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Orca, can you define or explain a child defying gravity and walking backwards up a wall which was witnessed by the DCS worker and at least two professionals at the hospital they were taken to? No one said anything about rushing to a diagnosis but some things cant be explained through conventional methods.

Trac78 thanks for sharing. That must be an awful thing for her to suffer from. I agree that thinking outside of the box may be beneficial for some patients that medicine and therapy just doesn't help.

Thanks for the link. I will check it out. It is disturbing even to me as a Christian to think that demonic possession is possible but I do believe it is and I just wondered what make the chaplain at that hospital in Indiana say we need a priest for this situation. I understand now that it was probably the witnessed walking backwards up the wall and doing a flip/ defying gravity.

Offlabel that is what I'm trying to say. It often presents as a mental illness and that is why I posted it under psych nursing. I do not believe that every mental illness is the result of demonic possession. I understand it is rare but I was wondering what everyone's take was on the article I posted and if they had ever seen anything like it. I have said before and said again I do not like posting here a lot because if you are not in the core group that gets on here all the time you constantly get nitpicked and attacked for what you post. I was absolutely not trying to categorize all mental health patients as demonically possessed but pysch nurses would be the most experienced in seeing this sort of thing. My uncle was hospitalized in the 80's for schizophrenia and would often go catatonic and make horrifying claims and statements regarding religious situations. My dad said he went to visit him one time and the look in his eyes were pure evil. I love my uncle and treat him just like any other person in my family. I believe being around him my whole life has given me patience and understanding for people with mental illness that is life changing and debilitating.

I dont see how I could have possibly offended you by what subject i posted this topic in but let me elaborate further.... As a nurse I have had a patient that would go catatonic, not look anyone in the eye, randomly smacking people in the face including family members and nurses, saying odd religious statements repeatedly and other odd behaviors. She ended up leaving our floor to go to the PSYCH unit, so I am sure psych nurses have seen their fair share of things that im talking about. In regards to how this ties to the story I posted, the doctors could find nothing wrong with these children and the hospital chaplain referred the family to a priest for an exorcism. I didnt know if anyone had heard of that happening in their line of work. You can choose not to believe in external forces such as demons, but many people are spiritual people who believe there is much more to life that meets the eye and that demon possession is completely possible.

That whole mind reading thing would be so disturbing!

Zak Bagans' 'Demon House' movie warns, 'View at your own risk' This is just one link. There are multiple sources that a quick google search would turn up. I put it under pysch nursing since demon possession can be identified as a mental health condition. Any suggestions for another topic home for this?

So just in time for Halloween I was reading about a demon possessed house in Indiana by Latoya Ammons. Apparently this is well documented and involved her children. If you google the DCS report that was made after taking her kids to the emergency room to seek treatment for abnormal behavior such as levitating, growling, and harming each other the DCS worker and other professionals saw one of the children wall backwards up the wall and do a flip that was not compatible with gravity. What are your thoughts, psych nurses? Have you ever witnessed any demon possessions or exorcisms?

I hope this works out for you. You may need to hire an attorney but you haven't even had any action taken against you at this point so I'm not sure if that would be necessary. You could at least try to get in touch with an attorney. When working with some techs they often stand around while I'm doing something with the patient or tell me they will leave and come back if im doing something only I can do. Teamwork means each team member finding a share in the work. You could have made many different decisions such as help clean the patient up, pick up trash, get the new depends ready, get the bed in position for her to get back in it, but instead you went on break. That's on you and I think you realize that now.

As other people have said, no one got kicks from her mom's pain. Jahi never had a say whether she wanted her body to be kept alive for 5 years on a ventilator and artificial feedings because she was brain dead. We are rejoicing because her body has finally been laid to rest after years of denial and respect for her and everyone else best interests. What about the moms living children? They've been raised basically without her this whole time? I bet they needed her more than anything. And don't think that none of us have never lost somebody. Many of us have lost children, spouses, parents, and more. I think most of us can see when quality of life is more important than quantity.

Elkpark- yes, but I would think that after seeing her code, be pronounced brain dead by multiple doctors, spend almost 5 years being hooked up to life support, battling an infection all year, going into DIC and bleeding out would be enough for her mother to think maybe we should just let her die. But no, they coded her for two hours. Things like this just leave me with nothing else to say expect WTF. Oh and I forgot, perform surgery on a child that was pronounced dead years before.

Coded for over two hours? How is this having regard for her life or her best interests? That is the real tragedy here.

Mother: Girl at center of debate over brain death dies - ABC News Let's all take a minute to talk about the elephant in the room here. Why on earth, who on earth would operate on a child that's been brain dead for 5 years. We knew this wouldn't end well. Finally Jahi can rest in peace. My condolences to the family. And again, I came across this on my Facebook people; I don't obsessively stalk this family on the internet.

