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klocl

Community Health, Clinical Instructor

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  1. I'm interested in feedback from anyone who is currently or has attended Chamberlain's online MSN program. What are your experiences?
  2. I am a school nurse and it is this type of downgrading of our knowledge and expertise that is leading to the demise of school nursing as a specialty across the country. The federal "ideal" ratio is one nurse to 750 students; I work in a district with one nurse to 5000 students and this is why! Our nursing organizations need to stand up for nursing everywhere. It would be unheard of to have "housekeeping staff" in a hospital deal with a diabetic insulin pump!
  3. klocl

    Nursing Graduates No Longer In High Demand

    It's interesting because this debate of LPN/ADN/BSN is exactly the same with the same fervor as it was in 1985 when I graduated with a BSN. I went directly to the BSN from an ADN program, and yes after all was said and done, back then it took 5 years. The BSN was the prestigious degree to have at the time, and nurses were trying to organize as a profession to make it the minimum standard. 25 years later, there remains no minimum standard, though I am finding that employers, probably for liability reasons, are wanting an MSN at entry with certifications for advanced practice. We as nurses need to take control of our profession, determine for ourselves what we want it to be before someone determines it for us. Nurses fighting among themselves over what level of preparation is best allows another faction to grab power and make the decisions for us.
  4. klocl

    Nursing Graduates No Longer In High Demand

    Good point. But another competing trend I see is the requirement to have certifications, certifications, certifications. For as many areas of nursing possible, there are certifications that seemingly the employer now wants. I get it that it reduces law suits. So where I'm struggling is, the employer is paying for these cerifications (if the nurse was employed with them originally), but for the outside applicant, the certifications are a requirement for application, but no additional pay comes with that cert. And some of these programs are expensive!
  5. klocl

    So, what happened to all the nursing jobs?

    In Detroit, a high percentage of the nursing staff come from Canada. It's nearly impossible to land a job there if you are from the US. Started with the "nursing shortage" in the 80's but continues today.
  6. klocl

    Nursing Graduates No Longer In High Demand

    I agree. It is no different than moving all of our industry overseas, outsourcing our medical transcription overseas, outsourcing our radiology overseas, etc. I believe it is about pay and benefits, plain and simple. We need to take control of our profession, upgrade nursing to a billable/reimbursable service, and stop allowing ourselves to be seen and treated as middlemen or hired labor.
  7. klocl

    Nursing Graduates No Longer In High Demand

    I'm sorry but I respectfully disagree that the two are totally unrelated. The US government has just taken over health care in entirety; currently provided in the "stimulus bill" is central computer to which all health care providers will be required to log into on a regular basis to receive "guidance and direction" (with penalty if the provider chooses not to do so); the government is staffing policy-makers in roles to determine validity of medical claims and the reimbursement the provider will receive. All of this IS related; so related that the face of our health care will forever be dictated by government-appointed decision makers. I don't want to be told by a bureaucrat how much my services are worth, how much I am allowed to be paid after I am the one who worked to earn the degree, worked to achieve the scholarships, paid back the loans, and have a family to feed.
  8. klocl

    Nursing Graduates No Longer In High Demand

    This is the advice I have been giving my 4th year BSN students. It's what I did in the 80's! Working nights and weekends is something the older nurses don't want to do; it's hard for a nurse manager to tell an unwilling nurse she has to go back to nights when new graduates are on the floor asking for those jobs
  9. klocl

    Nursing Graduates No Longer In High Demand

    Persistence, I know it doesn't apply that there is "strength in numbers" when it comes to the number of nurses nationwide that have sent out hundreds of resumes that go unacknowledged. I think it's the new computer-age. Resumes sent online are never read by a human being; a computer resume reading program is used, and the resume that has the correct formatting and words the program is looking for might get flagged. This is probably happening off-site. The ONLY interviews I have gotten in the past year (and I have 25 years of experience) are from the resumes I have sent by mail (a rare thing these days) or by fax. Still, while I am fortunate to be employed, I would like more hours and have had no luck in the past 2 years of finding more work. It was unheard of for a nurse to say "I am fortunate to be employed". Try to find someone that you can HAND your resume to by staying active in the community and volunteer work.
  10. klocl

    Nursing Graduates No Longer In High Demand

    Good discussion nurses. Now the question is, how do we as nurses wrestle the control back? It's all about control of our profession, and right now the goal in my opinion is to identify fact from fiction. There is not a nursing shortage, but there will be when it is learned that the reimbursement from the new HC bill is so low that the hospitals and other health care providers can not afford to stay in business. This administration is not a friend to business, so therefore the next stage would be that "for profit" health care is gone; those whom have chosen health care as their profession will be leaving practice, to be replaced by people who will do it at a fraction of the pay we currently enjoy. And pay is "good"--I like to be able to feed my family.I don't do this as volunteer work, though I do volunteer AT MY CHOICE. So we nurses need to understand that our profession is under siege; we will be replaced by people who agree to accept work at very little reimbursement--just look at overseas health care and unfortunately, you can predict where this is going.
  11. klocl

    Nursing Graduates No Longer In High Demand

    Good to hear we are not alone. Soundofmusic, nice to hear that I'm not the only Republican nurse in the USA, as our nurse organizations would have me believe. After 25 years in nursing, watching the economic cycles come and go, this still has me scratching my head. And I'm a clinical instructor--I watch these young students approach graduation with nothing lined up and it's frightening for them right now.
  12. klocl

    Nursing Graduates No Longer In High Demand

    Soundofmusic, I thought it was just something we were experiencing regionally. In 25 years I have NEVER seen a condition in which I have sent out resumes that have not even been acknowledged let alone not received an interview. I have applied to positions where my resume matches almost exactly the job description; and "poof", I hit send, off to cyberspace as if the resume was a figment of my imagination. It's definitely foreign ground for me, a person used to sending a resume, having an interview, and deciding whether to accept the job offer.
  13. klocl

    Nursing Graduates No Longer In High Demand

    I am discovering that in the past 10 years the new minimum standard is an MSN degree.
  14. klocl

    Nursing Graduates No Longer In High Demand

    So true. A colleague of mine has finished her first year of training for FNP and is considering dropping. In the year she has attended, not a single posting for a FNP has come through placement at the University. It has been hyped that there will be a shortage of providers with the new Health Reform, but my fear is that it will be due to reimbursement issues, not lack of trained medical caregivers.
  15. klocl

    Nursing Graduates No Longer In High Demand

    This seems to be a national problem. In Michigan, if a graduate nurse did not have an externship during nursing school, he/she will not have a job upon graduation. Even older, experienced nurses are not even getting interviews without specialized certification and experience in the job they are interested in. Specialization and certification appear to be requirements everywhere today.
  16. I have Health Care Policy as well. I was reading over the text which is Policy and Politics...so we will be in the same course. My best to you as well. I'm looking forward to it!
  17. Thanks for the reply. I'm starting in July as well. Policy and Politics is my first class. Will we be in the same group?
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