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Possible 36 week delivery, hospital has no NICU
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Opening new unit
Pie in the sky dream: birthing tubs. But maybe there isn't THAT much equipment allotment left? Wireless Tele with water-safe monitors (even without birthing tubs, you can monitor your patients while they're in a shower if you have the telemetry box sealed outside the water area--such as in a plastic bag on an IV pole) have made for some AWESOME labors on my unit. I'd ask for those. Birthing balls are wonderful--so are rocking chairs. Steady devices are great for moving post-epidural patients. One other thing I wish we had on our unit: good heating pads. Without heating pads that get warm enough for use in labor, I've jerry-rigged infant heal warmers, towel-chux pad creations, and washcloths--heating pads (single-use, or re-usable with single-use covers) would save a lot of time.
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Postpartum Hemorrhage drills
At my facility, our educator would make jello and put it in ziplocs for drills is visually estimating bloodloss-- we also had drills in which we would weigh pads that had been soaked (water/food coloring), and had to find and use the reference sheets that are on our PPH carts. We were lucky enough to have a Noelle for the last drills (we had to wheel her to the OR because she had a PPH and then set up all the D&C equipment), but in previous drills we did not. Our educator would drill us through visual blood loss estimates (using the props described above), and would give us scenarios (varying VS, fundal checks, in some scenarios the MD was really responsive, in others not, so you could practice collaborating with other RNs), and then walk us back to the OR so we could set up for D&Cs. The hardest thing to replicate at my facility is pulling drugs (we had to have a special "practice profile" set up in our pyxis so we could practice pulling anticipatory drugs), labs (same, we always incorporate anticipatory lab supplies), and blood. The "getting blood from the blood bank" part of the drill is the only part that always ends up being written-only, and it's also the part we all feel rusty-est on in a real emergency.
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Documentation
At my facility we chart q30 for labor without pit, and q15 for pitocin, and q5 when pushing (regardless of pit or not). We also have an intermittent monitoring protocol for patients who are unmedicated (no pit, or fentanyl, or epidural, or anything), where they're monitored 20 minutes/hour, and then you end up charting FHTs only on that 20 minute strip. For antepartums, it depends on their monitoring orders--if they're being closely watched, then chart FHTs/CTX q hour, if they're on NSTs, then just the NSTs.
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I need confidence!!
Good for you! Know that preceptors don't generally give out that kind of praise very often. She's not crazy, and you're not crazy--you're good at what you do. Does it become less scary? Yes. Absolutely. Like, none of us would be able to survive L&D if we all hung on to the anxieties we had at the beginning. Things just become more familiar. But all the way not-scary? No. "Just another day at the office" is always going to carry some stress with it, because that's someone's sweet baby you're watching, and someone's sweet belly you're inducing. When I took my fetal monitoring course, it was really helpful--I'm very type-A, and having someone else back up and verify what I knew made me feel more confident when talking about strips (instead of asking if something was a late, I would talk myself through how deep it went, how long it took to get there, and how it fit into the variability of the strip--and that gives you your clinical picture). I became much less afraid of variables, and more able to defend interventions in the face of subtle late decels. Now that I have more experience, I know that it's the subtle changes--less variability, a high baseline, little lates--that are more telling than the big ones (like impressive-looking variables--now I see those and just think "that'll be a cool nuchal" instead of "PANIC"). My other major resource, when I was feeling the way you are now, was my co-workers. It really worked for me to joke about something ("ha ha ha, I know I'm paranoid"), and ask for help ("Do you have a moment? Could you look at XYZ section of the strip with me?"). If you know your preceptor is impressed with you, start with her. I promise, people would rather you be a "strip nazi" than not care. Also of comfort: babies don't live and die at the same time, so a sweet thing with good variability is not going to suddenly stop being oxygenated. And know that your reactions to recognized problems will get smoother, and calmer, and faster--I remember having a bit of a freak out when I was on my own and a baby of mine was in distress for the first time. Now, it feels just like a "mode" to switch into, where you stay very alert, and turn off the pit, on the O2, increase fluids, and turn the patient. It's like a math equation, and there's some comfort in the predictability. Welcome to OB! Time is going to be the biggest factor in your confidence level. You'll do awesome (just as you did in medsurg)!
