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Then the person responding to you is typical of most customer service representatives in most Boards of Nursing I find: if they don't know the answer they make one up. After talking with hundreds of people... maybe thousands of people over who knows how many years, not once has anyone ever said "I paid $7.95 for quick results and it was wrong." And why is that? Because they are not wrong. The results are termed unofficial results because only your BoN can get the results initially and determine whether to give you a license. Unofficial does not mean inaccurate.If it makes you feel better to think that it might be wrong go ahead... although it doesn't make much sense to me. It's a waste of time, you paid for accurate results and you got them. And of story.

When you pay $7.95 to Pearson Vue for Quick Results, of course it's accurate. It's what you PAID for. The "trick" that far too many people are enamored of is a game, and is NOT accurate. QR are unofficial but NOT inaccurate.

Well, OP, since you are clearly very knowledgeable on the topic and are quite certain that everyone responding to you is completely wrong....why don't you just do exactly what your friend is doing? From what you are saying, you seem to be the only one who knows what she's talking about....right? And when you apply to that online school and they tell you that you aren't eligible....or that you will be required to get yourself to live clinical sites.....don't say we didn't tell you. "Trust me"...we tried.

One more thought, OP: would you honestly be able to say that you would choose to have your child, spouse or parent under the care of someone who skipped courses, didn't attend clinicals, and might not be able to write intelligibly in English (so that others could follow the plan of care and understand the nursing notes and med orders)? Would you be ok with that?

SO MANY things wrong here: OP, you cannot do what you are trying to do, period. This is why you are having such a hard time. Online programs are designed for those who are already RNs to achieve a higher degree. You are not eligible. My strong suggestion would be to take a remedial English prep course to try to prepare yourself for the application process (including competencies in college-level English and math abilities). If your post is a decent indication of your language skills, you are not yet a candidate for an ADN program. Lastly, getting to lectures, labs, and clinical sites is your responsibility and "I don't drive" will not be an acceptable excuse; you will simply be dismissed from the program. You will need to arrange reliable transportation or your days as a student will be very short-lived indeed. In other words, OP: you have much to do in the way of learning to walk before you can run!

No. I am (extremely) well-versed in CAT systems and your assessment would be incorrect. A person who continues to receive questions is NOT "below the passing level"; more questions are asked because the candidate has been inconsistent regarding correctly answering questions above the passing level. IOW, someone who is close to the passing line (which can very well be above it as well as below it) but has not demonstrated to a 95% CERTAINTY that they are competent will continue to get questions until that confidence level is met. It does not mean they are consistently below passing; in fact, if they WERE consistently below passing....the exam would end, and they would fail. Getting more questions doesn't mean you have a greater likelihood of failing; the statistics don't bear that out as truth. Every candidate gets approximately 50% of their answers wrong, whether they answered 80 or 180 questions. It's the level of difficulty of the question that determines whether getting any question wrong matters....at the passing level, you ARE expected to get about half of them wrong. CAT continues to adjust questions based on previous questions. People will always have anxiety when their tests go higher and higher in number, that's human nature: everyone wants to be done, NOW! But if they keep a level head about themselves, it doesn't matter. People freak out far too often, and that's on THEM....not the test. As for all the rest about "the test changing next year"....EVERY year people speculate, listen to rumors and gossip, and have yet to be proven right by any of it. Internet is full of nonsense about NCLEX that can be put to rest if people would only go to NCSBN.org to read for themselves what the facts are. It's actually a pretty good read, if you're interested. I do not believe this test assessed my knowledge and I do believe there is a better way to assess a nurses competency. I hear their changing the exam to have a skills portion next year. I do understand what your saying about scaring people about the higher amount of questions. When my exam went past the minimum I did have to take a few deep breaths lol.

On what do you base this statement? There is no such fact saying that the more questions you get, the greater your chances of failing. Why scare people unnecessarily? Again...this is scaring people for no reason. People most certainly DO pass at 265 questions, it's not some weird anomaly, or even unusual. COMMON to pass at that number. People are deemed "competent" once they have met the 95% Confidence Interval prescribed for the exam. IOW, those who nail it and demonstrate that ability quickly can pass in the minimum. But someone who passes after another 10, 25, 100 questions is NO LESS COMPETENT than someone who passed in 75 questions. Good grief, we already have enough wars going on in which people who think that a second crack at the NCLEX indicates idiocy...do we really need to suggest that someone who passes in 80 questions is more competent than someone who passes in 90??

