"I'm a Nurse Practitioner!"

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Patient comes in by ambulance for Unspecified. On the way in, EMS throws in an 18g and draws blood for labs. Patient looks good, is completely with it, condition seems pretty benign, but need to check a few things. Order CBC, Comp, EKG, do orthostatics, send blood to lab, hang 2nd liter of NS. New ED Doc That I've Never Worked With Before picks up the chart. Orders something that makes sense (but I couldn't order it myself), and something else that seems unnecessary. But whatever. I don't have "M.D." after my name, so I don't question, I just do, and order the test that seems unnecessary.

A while later, Family Member comes out of room, interrupting report I'm giving to Esteemed Colleague so I can go to my federally mandated meal break 6 hours into my 8 hour shift (and I'm starving).

Family Member: "Um, yeah, I was wondering if anyone is ever going to come in and take some blood?"

Me: "They took blood in the ambulance on the way in. It's already in the lab."

Family Member: "Oh, okay, well I was just wondering because the doctor said he was going to order XYZ test, and I'm a Nurse Practitioner, and nobody ever came in and got blood."

Me: "Yeah, they got it in the ambulance. It's in the lab. XYZ test is being done right now."

Family Member: "Okay, well I just thought I'd check, because I'm a Nurse Practitioner...."

Me: Blank stare.

Family Member: Goes back into room.

I finish report and go for a latte since nothing's open at this hour, and I didn't bring a meal.

While I'm on my federally mandated meal break drinking my Latte Dinner, New ED Doc That I've Never Worked With Before apparently tells patient and Family Member that he's going to keep the patient for overnight observation, and Family Member goes home. NEDDTINWWB then asks me to do orthostatics and order another unnecessary test.

Me: "I did orthostatics already (pointing at the chart where I had clearly documented orthostatics on arrival, which were negative), his pressure was rock solid, but I guess I can do them again if you want..."

NEDDTINWWB: (Seeing my documented orthostatics for the first time and barely glancing at them) "Yeah, I think we should repeat them, and get ABC test."

Me: "Okay, but he's not on any blah blah blah medication for his blahbitty blah blah, because yadda yadda, so are you sure we really need this test?"

NEDDTINWWB: (Looking irritated) "Yes, the admitting doctor wants it."

Me, to myself: "Yeah, but if the admitting doctor knew what I just told you, he would think this test was just as unnecessary as I do."

Me, in reality: "Sure, no problem."

Sigh. So, I repeat orthostatics and order ABC test, a bit surprised that this A&O, reasonably healthy, middle aged, walkie talkie patient is going to be admitted for observation of his Benign Condition. This should be a slam dunk treat and street. There is nothing to observe.

Admitting Doctor Genius (really, no sarcasm here; he is brilliant and I'd let him take care of me and mine any day) comes and sees the patient, and says the patient does not need to be admitted (surprise). He does a great job of explaining the Benign Condition to the patient, and the patient is satisfied with the explanation and his disposition.

Next thing I know, my phone is ringing.

Me: "Hi, this is Stargazer."

Voice on Phone: "Yeah, this is the Family Member for Patient X. I want to know what's going on, because I thought he was going to be admitted and he just called me to say he's being discharged, and I'm a Nurse Practitioner, so..."

Me: "I'm sorry, but I can't give out personal medical information over the phone. I can tell you that we've run some tests, everything looks fine, and he's being discharged."

Voice: "Well, I'm not satisfied with that. Did they do Test X? I'm a Nurse Practitioner, so I know they should do Test X."

Me: "I'm sorry, I can't give out specific medical information over the phone. All I can tell you is that we ran some tests and everything looks fine, and he's being discharged."

Voice: "That's not good enough. Did they do Test X or didn't they? I'm a Nurse Practitioner and..."

Me: "Ma'am, I can't give out confidential medical information over the phone. I can let you talk to your family member if you like."

Voice: "I already talked to him. I want to know why he's not going to be admitted. I'm a Nurse Practitioner and I know he's "At Risk", plus I just had surgery."

Me: "Two Medical Doctors have examined him and have determined that it's not medically necessary to admit him. All of his test results are normal. He is being discharged. That's all I can tell you."

Voice: "Blahbitty blah blah Nurse Practioner yakkity schmakkity blah blah blip blip."

Me, to myself: "I don't care if you're the Queen of England, I'm not divulging PHI. You can go jump in a lake."

Me, in reality: "Well, maybe when you come pick him up, the doctor will still be here and you can ask him your questions."

I then very efficiently discharged the patient to the lobby. :D

Specializes in LTC.

Family Member: "Oh, okay, well I was just wondering because the doctor said he was going to order XYZ test, and I'm a Nurse Practitioner, and nobody ever came in and got blood."

:D

Remember those things in elementary school english where we had to pick what doesn't belong in this sentence. lol

Specializes in Critical Care.

These kind of people are annoying. A few months ago I had a patient who has an MD for a sister. When she came to visit the patient, instead of introducing herself as "Hi, I'm so and so, the patient's sister." I got "Hi, I'm Dr. So and So, how is he doing?" Never mentioned their relation, lol. At least she wasn't annoying and actually asked appropriate questions.

Specializes in Med/surg, L&D, ICU briefly, Informatics.

I had a family member/nurse practitioner ask me if we were going to tap her niece's 25 week gravid uterus and replace fluid because she had pneumonia and was at risk for being dehydrated. I wanted to ask her where she went to school and where she practiced so I could avoid both like the plague.

Specializes in MCH,NICU,NNsy,Educ,Village Nursing.

I do my best to HIDE the fact that I'm an RN when I or a family member is a patient....unless it seems to be to my/our advantage otherwise. I'd much rather be spoken to as a lay person that to have someone assume I know everything they're talking about. As another poster said, family member/patient first, nurse second

I just wish I could have seen the look on her face when she got there and the patient was waiting for her in the lobby. Oh well, I had fun imagining!

Specializes in psych, addictions, hospice, education.

As a mom who had a son hospitalized, for a perforated appendix, after seeing 3 doctors who missed it, I have another side to think about. He came close to death and lost over 50 pounds while we were trying to get appropriate treatment. I can tell you I was a pretty big PITA to the staff. I lost all objectivity and just became Mama Tiger for my son.

We PITA's are very big PITA's but sometimes it's all we can do to cling to the simple details when in our right minds we'd be more professional.

I try to keep that in mind when a family member, NP or not, is driving me nuts with what I see as ridiculous. I tend to cut them more slack than maybe I should, but I figure their stress is probably bigger than mine at the moment...

I'm sorry that happened to your son. That sounds awful.

And ya, the nonmaternal relative of a completely independent and capable grown man is equivalent to the mother of a kid with peritonitis. My bad! I'm such a heel....

Specializes in psych, addictions, hospice, education.

Wow, you didn't catch what I meant, Stargazer...

Well, not only am I a heel, but I must be dumb, too.

You know, in my ED, patients and family members are *always* calm and appropriate. Nobody is ever under stress, scared, or at less than their best. Gosh, I don't know what I'd do if I ever had to deal with anyone behaving otherwise....

Specializes in psych, addictions, hospice, education.

I'm on your side here, Gazer. I just presented another option to thinking.

Specializes in EMS, ED, Trauma, CEN, CPEN, TCRN.

It's a vent thread, folks ... sometimes people just need to have to have a vent thread! Yes, we know people can be less than stellar when under stress. I'm sure we all provide extraordinary and compassionate care anyway. :D Let's keep it from getting personal, okay? Thanks. :)

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