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Your first OB clinical experience
There is absolutely a "shock value" that comes with L&D, especially if it's your first obstetric experience. I absolutely love women's health, and knew that going into L&D, and there was still an adjustment period--seeing my first birth was amazing (women are SO STRONG. I'm in awe), but I think it was around delivery 20-30 that I didn't have some degree of "OMG" when that head popped out. I still look away when episiotomies are cut--the sound bothers me, the physicians I work with sometimes do them when they aren't necessary, and I don't like it. That's not gonna change. For my first month, I would look away when they made the first cesarean cut (skin incision)--after that cut I was fine, but it did make me feel dizzy, my first time in an OR. It gets better. You get more used to it--and L&D is a very charged thing. Most people are affected by birth at some point in their adult lives (and obviously, everyone was "affected" by it as an infant), and there are lots of cultural rituals or beliefs around it. I know it sounds a little touchy-feely, but take a long, honest look at yourself and try to figure out what, exactly makes you so uncomfortable, and why. For me, I know one of the reasons I don't like seeing episiotomies is because I'm angry when they're inflicted without reason, and one of the reasons maternal mortality bothers me more than infant mortality is because I'm more directly afraid of it--thinking about these things made them seem more normal, and less emotional. You may have different reasons for being viscerally uncomfortable, but figuring out what they are will probably be helpful. And hey--if it's not your thing, it's not your thing. Get through these days, de-compress with a friend who also isn't that into OB, and soon enough, this clinical will be over and you'll never have to look back. :)
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Projects in your OB department
We just started offering birth classes at our hospital, and are increasing the number of tours we give per month. Our unit is in the middle of remodel, and we're gaining an LDR from that. In the last year we've added a "birth plan" to our tour packets (a list of statements people can circle/cross out/write in/edit and bring with them to the hospital, or just use to think about available options), and we're including statements in our classes and tours encouraging women to make their birth preferences/plans known, whether or not they're in writing. Our lactation department is growing, but not fast enough for our patient population--now we screen all babies for "high risk" lactation problems. If they're delivered by cesarean, premature, have any abnormalities, or if the mom is a first-time mother under 18, they're automatically seen during their stay, and if not, then lactation sees them by request and lactation support is offered by RNs. Our outpatient lactation program is also growing. Not directly related to patient care, but this year, in an attempt to bring our women's services department together as more of a "team", we're registered for the local March of Dimes event this year. The fundraising is fun, even if not everyone participates, and a I think the more unified staff behavior is making for happier nurses, and that affects patients, even if it's indirect.
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Most helpful orientation activity
We had lots of "drills" with our educator--she'd make jello and spread it on pads and have us guess amounts to demonstrate how hemorrhages are often underestimated, run mock codes, mock neonatal resuscitations, and role-playing common patient scenarios (poor coping, poor education, hostile family, etc). I was incredibly lucky when I started out, and landed a spot in a nursing residency--one of the things that really stuck out to me in the classes was how well emergencies were covered. It's rare for sure, but the first time I had to deliver a 26 week infant, take care of a hemorrhage, or saw HELLP lab values, I was really grateful that these rare-ish events were covered in my orientation, even if it was only in passing. It helped me to know what kind of help to ask more experienced nurses for. In terms of skills, my educator made sure the new grads got lots of IVs, SVEs, foley placements, and Leopolds practice, and really emphasized "flawless mastery of the basics". These, and the drills, were far and away the most helpful.
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Vanderbilt admits, what were your stats?
I had a 3.5 GPA, and GRE score of 158 verbal (I think?) and 155 for the math portion (I think? This was back in August, and all I remember was trying to make sure I had over 150 in both portions). I applied to the CNM/FNP dual program. So far I've been accepted into the CNM portion, but haven't heard back from the FNP department (it's possible to get into one, both, or neither with a dual application).
