"Don't waste your time getting your BSN..."

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People are always trying to tell me that I am going to waste my time by not stopping after getting my ASN. They say that getting your BSN just gets you management positions and that it does not pay more. I am going for my masters so I can be a CNM, so I have to have my BSN anyway but, how could it be true that a person with a BSN gets the same as a person with a ASN? (Aside from the fact that working in different dept can make a difference)

for every 10 people that say getting you bsn is a waste of time, there will be 10 more that would ask "why didn't you just get your bachelor's" if you got your adn.

that old saying that opinions are like fecal evacuation orifices, everyone's got one.

(or something along those lines.....)

actually i heard the saying as noses.....however your saying works as well lol.

i am getting my bsn to get off the floor, yes adn is a registered nurse both take the same test, however; there are other areas or nursing which may well open up with the bsn, with the network i work with there will be no extra pay. :melody:

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i am an rn with an adn, i have worked m/s, er, icu, charge positions, and supervision and can tell you there is not any difference in adn and bsn when it comes to staff nursing. in fact adns get more hands on during their schooling than bsns. there are really not that many more nursing oriented classes in the bsn program, but there are more "support" classes. i find the push for bsn entry level ridiculous, we all have to pass the same boards. i do not look down on anyone for pushing for increased education but i do look down on paying bsns more for doing the same job as adns.

i am an rn with an adn, i have worked m/s, er, icu, charge positions, and supervision and can tell you there is not any difference in adn and bsn when it comes to staff nursing.

yes, there is a differance in bsn and adn, more booklearning. the best rn is an aid which went to adn then on to the bsn or the diploma trained nurse. a streight through bsn has only books to rely on with little to no acutal patient contact.

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Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
Actually I heard the saying as noses.....however your saying works as well LOL.

The other word would have violated the TOS, and i've learned in the OR, not EVERYONE has those either lol.

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No education is wasted!!! ASN is core nursing skills training. BSN is advanced critical thinking nursing. The extra psych, advanced chem, pharmacology are worth the experience and make some concepts easier. The management and human resource classes are priceless if you are palnning on moving along.

G

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i am an rn with an adn, i have worked m/s, er, icu, charge positions, and supervision and can tell you there is not any difference in adn and bsn when it comes to staff nursing.

yes, there is a differance in bsn and adn, more booklearning. the best rn is an aid which went to adn then on to the bsn or the diploma trained nurse. a streight through bsn has only books to rely on with little to no acutal patient contact.

now this just isn't true. my b.s.n. program includes three years of clinicals, at about sixteen hours a week. i'm going to get just as much clinical time as anyone in an adn program.

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BY OTHER NURSES, no doubt.

Yes, absolutely. The division of the nursing profession by nurses has been written about by many in nursing books and nursing journals. In my experience, people often find any exuse for one-upmanship that they can. Good example: My husband is a CG Visual Effects Artist, and the other artists he works with often try to argue over who is superior over what software package they use!! (No, I'm not kidding.)

I'm not diminishing anyone in nursing, as there are great nurses of all educational backrounds...I just feel that a push for higher education would give people less of an excuse for these dumb one-upmanship games.

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no education is wasted!!! asn is core nursing skills training. bsn is advanced critical thinking nursing. the extra psych, advanced chem, pharmacology are worth the experience and make some concepts easier. the management and human resource classes are priceless if you are palnning on moving along.

g

i will agree no education is ever wasted, there is a better way to train nurses in my humble opnion.

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Would someone tell me what ADN is?

Associate Degree of Nursing :rolleyes:

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A streight through BSN has only books to rely on with little to no acutal patient contact.

Don't lump all BSN course content together. Just because one school does it a certain way doesn't mean they all do. I get a car load of pt contact and will continue to throughout my course. (BSN in RN)

Z

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A streight through BSN has only books to rely on with little to no acutal patient contact.

Don't lump all BSN course content together. Just because one school does it a certain way doesn't mean they all do. I get a car load of pt contact and will continue to throughout my course. (BSN in RN)

Z

I say pick what works for you, in my humble opinion, credentials are never bad as they allow you to move up the food chain. I have 4 secondary degrees and am working on my 5th.

I say the more you stand still..........the more you stand still:)

JMTOT,

Mike

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Also, don't forget about the ADN to MSN programs out there (137 of them).

Mike

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You are a wealth of info! Please post citations... I would like to read the information.

THanks,

SJ

Here it is :)

Nursing Education Perspectives, Jan-Feb 2005, v26, i1, pg 18

Grannynurse :balloons:

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