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MotoMonkey is a BSN, RN and specializes in ED.

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    Unfair Clinical Evaluations

    And I mine. If we all had the same views and opinions this would be one large and boring sounding chamber.
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    Unfair Clinical Evaluations

    I certainly agree that there are two sides. We never have the benefit of seeing a clear picture of both sides. I am just trying to play the devils advocate and point out that the OP may not be a socially inept jerk who is trying to undermine their nurse. But rather a human that is trying to navigate this new culture and system they have been thrown into. The system sucks in both directions and the people who are making the decision to put this system in place are not the ones being burdened by it. I think that both staff and students should be speaking up and trying to change the system for the better rather than misplacing their frustration and bitter feelings on each other. Though that is a topic for another day and another thread.
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    Unfair Clinical Evaluations

    I am not the OP, simply commenting on the rhetoric I see going back and forth on this thread, thanks though.
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    Unfair Clinical Evaluations

    Let me, once again, try to get this all straight. Because there is a less than ideal system it is ok for frustrated nurses to punish students or treat them with less respect? Students who do not have a choice as to the nurse they are stuck with or the facility and unit they need to learn on. That is what I am getting out of this. Few acknowledge a lack of professionalism or common courtesy from the nurse who wont have an adult conversation with the student that was assigned to them but rather leaves poor evaluations after the fact. But many are quick to label the student, who has not been in the clinical setting for a decade and is trying to feel out how to act in these clinical situations, as a "jerk" or as someone who lacks social skills and self awareness. Talk about nurses eating their young.
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    Unfair Clinical Evaluations

    Sure, the system may be a problem. Though I would have been very frustrated with my education if I had to wait for my instructor in order to complete med passes, do procedures, or ask questions. With one instructor overseeing eight students there would be no way that all eight students would have rich or engaging learning experiences if they were all waiting for one person. All of this is, however, beside the point. No matter the problems of the system, we should all be able to agree that a nurse potentially taking out their frustration on a student is wrong, and not speaking directly with a student if they feel there is a problem is also wrong. I would expect my manager, charge nurse, or peers to address me directly if I was acting inappropriately, I would feel terrible if no one said anything until a yearly review. I think students deserve the same level of professional courtesy and respect.
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    Unfair Clinical Evaluations

    I really feel for you here. I was lucky to work with some really exceptional nurses while doing clinicals in school. I had the opportunity to learn from people that really wanted to teach nursing students. But I also had the opposite experiences and just had to keep my head down and try to get through the day. At some facilities nurses are simply told they will have a student assigned to them, they don't volunteer for this and they are not asked. I think that this practice leads to some nurses feeling resentment towards the student that they are assigned to work with. I can totally understand it from their perspective, having a student is one more thing to keep track of and watch over, it is extra work and slows down their flow. Reading through your post I didn't see anything overtly egregious, maybe your timing could have been better when asking questions or making comments but I have been in similar situations and was able to ask questions which lead to great discussions and learning opportunities. Lastly, even if you were totally inappropriate in your actions, the nurses you work with should talk with you directly about what is going on well before they ever write it in a review. As nurses we are professionals trained in navigating difficult and uncomfortable conversations, if they are not discussing these areas of improvement with you directly and instead passive aggressively writing them in your evaluation I think its cowardice and shows a lack of professionalism on their part.
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    Can I be a nurse without majoring in BSN?

    As others have said, in order to become a nurse you have to go through a nursing program. Whether you decide to pursue an associates in nursing or a bachelors in nursing the programs will be incredibly competitive. You will be applying against individuals with previous healthcare experience and whose GPA sits close to 4.0. I recommend researching all the colleges and universities with nursing programs that you could potentially apply to, look into the prerequisites of the programs and try to figure out if the admissions team looks at cumulative GPA or if they only look at the GPA from your prerequisite coursework. Once you know what they are looking for in a qualified program applicant, start taking the prerequisites that are required to get into the programs you are interested in. But again, be prepared for nursing programs to be incredibly competitive, where I went to school it was very common for someone to retake a prerequisite class if they received anything less than an A. This is not to scare you or deter you from pursuing a nursing degree, but to simply prepare you for the realities of getting into nursing schools and to let you know that you will have to be vigilant about your GPA.
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    Worried about applying to bsn program

    I would look to see if they post yearly statistics of average accepted GPA and average TEAS scores. That is really the only way to know how competitive you need to be. I would say that a prerequisite GPA of 3.85 is generally competitive, however I don't know if or how your school weights individual classes. As an example, some universities look down more strongly on a B in anatomy and physiology than they would a B in math or nutrition. At the end of the day, if you have completed the prerequisites, taken the TEAS, and have met all other minimum qualifications for the program, I would apply. The number and quality of qualified candidates changes each year. You have already come this far and really have nothing to lose by applying, aside from the application fee.
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    Student externship in ICU requires prior experience?