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dealing with the death of a baby
I can't answer this as a midwife (yet--just got accepted to start in Vandy's CNM/FNP program in Fall 2014), but I've been an L&D nurse for 2 years, and have seen several demises. Most of the demises I've seen have not been intrapartum--a woman comes into the office for her prenatal appointment, or into the office/hospital for decreased fetal movement, and there are no fetal hearttones. The few times I've seen midwifery transfers for fetal problems, the baby's been ok (and the close calls we've had have been a result of some weird clinical judgement by unlicensed midwives--for intrapartum incidents that threaten the fetus, I really think risk management and appropriate OB backup is paramount). One of the hardest things about demises is not necessarily knowing what caused them. Like I said, most of the demises I've seen have been sometime in earlyish pregnancy (14-26 weeks), and several (but not all) of those babies are born with something grossly wrong--facial or torso deformities, noticeable edema incongruent with intrauterine decomposition, etc. Those are harder, because they're more disturbing to look at, but offer up some answers as to why the pregnancy wasn't viable (there was something wrong with the baby). Term demises are very hard (and less likely to be born with an unknown anomaly), but much rarer. In all cases (intrapartum events or in-pregnancy loss), I think how the death is talked about is incredibly important--I always avoid using the term "miscarriage" when talking to the mom (it's not like if she'd somehow "carried the baby better", it would have lived), and while the idea of loss is often really helpful to discuss, I try to avoid "losing the baby" (like "We lost the baby" or "you lost the baby", because even in intrapartum events, everyone comes to the table with the best of intentions, and, one hopes, the best possible clinical judgement). The most helpful phrase (which I don't think I've ever been able to deliver without crying) has been "I'm so sorry this happened to your family." There have been times when I've seen bad outcomes occur as a result of interventions in labor at the hands of OBs (vacuum injury once, but usually maternal morbidity)--as a midwife, I think it may be more likely that a bad outcome occur as a result of not intervening in labor (I say this because I think that's the bias in the respective professions, and because of what I've seen at work--like a far-too-late transfer). Those are always hard. There is no way around that--even if it's just a birth injury, rather than a death, or a relatively common-but-benign-but-weird-occurance (a broken clavicle on a not-shoulder dystocia), it's hard to look at the people you're taking care of and tell them that something's not perfect with their baby, and that you messed up and that is (or might be) the cause. I also think that uncomfortable truth--that because we are human and make mistakes, and since we work in an industry where we work with people, there can be a very human cost for those mistakes--reinforces the need for a good clinical network. As a midwife, you want really excellent clinical judgement skills, and really excellent coworkers attending births with you or acting as backup--do you both think the woman's OK at home? Does she need that intervention? If you had to explain the case to someone else, what might they advise? 2 heads are better than one...and that also applies to the grieving process. It's good to grieve and talk shop with your co-workers--we all find demises hard in similar ways. This has gotten so long, but a last thing: don't let fetal (or maternal--those are the worst for me) deaths keep you out of birth work. It's for sure one of the hardest things about this crazy, beautiful, super-awesome field, but in a lot of cases (such as when a pregnancy is lost early, when something is wrong with the baby), it's part of life, and your job is to handle that delivery and short-lived life with the same respect you'd use to deliver a term, healthy infant, and to help the mom on her pregnancy journey--wherever it may go. If midwifery is in your veins, this is too important! Go be an advocate for a ton of women, know that in order to do that well you have to have a good network, and know that sometimes that won't be enough to save a baby who's not going to make it (because of anomalies or illness)--I think that's the biggest hurdle to make peace with.
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Question about noisy/open-glottis pushing
I think it mainly comes from how uncomfortable it is for the OB/midwife/nurses to hear someone making that kind of noise (and truthfully, I see this most with OBs, at least at my hospital). It's not a societal norm we have, and so people are asked to stop and coached to do the quiet, closed-glottis thing. Even in cases where open-glottis pushing takes longer (and I do think it tends to), I think it's how uncomfortable it makes the care providers, rather than the time, that drives a lot of (over) coached pushing. Personally, I think if you, as a care-provider, have a problem with how someone looks in natural labor, then it's *your* problem, and the onus is not on the patient to conform to something you like better. If there's a mom who is screaming during a push, or not pushing effectively, I'll often tell them to try "grunting against the pressure", or making the same low-pitch sounds I encourage them to use during labor. In my experience, it works well, particularly with moms who are going sans-epidural, or have some feeling. If a mom is just totally numb (can't feel her contractions, has never had a baby, needs lots of coaching for pushing), I'll labor her down if I can (per OB), and include open-glottis in my coaching. Sometimes the OB will come in for delivery and tell them to be quieter (in so many words), but by that point, the baby's almost out. Open-glottis pushing isn't something that's caught on much in my hospital, but I use it in my practice, and so do 2 of my co-workers.
