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Yesterday I worked an agency nurse shift for a hospital I had never been to. This was my first shift for the second agency I just signed up with. I was supposed to be telemetry, but was sent to Med/Surg. I started out with 7 pts, ended up with 8! The charge nurse doesn't even sign off orders there. There was one CNA to 12 pts, you had to write your own new medication orders on the MARs, and the place was a zoo!
I worked with a really nice CNA who said it's always like this, and that the agency nurse from yesterday, who had gone to hospitals all over the state, said this was the worst hospital she's ever been to. It's a for profit hospital, I was told. I told the agency that I'd never go there again. All the nurses there said that all agency nurses said the same thing.
One thing I noticed is that there are mostly foreign nurses there. They were from various places, India, Philippines, Africa. I had never seen so many foreign nurses.
Yes, I'm convinced, the importation of foreign nurses is a means to undercut the bargaining power of the American nurse, keep working conditions sub par, and keep profits margins up.
Let me add that I have nothing but respect for foreign nurses, but nevertheless I'm opposed to the importation of them for a nursing 'shortage' that only exists because American nurses won't work in deplorable conditions such as I saw yesterday.
I know a bunch of new grads with no jobs please let me know where the shortage of nurses is.by the way foreign nurse get paid the same amount as we.
The salary of a Filipino nurse is 300:yeah: dollars in philippines a month and there is a competition for it.
All i want from them is to at least speak english so we could tell the ignorant ones from the smart ones.:argue:
You sound more like an ignorant than any filipino nurse (weather they speak english or not) I know.
Some people are just insecure because of their incompetent as nurses.:down:
Yesterday I worked an agency nurse shift for a hospital I had never been to. This was my first shift for the second agency I just signed up with. I was supposed to be telemetry, but was sent to Med/Surg. I started out with 7 pts, ended up with 8! The charge nurse doesn't even sign off orders there. There was one CNA to 12 pts, you had to write your own new medication orders on the MARs, and the place was a zoo!I worked with a really nice CNA who said it's always like this, and that the agency nurse from yesterday, who had gone to hospitals all over the state, said this was the worst hospital she's ever been to. It's a for profit hospital, I was told. I told the agency that I'd never go there again. All the nurses there said that all agency nurses said the same thing.
One thing I noticed is that there are mostly foreign nurses there. They were from various places, India, Philippines, Africa. I had never seen so many foreign nurses.
Yes, I'm convinced, the importation of foreign nurses is a means to undercut the bargaining power of the American nurse, keep working conditions sub par, and keep profits margins up.
Let me add that I have nothing but respect for foreign nurses, but nevertheless I'm opposed to the importation of them for a nursing 'shortage' that only exists because American nurses won't work in deplorable conditions such as I saw yesterday.
Did you by any chance work at my hospital? Sound EXACTLY like the hospital I work in, but I love my foreign nurses...I hear all the really great stories and they have so many interresting experiences as nurses and have worked all over the world...but it sound like you worked in my hosp. Hand writinng the MAR's, nothing is organized and is total chaos? That's my life
The salary of a Filipino nurse is 300:yeah: dollars in philippines a month and there is a competition for it.
Are you saying that's a good thing?
Inability to speak English doesn't make someone ignorant. The smartest girl in my nursing class was from Uzbekistan, and spoke little English.All i want from them is to at least speak english so we could tell the ignorant ones from the smart ones.:argue:
In the UK we often work to this ratio. Its not a bad thing, its not dangerous, its the norm. I can work to this ratio no bother at all. I am a good nurse and a safe nurse.
I will still get all my work done and have a chance to talk and have a laugh with my patients.
Not all will be independant with different levels of care required. Some will be very unwell. I still work well to a high standard of care within hospital policies.
You imply that foreign nurses working to this ration are dangerous, but this is not the case at all.
In the majority of other countries,nurses are underpaid,overworked,disrespected by the docs,and the society in general.
Actually in the majority of countries nursing is not even considered a prestigious position,like here in the United States.
In the majority of countries nurses dont have nursing assistants.They have to deal with this B.S on daily bases,so can you really blame them when they come here and feel appreciated?
I know a bunch of new grads with no jobs please let me know where the shortage of nurses is.by the way foreign nurse get paid the same amount as we.
The salary of a Filipino nurse is 300:yeah: dollars in philippines a month and there is a competition for it.
All i want from them is to at least speak english so we could tell the ignorant ones from the smart ones.:argue:
But arent you the ignorant one for not be able to recognize between their accent and the actual level of understanding english,just some food for thought.
After the foreign nurses have been here a while they will get greedy and demanding like usarrogant lazy home grown nurses, then the playing field will be more even
yes,this is definitely the negative effect of running with the "bad",that is why the goverment is actually shooting it self in the head.
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I'm not a foreigh nurse,but please stop blaming foreign nurses.It is not their fault,the greedy healthcare system is to blame.
Plus really I wouldnt worry about foreign nurses.
The only thing that I would be really concern is this big flood of people who often without calling at all or even like for a medical field trying to enter nursing program and a lot of them make awful nurses.Sorry but I have to get this of my chest,it has been bothering me for a while now when I overhear some of the converstation of my fellow nurses like the other girlswere talking the other day of "how they cant wait to finish this stupid program,they just want to make money".
Nursing is not about being foreign.
You know I would rather choose a good,nice foreign nurse to take care of me than some prissy,arrogant U.S born nurse.
I know people are threatened by uknown, and discrimination is always been there but people shouldnt promote it,especially nurses