1. You have just attacked someone who only offered you suggestions on how YOU might avoid looking truly stupid upon your first appearance in nursing school. Not sure how you find a correlation between recognizing your poor attempt at humor as poor taste and poverty, but....I suspect HE isn't the one who will be living in poverty, drowning in debt because of an inability to work well with others. 2. Name-calling (loudmouth? Really?) is a signal to the population here that it isn't THEM who needs to grow up...it might just be the person tossing around the names. Consider that. Zooey, there is a LOOOooonnng road ahead of you, I suspect, based on not only your overreaction to a professor's testing style but your belief that a t-shirt like you describe would be a really good idea. A "must have" for nursing students...no. A "must NOT" is more like it. There is nothing professional in what you posted, and the reactions you got should clue you in to the fact that you really must make some changes in your attitude if you have ANY prayer of graduating this program. Honestly. It doesn't bode well for you at all unless you do.

Well, I guess it's good for students that some will :) As I said, I have done this, after a night shift that took 13 hours to complete. Would I do it ALOT? No. Would I do it once? Did, and had a nice time with a nice student. Not everyone will, but that's a good reason to ask an HR person or nurse recruiter for a name, as they might just know who would be more willing. A reasonable guess, anyway. NO guarantees, of course, but the student who doesn't ask DOES guarantee that no one will do it at all!

Cancer is a condition that creates a significant body of evidence, and recognizable, well-known adverse effects that CAN be managed (for some, for many) with monitored medical marijuana. NO doubt. But I'm curious about how the practitioners that prescribe marijuana for people who claim insomnia (and what qualifies as that, I wonder? How is it proven?) and anxiety (again...how is this measured by the practitioner?). Seems to me that the 18-34 year old male demographic could very easily choose such a "treatment" option if there is no actual proof required that the condition even exists! I wonder how well their prescribing practices would stand up on a medical audit.

Well, I guess the obvious answer is, "No". You must reach a 95% Confidence Interval in order for the test to end; the people whose exam concluded at 75 questions were able to reach a high enough level of questioning and maintain it to reach the 95% CI. I know it's all of one question more, but you didn't do so overwhelmingly well in the minimum number to have satisfied the 95% by that point. Doesn't mean you didn't do VERY well, and reach that 95% CI at the conclusion of #76. It's really not worth making yourself nuts over how many questions....it's meaningless, really. Do this: consider the kind of student you were in school, the grades you got, how you did on exams. Consider how you prepared for the NCLEX...how you did on the practice components. Consider your school's reputation in the community, and the passing rate for the school. Given all that....is it really more likely you bombed this thing, or aced it? Breathe :)

I have. Used to work nocs, and met with a student at 0800 after I gave report. SHE had coffee, *I* had orange juice, and after a half hour chat, we went our separate ways. Couple of years later she started on my unit.....I was charge nurse....and I imagine she was glad to have made the contact

On the point about non-nurses (let alone non-RNs) telling people they are nurses when they are not, I just finished with a patient...he told me he worked "in healthcare". Oh, what do you do? "I help physicians and nurses get their jobs done". Umm...ok....are you a nursing aide? "I'm like a medical coder". Now this is getting tiresome. So I ask "you are LIKE a medical coder? What is it that you do, exactly?" Answer: "I enter all the information into the computer". That's right: he's a data entry clerk. But to have him tell it, he's "in healthcare" and is vital in assisting physicians and nurses with their work. OH, and the best part? On the form he had to complete for me, it described his occupation as "Healthcare Professional". Any questions??

It "works" only insofar as most of the time the popup you get matches with the end result. Sometimes it doesn't (and this has happened more often in the last six months than ever before). Sometimes people pay for a new registration they don't need because they passed. Sometimes they couldn't pay, thought they passed...and then found out they failed. MOST of the time, the Magic 8 Ball Game gives the answer you want. And sometimes....no. To me, the only wonder I have over PVT is why anyone still does it! Then again, anxiety makes people do some VERY strange things...

