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In a discussion I had with my brother in law today (who is a future nurse!), I learned he is uncomfortable with public breastfeeding unless there is a blanket involved. I know some folks wouldn't even like it with a blanket! I strongly feel that, as nurses, we should be doing what we can to support and advocate for breastfeeding and shed it in a positive light. I couldn't believe that a health care professional would feel differently. Obviously, this is coming from the United States (sigh).

I'm someone that usually works to make people feel comfortable in situations, but if my baby needs to be fed and some guy doesn't like it, well then he doesn't have to look! My baby comes first. That's how I feel about it. Guys will say that we shouldn't expose our breasts because they are too sexual, then agree that breastfeeding isn't sexual, but still say that we should hide it.....I cannot follow the circular reasoning.

I want to raise sons who know that breasts, as sexually appealing as they may be to them when they are older, are made to feed babies. That a uterus carries babies and lady partss birth them. I believe that this gives men a truer, deeper respect for women and for all human beings ... our bodies are not just sex objects! I saw a funny T-shirt that said -- Breasts: Not just for selling cars anymore!

I wanted to see what other nurses thought about this, on a personal level as well as a public health level.

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Sure. But certain things in public are a given and I can deal with. I DON'T expect to see a couple copulating at the mall, therefore I feel comfortable taking my kids there. I DON'T expect to see nudity at the mall, therefore I feel comfortable taking my kids there. Because of this, I wouldn't take my kids to see Mediaography, or to a nudist beach, or to Mardi Gras, or to a bar, because the liklihood of them seeing something I don't want them to is high. But I should be able to reasonably expect that at a mall on a Sunday afternoon I wouldn't see that kind of stuff, you know?

Again, this is why the upset with Janet Jackson. Nobody expects to see a boob during a football game. Its hard enough to censor what your kids are exposed to, on top of now being on alert during things that wouldn't NORMALLY have that kind of content...

YOu simply cannot compare Janet Jackson's antics or public sex to normal and natural breastfeeding in public. I can't believe my eyes. It's not even the same thing. Again, all this from an OB nurse really does surprise me.

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Sure. But certain things in public are a given and I can deal with. I DON'T expect to see a couple copulating at the mall, therefore I feel comfortable taking my kids there. I DON'T expect to see nudity at the mall, therefore I feel comfortable taking my kids there. Because of this, I wouldn't take my kids to see Mediaography, or to a nudist beach, or to Mardi Gras, or to a bar, because the liklihood of them seeing something I don't want them to is high. But I should be able to reasonably expect that at a mall on a Sunday afternoon I wouldn't see that kind of stuff, you know?

Again, this is why the upset with Janet Jackson. Nobody expects to see a boob during a football game. Its hard enough to censor what your kids are exposed to, on top of now being on alert during things that wouldn't NORMALLY have that kind of content...

Two things, the slang "boob" usually refers to the sexual nature of breasts, so I don't believe it is appropriate to use during a discussion on breastfeeding, but it is obvious that you feel otherwise. And second, copulating in public is illegal, and so is running around naked. They aren't apt comparisons.

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And I guess you just are going to ignore the fact that twice now I have said that I don't understand why some women aren't more discrete, but I guess acknowledging that might prove that I'm not trying to stir people up, so I can understand why you're glossing right over what's plain for all to see.

I think when she said "unless you're trying to stir things up" she meant you in the general sense.

I think we need to clarify here, there are 3 camps:

*Those who don't like breastfeeding PERIOD

*Those who support breastfeeding but discretely (and most women are discrete)

*Those who support breastfeeding INdiscretely and don't care what's exposed to whom.

I think most of us are in the second category, really. And yes, most women are discrete. But it's the few who clearly do whip out both breasts and feed very INdiscretely as if to make a point, and then yes I wonder about her, if she's truly breastfeeding for her baby of if she's using the baby to further an agenda.

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Two things, the slang "boob" usually refers to the sexual nature of breasts, so I don't believe it is appropriate to use during a discussion on breastfeeding, but it is obvious that you feel otherwise. .

Um, I referred to Janet Jackson's BOOB during SuperBowl. That was definitely a boob and not a breastfeeding breast. So I agree with your distinctions.

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I agree w/Mercy. Calling them "boobs" really sets the tone here, for the wrong message regarding the natural and normal act of breastfeeding and adds ZERO to the discussion.

I can't understand why we can't separate the issues at all in our country. We heard from a lady in Germany where it's not a problem there---why the HUGE disparity? I just dont' get it and don't get why why we cant' get past this here.

First of all, I have to get this off my chest:

Discreet: marked by prudence or modesty and wise self-restraint

Discrete: separate and distinct

There are at least two DISCRETE factions here on allnurses in the discussion of DISCREET breastfeeding.

:chuckle

My opinion, babies need to be fed, and they don't need to be fed in the restroom. My 16-year-old son understands breastfeeding and doesn't stare, so other boys can learn if you teach them. Breastfeeding is not Mediaography.

Thank God I breastfeed my kids 15 years ago when people were much less judgemental about this. If anyone said anything about me breastfeeding, it was to tell me how delightful it was to see a mom doing that (mostly I heard this from elderly men and women). I never heard a single word against it, nor saw any disapproving looks.

It's FOOD. It's necessary for human life.

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I But it's the few who clearly do whip out both breasts and feed very INdiscretely as if to make a point, and then yes I wonder about her, if she's truly breastfeeding for her baby of if she's using the baby to further an agenda.

You are calling them "boobs" here too...

It's not about an agenda, but about feeding a child for heaven's sake.

Actually, there are still places in the United States where women who breastfeed are asked to leave public places and some are even issued citations, so I would have to disagree with your assertion that "request" is an appropriate word. And I guess you just are going to ignore the fact that twice now I have said that I don't understand why some women aren't more discrete, but I guess acknowledging that might prove that I'm not trying to stir people up, so I can understand why you're glossing right over what's plain for all to see.

I'm sorry if I didn't notice you specifically making a point in two posts in 6 pages of thread....truly, that was not intentional....just hard to keep up with who said what....I was responding to the specific post I quoted. And re-reading your post...I misread the last line (didn't see the don't)

The law is on a woman who is breastfeeding's side....no one can insist that you leave... and I wasn't even talking about insisting they leave...I was going on my perception (which I know know was wrong) on your phrase about insisting they be discrete.

Peace...I mean it, :)

Cathie

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Even though I do think that breastfeeding in public can be done discreetly. There is no need for both boobs to be hanging out all over the place-that just invites gawking and makes me wonder about the breastfeeding mother.

Exactly. That is my stance.

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First of all, I have to get this off my chest:

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NO pun intended, right?:rotfl:

sorry just had to infuse some humor here...plus, it's a full moon. (not the butt kind rofl)

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Honestly how many women do you see breastfeeding who leave both breasts hanging out "all over the place"? really?

NO pun intended, right?:rotfl:

sorry just had to infuse some humor here...plus, it's a full moon. (not the butt kind rofl)

:p Actually, yes, it was intended (and a little humor never hurts!)

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