catsmeow1972 replied to CrazygymNurse's topic in Nurses Recovery
For starters, yes the FBON is dang near impossible to get a hold of. If you actually get a live voice on the phone to ask your question to, you may get transferred to the voice mail of the ambassador...
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
I think I have a personal disconnect because there was nothing I chose to do that got me a ride on this boat. I did not choose my illness. I am suffering consequences for a choice I did not make....
I do agree with the not waiting until you get the job offer because that does sound like a bait and switch. I also had "the perfect job" complete with salary offer signed and benifits info in the...
I don't bring up the contract until well into the interview if not even until the end. This gives me time to decide if I even want the the job. To me, that time is as much about me deciding if I want...
Oh it totally is. I got stuck with the key restriction because they write the contracts (which I'm pretty sure are all the same anyway since they are all in bed together) based on the...
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
Ah, I do see. I greatly appreciate your words. This guy you were responding to seems to be the one that is wayyyyyy over simplifying the issue. He seems to think it is a case of "addiction is a...
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
All of which makes sense in the science of things, in obesity and substance use, abuse whether it be drugs, alcohol, nicotine or cupcakes. The issue at hand however is that the programs blithely...
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
Spanked has an extremely good point. What is it about us nurses that nursing becomes our life. There is going out for breakfast after the night shift with our fellow nurses, etc. Instead of people who...
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
The 5 day ones seem to frequently be the precursor to holding you hostage long enough to find out if there's $$$ to be had. In my case it was claimed to be for "neuropsychiatric testing" but in...
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
Sometimes I think it's not so much at not being able to drink in front of friends, or even not being able to drink at all, as it is that OP is being told that she cannot by a faceless organization and...
catsmeow1972 replied to SpankedInPittsburgh's topic in Nurses Recovery
You were fed? This ****hole dragged us to the grocery store of thier choosing once a week, gave you money and 30 min to shop. You know that money came out of what you were paying them
Vent all you need to. I see so much of myself in your words. From the taking of a nightmare job because it was the only one I could get because the existence of IPN slammed so many doors in my face to...
catsmeow1972 replied to SpankedInPittsburgh's topic in Nurses Recovery
Nor should the program have such a strict say in who you go to for an evaluation. I should think it fine to require that an evaluation be done by someone with certain credentials such as psychiatric,...
catsmeow1972 replied to SpankedInPittsburgh's topic in Nurses Recovery
That's the whole crux of this thing. Take away the "one size fits all", the abuse of power, the nonexistent ethics and money sucking attributes. Add in the use of the evidence based practice that we...
These programs have become all about the money. These things are a one size fits all method of sucking money from a person. The result is generally one of two things...creating problems that were...
catsmeow1972 replied to SpankedInPittsburgh's topic in Nurses Recovery
If any more proof that these things are a pure money suck, I have been in more than one small group due to relocations because of crappy jobs that were the only thing I could get. In one group in...
I did not sign any releases for my medical info prior to the ‘evaluation'. Of course with that, language was invented to justify the need for rehab and monitoring, as with most of
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
That honestly is sad. I think it shows two things though. One: there is a place for these kind of programs. When not used as a tool of profiteering and abuse, there is a way for it to be genuinely...
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
Seeing as how the "mission" of these outfits is to "provide for a safe re-entry into nursing practice", yeah working in nursing is required. Downside is sometimes rather onerous stipulations are...
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
There's nothing "in depth and accurate" about any of this trash. As long as the whole evaluation process is controlled by the same people who issue the contracts and the evaluators they send you to...
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
This ^^^^ Additionally, I would avoid like the plague, anything that claims to have a ‘professionals program.' You can bet that would be the treatment factory associated with the NC program. My...
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
Even when you ask these places what thier success rate is, they'll tell you "oh we have a really high success rate. Our clients don't drink/drug while in our program." Well duh. How about follow up?...
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
In my personal experience the evaluators that I have had the misfortune of being exposed to had ZERO psychiatric/psychological training. Thier qualification for doing these things seemed to be an MD...
catsmeow1972 replied to Nursebry91's topic in Nurses Recovery
As best I can tell, contracts seem to require that you only work as a nurse for 12 months of the duration of the contract. Given the difficulty that many have of finding a job with the restrictions...