some nurses who are academically bright" and whom have been selected on their university highest grades, struggle with the transitioning to the floor. For I have watched as I came through the ranks and had received some nasty comments from thee academically bright stars to find them in the workplace unable to adjust to the politics and provide the very basic of basic cares and patient-centered cares. It is nothing short of sheer negligence what I just went through recently with a dying relative. When they don't know something they found something else to occupy they time with to just hand that care over. The staff I have worked with for years that were not so academically bright did not hide truths but admitted and sought more experienced practitioners to learn from and provided patient-centered care in a holistic way. It is about time the nursing profession found a way to select on attitude and care factor not this is a job for me after university. Your heart and soul goes into this profession and is felt by all whom you connect with. Death and dying and patients in extreme pain with no real effective control is the hard part of nursing the sick.

Let's look at your #3.

Can we please stop with the young pretty card? And the females in the workplace thing? Does it have to invade every thread?

I haven't decided if it irks me more when a man says it or when a woman does.

Irksome all around.

As for your number #4, I'm not gonna go there today.

So much sexism in one post...

Actually their pass rate was quite good until that year. I figured out why but they haven't had an issue with any classes prior to or since.

So much sexism in one post...

Me, Purp??? :(

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