sidroc

I was working on a response that was eerily similar to this one but you beat me to the punch, this is exactly how it works and even if the nurses in this thread are not like this, they need to recognise were this problem originates from. To the nurse...

Its quite amusing to read nurses discuss the importance of charting the first vital set when not a single place I have worked at including hospitals and supervisor staff has said anything more than "chart the best vitals you got and monitor". So many...

This was incredibly touching. It saddens me watching patients trying to answer the question "why me?". Those heartfelt moments when you are able to reach out, connect with a patient are one of my biggest motivations. Thanks for the beatiful story!

That's a straw man argument. When you make a statement of fact here, it's really expected that you've done your homework and can readily point us in the direction of actual links to real information from unbiased sources. You've done none of that. ...

These studies are talking about RN's vs other nursing staff and it is not using RN to refer to LPN.

First of all, How I got my sources is not of concern the information contained is. My ProQuest account is currently inaccessible so I did the best I could. Second, they directly address the problem of RN staff vs LPN and other staff. Thirdly, if I ga...

I have done that.

So scholarly journals are now not sources of reliable information? I will remember that on the next big breakthrough in medical technology and I expect you to call it wrong.

I do judge it that way, but I would never go up to another member of staff and belittle them, although everyone who has asked me my opinion at work I have been honest with and I was yelled at by more than one LPN. But that all changed working in a ho...

I can post more later if wanted.

So the studies are bogus because you think you can disprove their methodology?

Why would I belittle my coworkers? Ad hominems are not called for here. Again, care to answer to any points I have made?

You say that, and yet have done little to rebuttal my main point of facilities with more RN's than LPN's having higher levels of patient care.

I dont think I am superior to anyone, as far as my plan goes, I could die tomrorow and it will be all for naught, or it could work and make me successful. Aiming personal attacks at me does not change anything about the statistics of RN to liscensed ...

If you so wish, I would only agree with the poster because she mentions useless degrees like 4 year psych degrees that lead to no jobs. However, the implications of many of the responses have been directed at the BSN program, which leads to the LPN d...

I already clarified. I apologize for not being as clear on on this particular matter the first time around, but my follow up was sufficient. As with anything else in a good debate, you have zoomed in on this even though it was said in error admittedl...

Washington State seems requires this. ,I have heard the BON made the move and have never heard of a college in the state that did not require it. I could be wrong on it being a state requirement but thats what I always heard. Not a single program I h...

You misinterpret my use of the word class. I meant it to denote their levels of education, not the class of the individual. Studies show for example that the quality of care has a direct correlation to the amount of RN to LPN in a unit. LPN's quality...

I understand your criticism, As for starting as an Aid first, my state requires working as an AID by law before being accepted to a ADN or BSN program and I feel that the best hospital nurses back it up with bedside experience as an AID. My pursuance...

I do not pride myself as having a higher intellect than a LPN, nor have I alluded to it. I am a CNA starting a ADN program and do not know more than a LPN. What I will say is that it is a travesty that someone with the capacity to become an LVN or LP...

I will say this, the LPN's that I felt where competent generally weren't from vocational programs. I think the rise in vocational programs has created a situation not seen 20 years ago were an LPN can graduate with terrible grades with no competition...

My State (Washington) has done a massive phase out of lpns in hospitals. Providence wont hire LPNS for example and neither will Swedish. You might encounter grandfathered LPN's in Washington, but not new hires at the hospitals. They are primarily LTC...

Agreed, and the scope of practice does have a relationship to your skills levels your fluent in.

Liscensure levels mean allot to hospitals and the state and generally the BON and should mean allot to the nurse. It can signify alot about you and what it signifies is the reason hospitals have in most areas phased them out.