Honestly, as long as the nursing school you attend has a great local reputation, that is all you need. If you want UPenn, of course, apply. Just realize that competition for new grad jobs is steep, and you might find that Ivy League degree VERY expensive in the long-run....paying off pricey student loans while your colleagues have little to no debt might color your opinion regarding the importance of a specific school. Just food for thought. Good luck wherever you choose to apply! :)

No one has disagreed with you on this. And, once again, no one is disagreeing with you. IF you have a legal prescription, you are not breaking your State's law by smoking. Where everyone is disagreeing with you is that your right to smoke does not trump the employer's right to not hire you--or fire you. They DO have that right...and courts will uphold it time and again. And, of course, anyone who maintains Federal employment recognizes Federal law...not State laws. Common sense is not up for debate here. What is being discussed is whether your legally-obtained prescription entitles you to smoke anywhere, anytime, without any consequences. It's not common sense, but rather the LAW that tells us this is NOT the case....you cannot smoke anytime, anywhere, without consequences. There are....and you are required to accept that if you accept the employment. You seem to be operating under the misconception that only nurses would be accountable for being impaired while at work, and that their legal use of certain prescription drugs could negatively impact other people. I'm pretty sure physicians would have the same liability, and accountability; no witch hunt in place for nurses alone. Same would be true of school bus drivers, long-haul truckers, and the list goes on. Nurses are not held to an exclusive rank of being restricted in their drug habits. Can only speak for myself, but online discussion isn't really exhausting....a 14 hour shift, well, THAT'S exhausting Clear?

What a strange mistake to have made. It is completely incorrect, I said nothing of the sort. What I SAID was: "People who have nursing licenses are supposed to be educated enough to recognize that if they want something to change, THEY should work on changing it--legally." That was my exact quote. Perhaps you misread it. Perhaps you are intentionally misrepresenting what I said. In any event....you are making false accusations....and anyone who DOES read what is written can see that. This forum is for "lively debate and discussion". Are you choosing to not do so?

And now we have officially devolved into nonsense. Do you have anything further to add to the discussion concerning marijuana laws and the State BoN.....or is this it? For the record, no one "destroyed their towns" over a confusing or twisted law. They "destroyed their towns" because of bad race relations. Not in the same debate, really.

And I thought you 'liked' all that

Putting aside for a moment the childish "blank blanks" (incorrect use of apostrophe removed), what is common sense to ME is that people should be expected to be able to follow the law as it is written, OR expect to handle the consequences. You don't have to like the law, but I don't think MOST of us are terribly CONFUSED by it. You don't like the law....you think it's a stupid law...ok. Got that. But it's not "ridiculous"....it serves a purpose. People who have nursing licenses are supposed to be educated enough to recognize that if they want something to change, THEY should work on changing it--legally. You can't just sit there and complain that "it's ridiculous" because you WANT it to be different. Inconsistencies from one law to another are common, no doubt. But confusing...? Not really.

So...you brought up a topic YOU wanted to discuss, and along the way tell us you like to throw out things just to see what reaction you'd get. When you GET the discussion...AND you get reactions....YOU get all huffy and want to drop the topic you started. Am I getting this right? Some people....what?

It's the statement below that made that connection....and why your credibility plummeted. In one breath you say that the laws (regarding marijuana) are confusing...and then point out people who are rioting. Indicating to anyone following a normal train of thought that you were connecting the two. Which, naturally, is ridiculous and allows those trying to follow the logic (illogic?) to dismiss it entirely.

That's all there was on that list; I have no doubt there's more pages with lots more info. But still pretty sure pot smoking is not a "protected" activity

This thread grows more absurd by the minute. Pinay, you aren't making much sense: you say that background checks are not legal (and of course they are). Then you say that you run them on your own employees (indicating, naturally, that you break the law frequently, OR that you have no real understanding of what you're doing). Which is it? And, as has been pointed out, the OP is not asking a question "about her profession". She's not asking about CNA work. She's asking a legal question that we cannot answer for her. What was your reason for posting, then, if not to annoy? OP, whether or not your shoplifting history affects your future employment is NOT a question a forum full of nurses (and in at least one case, NON-nurses) can answer for you. If you have a question about nursing...sure, we'll do our best to help. A question about legal intricacies and your background checks? Ask a lawyer.

I used to work for a place that liked to threaten new nurses by telling them (when they balked, naturally, at taking a ghastly assignment) that it was "patient abandonment" if they didn't take that assignment as is. Ummm...NO. They told the newbies that simply by clocking in, they had accepted the assignment, since the assignment was determined before they got there, so...yeah. Except that the charge nurse scheduling an assignment for anyone didn't mean that the nurse KNEW what the assignment was (unless, of course, she was some kind of psychic) and therefore they could NOT "accept" something they hadn't even SEEN! Back and forth, but I was one of the ones calling BS on that particular bullying tactic: if you TELL me what my assignment is, I can say "YES" or "NO WAY" and merely clocking in didn't do that. It meant I was there, as a condition of continuing my employment, on time and ready to take report. It didn't in and of itself constitute acceptance of whatever crud they were going to throw at me. YEESH!