We are going through staffing cuts at my hospital. People are leaving left and right. Patients aren't getting proper care because nurses just don't have the time. It wears down on a person, especially when you come to work and want to give your patients the best but don't have the tools to do so. Administration can use whatever fancy words they want to but the bottom line is their salaries are at least 6 figures while the weight of patient care is placed on the back of the nurses and the burden keeps getting bigger. The other night I had an acute stroke on my shift, confused patient trying to climb out of bed and pulling everything off, blood pressure in the 180's with q1h intervention, blood transfusion, a family member with an emergency, a patient with s/s of sepsis and no tech. It was almost impossible for me and I consider myself a high performer.

Two words: float pool

As someone who has lost someone recently and played every scenario over and over in my head and thought, what if we did this instead of that. Sometimes the answer is people are just too sick, sometimes accidents happen, sometimes acute life-threatening illnesses happen to previosly healthy people. We will all die someday.

I live in the Midwest and have less than 5 years of nursing experience. I just took a just making around $95,000 before overtime. However, my previous job I made about half of that without overtime. I had a really nice opportunity handed to me. Can that afford me, my husband, kids, and animals "luxuries"? No, but we can be comfortable and not have to worry so much.

One of the worst reports I've witnessed and assisted in the subsequent code: obs floor was transferring a patient to the medical surgical floor. Last thing the obs RN told the receiving RN was that the patient was going into flash pulmonary edema. Apparently the receiving RN didn't know to question that and the patient arrived 20 minutes later, got pulled over into the bed, and literally coded.

As far as staying late, if it's an immediate need or concern for the patient, yes I will. But nursing is a 24 hour operation so some things can and should be passed on.

Left a patient and came back the next day to find the patient extremely confused, vital signs indicating severe sepsis, family members and night shift RN tell me patient was like that all night and no doctor was ever notified. Med student came into the room right after report and I reported my findings and she told me it wasn't a big deal so I paged the resident and said you need to come right now or I'm calling a rapid response. Unfortunately the patient had a perforated bowel and ended up dying. The issue that I believe took place is that the nurse I gave report to is known to try too hard to try to be every patient and family memeber's friend and actual medical needs get overlooked. This is where patient satisfaction surveys are failing our patients. If only the general population new the real story behind what a nurse should be doing...

LovingLife123, that's the thing is that I came in her room to assess her and see how I could help with her pain and nausea but wasnt even able to get to that point because she was going off on me about anything and everything. Thank you all for the words of wisdom. Something to consider for next time. I think I was just caught off guard because I wasn't expecting to be talked to like that so early in my shift! I have had a patient many years ago tell me that it was her right as a patient to have no pain and the doctors better give her some more pain medicine. I just don't know how people can be so misinformed. This is a country of I want what I want right now so I'm going to demand it now. Maybe it's a much larger social problem than this one incident, maybe my post-op patient was just having a hard time like previously stated and she did eventually apologize. I would just never dream of yelling at someone unwarranted, especially someone who made it known they were trying to help me.

Definitely agree with the Facebook thing. I am the type of person that likes to form relationships and wants to make sure my patients know I will do my best to take care of them for the 12 hours I was there. I guess it just had me so frustrated that I couldn't even begin to do that because she wouldn't let me get a word in edgewise. It is true like you said to let it roll of your back, which normally I can but she just got under my skin for some reason. I think she was a well-to-do person and had an unfortunate diagnosis, and it was almost like she felt entitled to be disease, pain, and nausea free immediately after her surgery.

Thought about posting this on Facebook but didn't think it would be well received, so I thought maybe my fellow nurses could relate. Yesterday I entered a patient's room with high hopes of reviewing the care plan, working on pain and nausea control, and going over post op instructions from the surgeon but instead was met with one complaint and one snarky remark after another without me so much as being able to get a word in. Eventually she apologized and I try to be understanding because I know nobody wants to have an illness and be in the hospital, but one thing she said stuck out to me. She said "I thought I came here so you guys could help me." That was before I had even gotten an assessment in, by the way. There is just this notion in America that anytime someone experiences pain, is diagnosed with a disease, or experience any type of discomfort the doctors and nurses will fix it. We are a death and disease denying culture. I wish healthcare wasn't advertised as a cure all but as a chance to have a better quality of life. Just had me feeling frustrated...

I read something recently that made perfect sense to me. It said something along the lines of "you are not your sexuality." If your students struggle I would tell them they are not defined by these struggles or urges. They have so much more time for their brain to develop, so much outside influence, and so so many hormones. I would tell them to just try to be themselves. Figure out what is important to them in life. That just because they have one thought or inclinication that doesn't mean to immediately draw a conclusion. If I continued doing everything I did when I was 13 and 14, I would not fit into society like I do today. Teenage brains are complex and ever changing. I would avoid labels and finalities because things change so quickly from one day to the next.

Hope you can get yot pain under control. You can buy Meriva on Amazon and there are actual clinical trials that state the benifits on it in managing inflammation and pain in RA. More and more doctors are recommending it. As far as CBD oil, I find it exciting that natural approaches are becoming more integrated into healthcare but I don't think it is a cure all or should be used without speaking to the PCP. I am looking forward to more research on it, especially in kids with seizure disorders and as adjunctive treatments for various other conditions.