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I just looked at a typical billing rate for TMS and I am absolutely appalled that with your prediction of 45 treatments per week leaves you with a pay expectation of $20/hour. Stop telling us what your overhead is. Stop trying to compare your anticipated income to what psychiatrists typically make. Either pay a nurse the hourly wages that a nurse should make, offer benefits, and give a competitive vacation package. Would you ever go into practice with a physician and offer them half what they should make? If you WANT a nurse, PAY for a nurse. You CAN afford it. (I mean, seriously, the last commenter here is running a TMS program. In my observation, programs offering only one type of treatment (and hiring "coordinators", no less) exist because they're profitable.) Also, for the love of god, don't hire a new grad nurse. This would be career suicide for a desperate new grad who would accept any offer thrown at them just to start working, especially if they continue to work for you for a long time. God, I'm going to have this thread rattling in my brain for awhile now. Just when we've been working so hard toward better respect between different types of healthcare licenses, stuff like this still happens.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Maybe if you take sociology of nursing or theoretical foundations of nursing, you'd actually have half a clue what you're talking about. I further add that maybe a course in research would be helpful as well. I'm working with BS students now. You know what they're learning? "early signs of sepsis, diabetes complications or new wound healing methods or new methods to accelerate healing and speed recovery" Literally. Our juniors are learning this during this semester. Speaking of people crawling out of their cubby-holes, hi, everyone. Nice to pop in again. AS1, always nice to be dragged back yet again by you. Thanks for the email notification on a 4 year old thread.

Also, if you genuinely don't care what people think, why do you keep responding?

You'll find a lot of those "go with your heart" and never follow advice or feedback folks over in the student and first year after licensing forums. Spoiler: it's not pretty.

I found nursing school was WAY more demanding of every little bit of my time (while I had little kids and a husband to acknowledge from time to time), which was horribly stressful. The first semester really was the worst, although my second one drew some tears a couple of times (mostly because I was so exhausted). Regarding post-graduation, I found my first year as a nurse to be the hardest thing I've ever done in my entire life. It was awful. I found writing about it to be cathartic, especially here. Here are a couple of articles I did: https://allnurses.com/first-year-after/raw-two-months-935902.html https://allnurses.com/first-year-after/still-raw-six-958489.html So to answer your question, they are both extremely stressful, but they are apples and oranges, in my opinion. I don't think I'd like to go back to either one. My mantra for both then and now is, "you have to go through this to get through this." I am very happy I am a nurse now. I regret none of it, even in times when I've hated it.

Is this a for-profit school?

I learned very, very quickly that you can't save patients from themselves. That, to me, was no big deal. The hardest thing? When the patient DOES want to save themselves, but there are literally no resources available to make them successful at it.

I HATE it when people try to be my friend. I feel like ADNs flirt overtly immaturely as well. They make me feel icky with all of their awkward conversation.

BY LAW, your facility is required to make reasonable accommodations, which includes allowing you light duty. For more information, you can look this up under EEOC's ADA online. Any conversation you have regarding this should take place in writing. Trust me on this.

Nope! Do share!

There is a pretty large group on facebook actively working on this exact problem. They have one gigantic group and then small groups for each state actively working to create better legislative changes. They've been looking at recent events and they are even sponsoring a rally in Geneva that's happening on Friday. People are flying in for it, and IL legislators are attending. It's a pretty big deal. I know we're not allowed to link people to stuff on other social media sites, so I wont, but if you guys want to see things change and be part of it, that's a great place to be. Beth, if you're feeling strongly about making things better, maybe a link *could* be okay for this? Keywords for searching in the meantime - healthcare workers protection act. They have a page and a group. The page is there to direct people into the group. The group is where the work is being done. It's not just a facebook group. They are a foundation promoting education, advocacy, and aiming to have laws that *actually* help.

Thank you. I really appreciate it. This is actually why I haven't been around in ages. Life seems to be hitting an upward trajectory, hopefully. I'd like to give some advice that you may take as an insult, but I promise it isn't. When you use "um" in written conversation, everything you write after it comes across as childish and ignorant. Think about it: when a person emphasizes "um" in a verbal argument, do they tend to make a well-reasoned, mature argument? Personally, I find they tend to be rude and ridiculous. I'm not saying you are any of those things, because frankly, I have no idea who you are or what you're like. But, know you are judged by writing it out in an argument.

I am responding to the OP only, without reading any comments first. OP, last year I developed persistent insomnia that at its peak, ended in me going into a psychosis at the end of a shift, complete with hallucinations. Instead of taking seriously the report I'd made to my manager on two prior shifts stating that I'd been dealing with sleeplessness (and me calling out in between those two shifts), the man assumed I was actually high. I received no medical attention whatsoever. Instead, I received a drug test. My manager received the results before I did, and I was fired before proof of one controlled medication validly prescribed was requested. That is just the BEGINNING of how my life was ruined by a person assuming I was on drugs. That was more than a year ago, and I am still knee deep in the massive pile of crap that dealt me. All they had to do was get me a doctor. You do NOTHING. Absolutely not one damn thing.