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What's the craziest thing a patient or family member has said to you?
I once had a dad ask me, immediately following delivery, if we could "put a tracking chip" in his son (for child safety, in case he got lost?). His rationale was that "in the military, they do it all the time, so I know that technology's out there". I told him, with a straight face, that microchip placement was not a service the hospital currently offered.
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Oncology nurse turned L&D nurse!
I'm 9 weeks into my first job, on an L&D unit, and oh my goodness, is there a lot to learn! One of the best pieces of advice I've gotten (after "read everything" and "know as much as you can") is to not be too concerned with being the BEST nurse yet--just shoot for flawless mastery of the basics, when starting out. Knowing how to read a strip, and how to react to what's on it, will take you far--knowing every pushing trick there is will take you far too, but it's less critical when you're just starting out. I know it's not a great "tip", but on nights when I feel overwhelmed, it helps remind me to keep my eye on the prize.
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nursing policy on handling infant that is not bathed
At my hospital, we actually draw labs when we start their IV/saline lock (the IV/lock is recommended to everyone, even if they're having a drug-free birth, in the event of an unforeseen emergency) and test for these same things the day of delivery. If it's a fast labor or stat/emerg situation, we send the lab stat, so we know what we're potentially dealing with. I don't know if it's the same at any hospital, but just wanted to point out--at at least some facilities, there ARE safeguards in place to provide staff with the knowledge of disease development that the prenatal record may not reflect--and bath or not, every nurse I know uses gloves to touch baby, generally for the protection of the baby more than the nurse.
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Any US-trained CNMs qualified and working abroad?
I know in Canada, they require you to be licensed in whatever country you're coming from, and then take a roughly 9-month "bridge" course before registering as a Canadian midwife.
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Resume/Cover Letter Critique
Thank you to everyone who posted! I used these critiques to edit my cover letter for a different application--and was hired for the position! I'm lucky to have access to such a helpful online community. Best of luck to those who are still job-searching.
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Do you like the visiting IBCLC? How about doulas?
I try to be open to anyone the mom is comfortable with in the birthing process (from admission to discharge), regardless of what I may think/feel about them, because it's not really about me, or about what I think about whoever she has chosen to support her. Everyone wants a good birth. We're all on the same team. I LOVE lactation consultants--I feel like there's so much I can learn from them, and I try to take advantage of that when they're on-unit, so that I can be a better resource to moms when the LC's aren't around. Their services aren't necessary with every mom, but then again, neither are mine--there are plenty of women, all over the world, who give birth without nurses. The only time I've ever felt "ruffled" or undercut by a LC is if they villianize me for not knowing the latest information, or for not doing things "their way"--but that's a matter of the individual, not the profession. The profession's awesome--someone's paid to know all about something my patient may find challenging, that I don't have all the answers to. Who doesn't love that? I absolutely seek out their expertise. As for doulas--it really depends on the individual. I sometimes walk into a room, meeting a family for the first time, and I already feel like I'm being regarded suspiciously--like somehow it's a known fact that everyone wants a good birth except for me, and I somehow have an ulterior motive or secret motivation to force interventions (I don't--I really just want my patient to have an empowering, healthy birth!). I don't like walking into a room where my patient thinks I'm the enemy, and I don't like it when I see individuals--doula or not--actively contribute to that dynamic. But a good doula can really make a difference for some women. For my part, I try to walk into every delivery with no preconceptions, even if I'm familiar with the doula and know she'll make me feel villianized--me adding to the negativity won't help.
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OB "Goodie" Bags for Moms
For the boys, pull 2 little strings out from the bottom of the hat, and use it to tie the top 2 corners of the hat--it'll look like bear ears!
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ER to L&D!?!?
I love love LOVE my job because of the variety--I never know what kind of patients I'm going to get, or what their history is, and even if it's exactly the same history/age/parity as a patient I've had before, every labor is different. I also like that *generally* my patients are healthy, and I know that it's my job to assist or monitor a natural process, rather than fix an ailment. Downfalls: You can't escape all negativity. I hate it when my co workers act unsupportive of a mom who wants a natural labor (or a mom who doesn't!), but my focus is on my patients, because my duty is to my patients. I don't like the high levels of paperwork, but that gets faster with time. Not a downfall, but not a great thing: When L&D is good and happy, it is really really good, and really really happy. When something goes bad, though, it's usually really really bad, really really fast.
