quint-essential?

Never saw it or the web site. I think many parents expecting HOM have pages like that now. I think they should have thought of all that before, huh?

Had The Money For The In-vitro To Get That Way, But Why Would They Expect To Need 15,000 Diapers For Five Kids And Not Have It Provided For Them?

On the original topic, I don't have a lot of respect or sympathy for these people. You knew you were having five babies. Grow up.

Exactly what I have been saying for years.

My db and sil had multiples with NO fertility treatments or drugs. Four kids under the age of 3. Two sets of twins. They have never asked for anything ever. Where I work, the pharmacy sells OTC drugs at very very cheap prices to employees and I will buy them baby tylenol, ibuprofen, etc. The hospital sells it at cost, .45 for Children's Tylenol and $2.50 for oral suspension ibuprofen. Name brand. How lucky am I?

I don't know the odds of doing fertility treatments and having multiples, but it seems high from what you hear on the news. Sorry to say, you made your bed now lie in it. (That's harsh isn't it?) I get sick of hearing "well, we did treatments, but we never thought we'd have more than one." Huh? Did your dr not explain this?

If this is the same couple, then the didn't do IVF, they did IUI. That costs me about $400.

And for most of us, the chance of multiples is low (don't have good enough eggs for one baby, let alone a few).

But this family (if it's the same) had 13 follicles and went ahead with the IUI anyway...

Oh that drives me nuts!

And you know who needs the money and the help? Families like the triplets I'm taking care of tonight ..... natural triplets and parents have 4 other children.

We had a family with IVF quads - they actually tried to take up a collection amongh the NURSES. Gives you an idea how much fun it was to take care of the kids while they were on the unit...

We had a family with IVF quads - they actually tried to take up a collection amongh the NURSES. Gives you an idea how much fun it was to take care of the kids while they were on the unit...

UGH, I bet!

It seems like the families that really do need the help never ask for it ..... and it's those families that the nurses buy clothes, blankets, etc for. It makes you want to help them out because they're just so humble and content with what they have and they don't ask for anything or expect anything. They're always so appreciative too .... they cry when things are given to the babies. Whereas these parents that ask for donations .... I doubt they're crying in appreciation.

What about the way these births are always called "miracles". Um, no. There was intervention allrighty, but it was medical, not divine. We don't go around calling the babies of women who produce sequential children without having the means to support them "miracles". What makes the offspring of these people any different?

They are called miracles because without intervention they wouldn't be here. It's a miracle for an infertile women to become a mom-in our eyes.

In a typical IVF, when you've slapped down 15,000-25,000 dollars for a single month-long procedure, you are easily swayed into accepting more than 2 or 3 embryos into your womb.

The REs who encourage, or allow women to have 6 or 10 embryos placed inside, or the RE who went along with an IUI when the couple had 13 follicles should be the real subject of criticism.

I can just say that after being infertile for so long, you go absolutely insane. Your inhibitions start dropping and you become just about ready to try and do anything.

We are a weak, susceptible bunch of women. We just want a baby...

They are called miracles because without intervention they wouldn't be here. It's a miracle for an infertile women to become a mom-in our eyes.

In a typical IVF, when you've slapped down 15,000-25,000 dollars for a single month-long procedure, you are easily swayed into accepting more than 2 or 3 embryos into your womb.

The REs who encourage, or allow women to have 6 or 10 embryos placed inside, or the RE who went along with an IUI when the couple had 13 follicles should be the real subject of criticism.

I can just say that after being infertile for so long, you go absolutely insane. Your inhibitions start dropping and you become just about ready to try and do anything.

We are a weak, susceptible bunch of women. We just want a baby...

cardiac, I didn't mean to make light of your struggle. I truly wish for you to know the joy of having a child.

I also never meant to imply that the babies themselves are not miracles. Just as babies who are conceived without the help of medical technology are miracles. The children are the miracles, not the means by which they were conceived.