    To start, there is usually an externship coordinator for hospitals that have these programs, I would call them and ask exactly what they mean by "must have prior ICU coursework and experience." Here we can only give our best guess, speculation, and assumption. I also went to a school that was this way. I found it helpful to talk to my advisor (who at my school was a member of our nursing faculty) and discuss what kind of clinical experiences I hoped to have and the kind of areas I hoped to work after graduation. I certainly did not get every clinical placement in critical care, but I did get some That could still be luck of the draw, but I like to think it was because I showed aptitude towards that area of nursing and I showed interest in having those clinical experiences.
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    Is Nursing Dangerous?

    I am curious where these thoughts are coming from? Is it the portrayal of nurses in media, or is there someone in your life that has told you these things? I don't mean to come off as rude or condescending but this seems to be a pretty naive view of the nursing profession as a whole. This makes it sound as though you think that nurses NOT injured on the job are the minority of nurses. If the majority of nurses were injured so badly as to never be able to work again after five years on the job it would be unsustainable and there would be huge government investigations to understand why hundreds of thousands of nurses are being disabled every year while on the job. Yes being a nurse comes with a level of risk and there is the potential to be injured on the job through various means. However, nursing is not some wild west profession where you're losing coworkers left and right from unavoidable injuries. There are systems in place to minimize the potential for workplace injuries. Hospitals use lift teams, or mechanical lifting devices to help protect nurses backs. There are systems and standard procedures in place to help protect nurses from exposure to illness and blood born pathogens. As a nurse shift work is the norm and while you may start on nights, there will be opportunities to move away from that shift. As far as standing, I would rather have a job where I am often standing and walking compared to a job where I sit for eight hours a day.
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    School making me repeat a course. Help

    I agree with the post above. From what you said you were suspended for academic integrity issues and had to take an APA course before being considered for readmission. To me this sounds like you had a problem with plagiarism of some form and were suspended on those grounds, though I could be wrong, I am reading between the lines here so to speak. I don't know that my school would have even readmitted a student who was dismissed for academic dishonesty. Regardless of all that, it sounds like you have jumped through all the proper hoops regarding your suspension and are ready to move forward. It sounds to me like the school is doing its best to set you up for success as you move forward in the program, they may be concerned that if, after a year away from school, they allow you to jump into the Primary Care II class, you may struggle academically or even fail the course. It would be a real shame for you to go through all the steps to be readmitted only to fail out your very first term. At $7,000 for a 6 credit class, I can certainly see why you would be upset having to retake it. But for those prices I have to imagine that this is not a brick and mortar state school, and therefore it may be incredibly difficult to transfer any or all of your credits. So the alternative would be to apply to another school, attempt to gain admission after being suspended for academic dishonesty from another program, and starting over. It doesn't seem like a great position to be in either way, but if it were me I would suck it up, jump through the hoops, keep my head down, and focus on the end goal.
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    I know of someone who was on the alternate list for the OHSU accelerated program. They were notified that they were accepted to the summer start cohort three weeks before the term started. I am not sure if that kind of thing happens for fall start programs or the traditional programs in general, but its always a possibility.
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    MEPN equivalent to ADN?

    The answer to this is very regional. In my area it is very difficult to get a job at most of the major hospitals without a BSN. The hospitals that do hire ADN's often have a base pay rate for nurses, if you have a BSN you essentially get an incentive bonus of a certain percent. In my opinion there are more opportunities for BSN prepared nurses especially if one desires to move into management positions or desires to pursue an advanced degree.
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    CNA vs. Nurse: Too saturated or huge need?

    This is exactly what I was coming to say. These days your application is reviewed by a computer system often before it is ever seen by a human. If you do not meet certain required qualifications or there is data missing, the system will simply spit out your application without ever sending it to HR. Look at how many of the screening questions you are having to mark as "No". It could simply be that you do not meet enough of the preferred qualifications to move forward in the process. I would look for positions where you can mark "yes" to as many of the qualifying questions as possible. I would also look closely at the job descriptions, make sure that your resume and what your write highlights what they are looking for. This may mean that for each job you make slight changes to your resume, which can be a pain, but it will help you to better align with the jobs you are applying to.
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    Question from a staff nurse

    I totally agree with Tonyl1234, let them do as much as they can. I am finishing my final practicum right now and I am extremely grateful for my preceptor. He has to supervise a lot of what I do, but as much as possible he sits back and allows me to take the reigns with the patient group. For me this means doing all of the charting, med pass, interventions, planning, talking with family, as well as talking with providers and other members of the healthcare team. Even when I am struggling or frustrated he lets me work through it and only intervenes when I ask for help. Allowing me to feel uncomfortable and to struggle has helped me to develop as an emerging nurse and has helped me to learn so much about time management, prioritization, and what being a nurse in this setting actually entails. I guess what I am trying to get at by giving my own example is to let the student, as much as possible and as much as you are comfortable, be the nurse. Let them experience all the little things that go into being a nurse in this setting, let them feel uncomfortable and let them struggle a little before you intervene. But also debrief after these moments, I think that is where a lot of great learning happens. Lastly, thank you for being excited to take a student. It makes a huge difference to have someone that wants to teach us and is mindful of our learning experience.
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    Failed AP + Lab

    I am not sure anyone here can give you an answer with any certainty. I would call or email my schools admissions office, or whoever deals with nursing specific admissions and ask them.