Pureed Sweet & Sour Pork and other Reflections on LTC

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This is going to be a very rambling thread, full of brain farts and possibly unrelated comments. Feel free to enter your own. And please try to refrain from judgment - I'm venting.

I remember the first time I fed someone a pureed diet. The dietitian asked me how she did, and I answered, "She ate all of the brown stuff, half of the green stuff, and none of the white stuff." She broke up.

That stuff looks horrible to me, but we just put an anorexic COPDer on pureed - an experienced coworker, LPN, had the brainstorm - and she's eating up a storm. Feeding herself, even. My, to be so weak that chewing is difficult!

And all they ever ask me for is salt. One day I just started laughing and answered the resident, "Honey, I know. And you're never going to get any." She smiled and kept eating.

I hate force-feeding people. I mean, not anti-suffragist feeding tube down the nose stuff, but really forcing people to eat. They and nature KNOW it's time to give it up, but read those regulations! God forbid that anyone die in an SNF.

I'm sick of taking care of other people's demented, dying relations, particularly when the denial factor runs rampant. I had someone say to me about her 94-year-old mom who has in the past suffered fractures pof both hips and both legs - the COPDer - "Should I get her up and walking? I'm just not ready to see her in a wheelchair yet." No? Honey, get ready to see her in a coffin, because that's the next stop. The mom sleeps EOD, when the CO2 overwhelms her, and sleep most of the days it doesn't. Let the poor thing go!

We have a married couple with galloping Alzheimers and they no longer recognize anyone, let alone one another. Their kids want to take them home for a celebration of their 60th wedding anniversary. For whom are they celebrating? Certainly not the parents. Let go of them!

Administration has all drunk the Kool-aid. They believe in the regulations forced down our throats. We should be fighting to get back the right to put a restraint around the waist of someone who falls asleep in her wheelchair and then falls ass over teakettle to (in one case) break her neck. We always have one horribly facially bruised resident who did that. But the facilty - no facility -= is not willing to get the belt care-planned for and risk having the state cite a "pattern of restraint." We should be fighting for the right to keep people safe. The pendulum has swung too far in the other direction.

And aside from demented wanderers, most people, singles aside, could care for relatives as was done in the old days. And if the relatives were at home they wouldn't live as ridiculously long with as little function or quality of life as they now do.

I have one woman who is horribly demented - mutiple strokes and infarcts - and always frightened. She actually recognizes me now, because I talk to her and treat her kindly - most others aren't mean to her, they just ignore her - and we have to justify her Seroquel to the state. Since when are lawyers and legislators physicians?

The state's due any minute, so we have someone painting the trim on all of the doors because gouges in the paint can get us cited! Good golly, Miss Molly! Can we say, stretchers and wheelchairs and med carts and geri chairs smashing into things, oh my? Of all the unimportant bulldinky.

I'm sure I'll have more to add later. Please, express yourselves.

Specializes in GERIATRICS, DEMENTIA CARE, MED-SURG.

But seriously ...........what can we do to get the stupid regulations changed???????

But seriously ...........what can we do to get the stupid regulations changed???????

Our state's elected officials. But admins and DON's need to be on board, as well, and no one seems to want to speak up. I don't get it.

Specializes in GERIATRICS, DEMENTIA CARE, MED-SURG.

I really want to work for change, but don't know how or where to start.......

Specializes in MDS coordinator, hospice, ortho/ neuro.

I agree that the pendulum has swung rather far in the other direction.....but I was doing LTC when half the patients were zorked on Haldol, people used restraints on anything that moved and tied the patients to the rails in the hallways.

Sounds like the folks above you don't really understand the regs, they're just running scared with no understanding. But them regs are there because idiots did stuff that wasn't right and people got hurt....( gee, we never had any problems with patients smoking in bed before officer......)

Also sounds like someone needs to talk to the families about what they can / cannot realisitically expect. Let's face it, no one learns about this stuff ahead of time, and some famlies never get realistic.

But life ain't fair, the patients aren't there because they're easy deal with ( they'd be home if they had no problems) and the challenge is to cope creatively with the pile of lemons you've got to work with that day.

I also think that there's going to be a culture change in the next couple of decades, I just don't see the baby boomers putting up with life in the nursing home....and I don't see Medicare / medicaid staying solvent or paying for a lot of the stuff they're still willing to pay for now.

Specializes in GERIATRICS, DEMENTIA CARE, MED-SURG.

Seems like someone needs to draw up a senior citzens Bill of Rights.

Specializes in Nursing Home ,Dementia Care,Neurology..

I don't think we will see a change until we get rid of the blame and litigation culture that we are currently in.We are not as bad here as you are in the US but we have a 10 fold increase in pointless paperwork because we have to be "seen to be doing" (a phrase that really gets up my nose!) Lay people watch tv and see people being resusitated and ,next minute, walking about and they think it is that simple. The guilt that keeps them from letting their loved ones die with dignity. We often complain that our Home doctor is very reluctant to treat the residents once they get to a certain stage but maybe he has the right idea, letting them go with some dignity.

BTW Sue,love the

"Orient those with no memory-making abilities left. Right-o. I'll get right on that, assclown administrator. "

Would love to be able to say that but would probably provoke either a sacking or a heart attack!

BTW Sue,love the

"Orient those with no memory-making abilities left. Right-o. I'll get right on that, assclown administrator. "

Would love to be able to say that but would probably provoke either a sacking or a heart attack!

You MUST see "Office Space," an incrediby funny 80's movie about corporate life and a guy who decides he doesn't care if they fire him or not and becomes the company's golden boy. Hysterical.

I agree that the pendulum has swung rather far in the other direction.....but I was doing LTC when half the patients were zorked on Haldol, people used restraints on anything that moved and tied the patients to the rails in the hallways.

Sounds like the folks above you don't really understand the regs, they're just running scared with no understanding. But them regs are there because idiots did stuff that wasn't right and people got hurt

I hear you on the above but, Fluffwad, the regs are understood. But "the right to fall," as Starnite mentioned, is what the state goes by and if they see a pattern of restraints, even as sensible as geri-chairs and Posey belts, you will be investigated and cited and you'd better have documentation out the butt - every 30 minute checks on each resident - to prove yourself up. Yeah, on top of the daily Medicaid notes and 40 person med passes and trundling folks off to dialysis - the admins don't want to restrain anyone at all.

Finally some people who are thinking the same way I am!! For a minute I thought I was weird for my thoughts on ltc healthcare.

Thank you Suesquatch---I hear you loudly and clearly. Amen!

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