"For-profit" schools... As bad as they say?

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I was on another thread, and someone stated that they believe the reason someone hasn't passed their NCLEX was due to the fact that they must have gone to a for-profit school... Are they really as bad as they say?

The reason I'm asking is because I have applied to Galen College of Nursing, which is a for profit school... I applied knowing what they were, but also after doing my research.. They have a high pass rate, and offer job assistance, which could or could not be helpful. They are also going to be getting their NLN accreditation this June, but still...

Have any of you attended a for profit school, and if so, have you been able to find a job/ what was your experience on taking the NCLEX-RN?

Please, only people who have gone or who have second hand experience (ie, your friend, husband, wife, etc attended).

Also, please no negativity on this thread... I'm seeing more and more of it on AN :(

Thanks in advance guys and gals.

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
I wish! No, I graduate in 13 weeks. We are two weeks into the final semester. I graduate in mid-August, will do an NCLEX-RN review and then take the test. I had six semesters to complete, so I have been going strong for two years in nursing school (went during the summers). I plan to take the NXLEX at some point in the fall, like October or November.
Shew....I thought OMG! 13 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!! what are the programs coming to....:roflmao:

I feel better...good luck!!!

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
Esme I love your posts... I follow you on threads lol (I'm not a stalker!) I appreciate your info re this issue. I looked into the advisors at Galen, and most have a BA in education, and the rest have masters degrees in counseling. I feel confident in the homework I've done, and after talking to SAC, they did say Galen would be receiving accreditation in June (I talked to a guy from the SAC who is in charge of Galen's accreditation, not just an advisor from the college, so I feel good about things). Again, thanks for the mother hen advice, I'm glad you decided to reply to my thread :)

I wish you the best.....I have found information that the FL Galen has been seeking accreditation from SACS (Southern Association of Colleges and Schools‘ Commission on Colleges) since 2010.....and they remain unaccredited as of right now..... SACS doesn't mean that they are approved fro acceptance to the state or other states requirements. There have been for profit schools that graduate nurses and they cannot sit for boards. Buyer beware!

Just proceed with caution! Good Luck! Don't forget nursing assistance forum where we will ehlp with homework....((HUGS))

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Sorry.....Sac isn't the same as NLNAC

SAC is regional accreditation. SAC accreditation may help with transferring/following on with schools in your region. Going outside of your region though, I don't know how far SAC accreditation will take you.

NLNAC is national accreditation. Most graduate schools want applicants to come from schools with NLNAC (or CCNE) accreditation.

Shew....I thought OMG! 13 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!! what are the programs coming to....:roflmao:

I feel better...good luck!!!

lol, no problem. I should have been more clear. And, thank you! Looking forward to finally being done :)

I wish you the best.....I have found information that the FL Galen has been seeking accreditation from SACS (Southern Association of Colleges and Schools‘ Commission on Colleges) since 2010.....and they remain unaccredited as of right now..... SACS doesn't mean that they are approved fro acceptance to the state or other states requirements. There have been for profit schools that graduate nurses and they cannot sit for boards. Buyer beware!

Just proceed with caution! Good Luck! Don't forget nursing assistance forum where we will ehlp with homework....((HUGS))

They are accredited with Fl BON. I have spoken to someone with SACs, and Galen will be receiving accreditation in June of this year. I have followed up with several universities that accept the NUR credits from Galen for RN-BSN, as I already have the other pre-reqs from a cc. Thanks Esme!

Merihen:

Yes I realize that....just trying to help...I was going to attend Galen but when I called several colleges and universities, they told me the same thing....NO we will not accept any credits from Galen because they are not NLNAC accredited.

Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.
Merihen:

Yes I realize that....just trying to help...I was going to attend Galen but when I called several colleges and universities, they told me the same thing....NO we will not accept any credits from Galen because they are not NLNAC accredited.

I know--I was trying to help too :) I posted that for those who may not know what SAC or regional accreditation was. I didn't know about any other accreditations until I attended a school with regional accreditation (they eventually got CCNE).

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
They are accredited with Fl BON. I have spoken to someone with SACs, and Galen will be receiving accreditation in June of this year. I have followed up with several universities that accept the NUR credits from Galen for RN-BSN, as I already have the other pre-reqs from a cc. Thanks Esme!

It is clear that your decision has been made...I wish you the best!

this school has a good pass rate, and from what I've heard from hospitals and ltc they will hire Galen grads. I know of hospitals in the area that will not let the ccne and/ or nlnac accredited schools do clinical there, I think it's a hospital's choice and preference....

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but why would you go to a non-accredited school?

They're not even yet accredited by one of the major national accrediting bodies for institutions of higher education - they are in 'pending' status with the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, which could mean anything. Just because a state says they can grant degrees doesn't mean the degree is worth the paper it's printed on - and if they're not even accredited as an institution of higher learning, it's sort of not. You can't transfer those credits to most schools and some schools may not even recognize you have any sort of diploma.

I would say you're better off spending your hard-earned money at an accredited school - one accredited by the regional body AND the nursing school accreditors.

They are accredited with Fl BON. I have spoken to someone with SACs, and Galen will be receiving accreditation in June of this year. I have followed up with several universities that accept the NUR credits from Galen for RN-BSN, as I already have the other pre-reqs from a cc. Thanks Esme!

Being recognized by a BON or a state is not the same thing.

SAC is regional accreditation. SAC accreditation may help with transferring/following on with schools in your region. Going outside of your region though, I don't know how far SAC accreditation will take you.

NLNAC is national accreditation. Most graduate schools want applicants to come from schools with NLNAC (or CCNE) accreditation.

The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools is a nationally recognized accreditation board that states a particular school meets a certain standard in granting degrees OR in meeting educational requirements as established by the United States Department of Education and the Council for Higher Education Accreditation. What it does is prevents diploma mills (and I'm not saying Galen is one - I'm stating the purpose of the regional board) and unlicensed institutions calling themselves "schools". There are six such boards nationwide.

They don't grant based on major, they're a general accrediting body. And all regions are recognized nationwide (otherwise, grads from, say, UNC, couldn't go to school at UCLA - and if they're qualified, they can). It's an assurance that they meet the same basic requirements. They are divided by region because of the size of the country and the number of schools they supervise - from preschool to the highest levels of post-secondary education, they accredit them all.

You get what "you" put into it. I did University of Phoenix and Walden and gained not only essential real world know how in terms of workplace success but also colleagues from all around the world. I was hesitant at first and many discouraged me but I had nothing to lose since I was raising 3 sons.

I have no regrets from my for profit education- just a "few" student loans. Was it worth it? A resounding yes.

GO for it. You only live once and no one can walk in your shoes except you!

Cheers

Lexi

Phoenix and Walden are accredited. Galen is not. And while the schools you mention are for-profits, they're accredited.

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