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Looks like vanderbilt has a few dual programs http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/nursing/siteindex.html Good luck! Pat

Yep, it's all individual in terms of what one comes into a program having. I am one of the folks you elude to in the posts. The training is why I chose one over the other, everyone has different reasons. My part in the arguement has always been th...

Way too much of a generalization here. Just trying to keep you honest:) Pat, PA-C, RN, MPAS

I don't see any difference here. I think that this, as with any generalization is inaccurate. You will see places where PA's are more respected and places where NP's are more respected. That is personal preference stuff. No need for you to be wor...

You are right. The highly specialized programs such as midwife and CRNA have the edge here. But then again, you are locked into a specific type of practice unless you want to go back to school again. That's the beauty of FNP or PA, you can do anyth...

I didn't like nursing school. I thought it was a HUGE amount of "fluff" with very little substance. I also didn't like the professors at the university who were NP's, hadn't touched a patient in years, and were teaching us. They achieved critical ...

Basically an urgent care attached to an ER. I agree that this would be a good place. I suggest the ER as well, one that see's adults and kids. Pat, PA-C, MPAS, RN Hospitalist Physician Assistant

Illinois is not a great state to practice in as a PA. There are some states that are better for PA's, some are better for NP's. In Wisconsin, I'd say it's pretty friendly to both professions. We have many dual job postings popping up all the times...

This is a common arguement with no basis. NP's and PA's are clinician's who are required to make medical decisions about patients. RN's do not and are not trained to do that. Pre-training clinical hours do not substitute for in-training clinical h...

In my opinion, most NP's do not practice what they were trained for. NP's are trained for health promotion, teaching, and other social type things. Most NP's practice acute care MEDICINE. Most of the NP's I work with in acute care MEDICINE are not...

For clarification, an NP cannot practice independently in the OR. Pat

The clinical rotations during the NP and PA program is what really count. You are not a practitioner as an RN. I agree, RN or LPN experience should help you get into a PA or NP program and prepares you well, but does not substitute for training to ...

Sean, I agree with a lot of what you said but just have to clarify one of the things, just to be correct. Most (if not all, but I cannot confirm the all part) PA programs involve one year of full time clinicals. That is 12 month, usually about 50 w...

The only reason I could think of would be to obtain a more thorough medical education, although there are other, less intensive ways of doing that. Pat

Yes they can in two to three years, just like everybody else. No advanced standing, just probably favorable recognition in the admission process. Kind of what Danielle said. Pat

PA's have been gradually getting into England and Canada, but nowhere else except for US run third world country clinics. Actually, there is currently a program involving PA's spending time with doctors in England, as they are developing there own ...

Thanks! You don't want to be my patient, as you'd have to be admitted to the hospital :wink2: Take care, Pat

Hi, I do not use both licenses. I keep the RN license so I can tell the RN's that I am an RN :chuckle No, really, I feel it's something I've earned, and may need to use it someday (like to get into a DNP program if they take over the medical world...

AMEN! Pat

My comment is to mean that this poster has no idea what they are talking about. This is true. Also was and am an RN. In a recent survey of PA's, up to 30% said that they were RN's prior to going to PA school. Then, hopefully learning that a l...

I am a fully licensed RN, and I guess I didn't see the signs at the door! Ridiculous post, really. So, you want to live in a cave with no input from any of the other members of the vast healthcare system? I am here trying to be cordial, to learn,...

Thanks so much. This is how we work together at my establishment as well. Check out http://www.clinicanforum.com for more NP/PA harmony:D Pat

I think obesity and the failure to take responsibility for one's health does contribute to our poor health status as a country. Obviously, lack of access and lack of insurance for the working poor are other problems. Pat

I don't know of any docs who refer to us as subservient, but I'll bite. I have heard terms such as "collegial" for PA's versus "adversarial" for NP's from docs I work around. You sound a bit bitter. The 3 year old comment speaks loads about you, ...

Nope. That is a common arguement, but not supported in fact. Being a nurse does not substitute for training to be a clinician. I was an RN and then went to PA school, so I am familiar with this. Competency is individual, and cannot be generalized...