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Resume/Cover Letter Critique
.....Anyone?
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Resume/Cover Letter Critique
I'm a BSN student in Texas (graduating this May!) who is growing increasingly more worried as I watch my classmates get interviews/job offers. My phone has been painfully, patiently, pitifully silent. I'd love to have someone take a look at my resume--if you feel like ripping into something, let me know, and I'll PM you! The body of my cover letter is posted below. This one is for Parkland Hospital in Dallas, but each one I send out is customized to hospital/recruiter: Dear {nurse recruiter} I am writing to apply for a position as a Nurse Resident in the Labor and Delivery Department at Parkland Hospital. In May 2012, I will graduate from the University of Texas at Austin with a Baccalaureate of Science in Nursing. It is my hope that I can begin my career in an environment that supports the recently-graduated nurse--at a hospital that uses its valuable resources to ensure that the transition of their employees from "well-meaning student" to "knowledgeable professional" is a smooth one. With this in mind, Parkland is a system I would be honored and proud to represent. It is my hope to use my skills as a baccalaureate-prepared nurse to benefit Parkland in a variety of ways-- I believe that I can use my experience, skills, and passion for patient education to improve patient satisfaction on my unit and to reduce pathology-related readmissions. I am interested in working to the best of my ability to contribute to the incredible care that Parkland is known for. As my enclosed resume indicates, I have pursued excellence in my nursing studies, employment, and leadership roles. The communication and interpersonal skills I have gained as an education coordinator for a large nonprofit organization have been useful during my clinical experiences, and I look forward to continuing to emphasize patient education and professional cooperation in my practice. The time-management skills I have gained while working as a caregiver and medical assistant have prepared me for the stresses of multiple-patient management, and the variety of people I have encountered during my leadership and extra-curricular clinical experiences have assured me that I am prepared to satisfactorily treat all populations, regardless of age, race, income status, or physical abilities. Ultimately, I'd like to think of my employer as a partner with whom I work to become progressively better at my job--and I would be honored to be given the opportunity to partner with Parkland Hospital in such an endeavor. I can be reached at my current address, by phone at{phone}or by email at{email}. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, {name} Thanks guys! And if you'd be willing to check out my resume, please let me know (I'll be forever in your debt).
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new grad opportunities in around Austin, TX
I'm a student, graduating with my BSN in May from The University of Texas at Austin. The market is pretty darn saturated, and previous posters who pointed out low salaries are correct--they're relatively low in most fields, by industry standards, because people are willing to live in Austin even with lower salaries. Dallas and Houston are equally saturated. Good Shepherd Hospital, in Longview, Texas, is hurting for BSN-prepared nurses, and will take new grads. I've heard they're flexible in what unit they place you in.
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Why did you pick your username?
Texas is where I'm from; Courgette is the word for zucchini in French--it's the first French word I learned, and I thought it was so pretty, my boyfriend (who is French-Canadian, and taught me the word to begin with) started using it as a private nickname. My French has much improved since then, but still, "Texas" is a good reminder of where I'm from, "Courgette" reminds me of where I'm going, and posting on allnurses reminds me who my fabulous colleagues are. :cheers:
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How does anyone ever get to be a nurse in Canada?
Ha, we'll get married at some point, he's my person. :redbeathe But not now, and not for immigration...though I can't say the topic hasn't come up once or twice. :) Could we say "convenient"?
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How does anyone ever get to be a nurse in Canada?
I don't think I can stay in the country for more than 6 months without a visa--this isn't on the CIC, but it used to be. I am a US citizen, but NAFTA requires a job offer (obviously, and understandably). My question mainly centers around how I am supposed to get a job offer without a license, which requires a work permit, for which I need a job offer... I do understand that I can't come in as a "skilled worker", but I'm not trying to apply for that because it's a permanent resident class. Is it a fact that a TWP is required for a license to be issued? And I don't think I can apply to the CNO now, before I have my US license, or before I've finished my US BSN program. Silverdragon, do you have any more information on this? You've been very helpful on my threads in the past, thank you for your replies!