"Recording lecture reinforces weakness."

[neverbethesame]

Hi,

I am a nursing student who also taught Pre-K through Adults for 10 years as certified teacher prior to entering nursing school. The above quote was said by my peds clinical instructor. She's been a nurse for many years and done lecture/clinical for many years at different schools (Diploma and ADN), she is new to my school and only doing clinical though she is looking for a job and I'm concerned that my ADN program will hire her.

As someone who spent much time learning about and integrating into my lessons, the basic learning styles of visual, auditory and tactile, it concerns me that she clearly doesn't understand the concept of learning styles or how to support the proven strategies to assist students.

What I am asking of all of you:

-How do I share my concerns with my department head and higher?

-How do I express my concerns to the instructor after the semester is over?

In both instances, I would use current evidence-based supporting documents.

Thank you in advance!!

[nurse2033, MSN, RN]

In what regard was she making that statement (about recording)? That sounds a bit odd… It the lecture is weak, why is she giving it???

I have been in your situation before. I believe there is little you can do, unless there is an exceptional director in charge. This teacher's credibility and resume dwarfs yours. If you wanted to present compelling arguments, I would wait until you have graduated. Then, you don't have to worry about a backlash. She might be a personal friend of the director and you could put yourself in jeopardy.

Do you know the director of your program? If you can get some face time, and get to know them on a personal basis, you might be able to express your concern and be taken seriously. Hopefully the school might ask for some feedback before hiring her on full time, and that would be a chance to voice your concerns. Good luck.

[classicdame, MSN, EdD]

If she is the lecturer she may feel intimidated by a recording device - as if she might be reprimaded for saying the wrong thing. Lectures should contain facts, not opinions, unless it is stated ahead of time this is an opinion. I agree with you. Some people are audio learners. Some are just plain sleepy from having so much to do and rely on recordings to recall the information. Good luck with this.

[llg, PhD, RN]

Saying bad things about someone to prevent them from getting a job is risky. Be careful. Since she is your current instructor, I assume you will be given the opportunity to do a course evaluation. Use that opportunity -- but stick to the concrete facts about what you personally have experienced -- things that are likely to be consistent with what other students will write. Don't appear to be "out to get" this instructor. Your role in this situation is to provide honest, objective information about her performance as an instructor so that the school can make an informed hiring decision. That is all.

[pinkiepinkPN]

If she is the lecturer she may feel intimidated by a recording device - as if she might be reprimaded for saying the wrong thing. Lectures should contain facts not opinions, unless it is stated ahead of time this is an opinion. I agree with you. Some people are audio learners. Some are just plain sleepy from having so much to do and rely on recordings to recall the information. Good luck with this.[/quote']

Recording lectures got me through nursing school. Period.

[morte, LPN, LVN]

In what regard was she making that statement (about recording)? That sounds a bit odd… It the lecture is weak, why is she giving it???

I have been in your situation before. I believe there is little you can do, unless there is an exceptional director in charge. This teacher's credibility and resume dwarfs yours. If you wanted to present compelling arguments, I would wait until you have graduated. Then, you don't have to worry about a backlash. She might be a personal friend of the director and you could put yourself in jeopardy.

Do you know the director of your program? If you can get some face time, and get to know them on a personal basis, you might be able to express your concern and be taken seriously. Hopefully the school might ask for some feedback before hiring her on full time, and that would be a chance to voice your concerns. Good luck.

not so sure, the op state she/he has 10 years as a teacher.....

[nurse2033, MSN, RN]

not so sure, the op state she/he has 10 years as a teacher.....

What I meant is that in field of nursing- you have a long time nurse and teacher, versus a student. I didn't mean that the student didn't know anything, just that the credibility resides with the teacher.

[caliotter3]

This individual just doesn't want to have her lectures recorded for whatever "reason", and is using anything to try to snow the student into accepting her limitation. Any instructor that does a good job should have no concern over being held to what they say in any given class session.

[neverbethesame]

Thank you for the replies!! I addressed it the evaluation at the end of the course and may address it with the instructor after I graduate -as some wisely pointed out!

I know that in this case she is in a better position than me even though I was a teacher for a long time. I believe that locating nursing school-specific information in addition to general learning theory information is key.

Thanks again!!!

[RNGriffin]

I don't believe she meant this is a negative way, by any means. I believe this was a poor choice of wording and delivered to students who are already sensitive.

Recording lectures leads to memorization, and lack of evidence based practice. I believe she was attempting to facilitate research and independent learning.

[organichombre, ADN, BSN, MSN, LPN, RN]

Have you asked her what that means?

[AmyRN303, BSN, RN]

Our instructors encouraged us to record lectures if we were auditory learners. I'm not, but there were a lot of recorders in my class. This seems odd.