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    Is every nursing program the same way?

    I do not know what world you live in, but the premise that any student who fails is because they are not smart enough or couldn't meet the minimum criteria is a little short sighted. I had 4 courses last semester. Some were more difficult than others, but only 1 instructor administered a final exam that had a 60 average. Now there is no problem with an instructor giving a challenging exam, but when the average of her other 4 exams given during the semester was an 82, then I do not think it is unreasonable to consider there might have been a problem with the test administered, and if that is the reason some students failed, I believe they have a right to think things might not have been administered fairly. The fact of the matter is that some Nursing Schools are quickly becoming programs designed to teach test taking. This is all geared to ensure students pass the NCLEX. Although it is critical students are able to pass the boards (what good is a degree without a license), I would rather have a practicing healthcare worker who was knowledgeable over one who can eliminate 2 answers and then select the best possible of the remaining answers on a "critical thinking" question. Nursing school is hard. It should be hard we are dealing with people's lives, but it is annoying when someone who is doing a little better, or did better, in school throws a label of unqualified to those students who are struggling. By the way, this is being written by someone who is not failing, but was concerned at the rate their fellow classmates are.
  2. daystarmike

    Is every nursing program the same way?

    Please let me know if I am in a unique situation or not. I am at a University which will end up failing almost 60% (about 30 out of 55) of its woman/child (maternity ob) students this semester, several of whom this is their second attempt. Is that about the norm, or is it high or low? I really have no idea, but am curious.
  3. daystarmike

    Classmates complaining about program, I think it is fine

    Just because you are doing well does not mean the school or program is run well. There are nursing schools that may still have tyrannical instructors and an administration that is only concerned with University politics. I am in a class that has several (meaning more than 5) students who have scored in the top 2% of the nation on their HESI exams, but are struggling to pass the course for which they took the HESI. This generates the feeling that maybe things are not fair. Their class scores are not representative of how they study or what they know. I have a class (JR II level) which last semester failed 30 of 55 students in a course. I honestly have no idea if this is the norm, or if that is a high number. As someone who has come from the business world, that ratio would not be acceptable without an explanation. In another class the average of each course exam was an 82 throughout the semester, but the final had an average of 60. Am I to assume that all the students studied during the semester but at the end decided they didn't need to for the final? And that they are just whiny when they complain about it? Or maybe, just maybe some students have a valid critique. It is easy to identify the whiners, but I will tell you that in my class there are very few of those. I am very proud of my classmates. I see them in the library and off campus in study groups. I hear of the time they put in, and I know the vast majority take this very seriously. Because of this, it is very frustrating when a previously straight A student prepares 20-25 hours the weekend before an exam studying (on top of the countless hours during the weeks prior), and they do not see that effort reflected in their score. Nursing school should be hard. This is not a game. We are dealing with people's lives, and errors can cause the loss of life. I have no problem with making a curriculum challenging, and it does no good to get a degree if you cannot pass the boards. In my opinion (and that along with $1.65 will get you a tall coffee at Starbucks) Nursing school (because of NCLEX) is not a place where you go to accumulate as much knowledge as possible that can be applied in caring for patients, but it has become institutions who teach you how to test well (If I hear the phrase "critical thinking" one more time stated as if nurses, and nurses alone, invented the concept and are the only ones who use it, I just might have duct tape my head to keep it from exploding). If you are a person who tests well no matter how much you study, good for you, you chose the right career path. For those who may not test quite as well as you, but just want to be good nurses, you might have a little more compassion. I have been told the number one thing employers are looking for is Nurses who can work in a team environment (I have been told this by instructors, I have no idea if that is correct or not). If that is the case, I would think learning to get along with classmates would be a good start at developing those skills.
  4. I am 46 and will start my last year of nursing school in Jan. I will graduate in Dec. 2012 at the ripe old age of 47. I spoke with another student in my class (who is currently in the army) and he was suggesting that even at my age (with a waiver) I could serve in one of the military branches. The idea of being a member of a healthcare team providing quality care to our service men and women and their families is very appealing to me. I never served and this feels like a way to give back to those who did/do. Is there anyone who knows if this is even possible? And if so which branch(es) of the military service that might consider accepting someone like me? I would not be looking for help finishing school because that is already taken care of. Thanks for any information, Mike
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    Looking for Nursing School options

    Thank you for your replies. I will have 54 hours by the the fall of 2010. I could start an RN program at the Jr. college I am currently attending this fall, or wait an entire year, take some extra core courses, start at Orvis in Reno and have my BSN with only an additional 6 months. That is why I was looking for other Universities that completed their upper Nursing courses in 16-18 months. I have found the Univeristy of New Mexico also does this and am just trying to find all my options. Mike
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    Looking for Nursing School options

    I have gone back to college after 25 years and am currently finishing up my pre reqs for nursing school. I have no degree but am looking for the quickest options to finish up my BSN. Orvis Nursing School in Reno runs their semesters straight through (including the summer) so that their 4 semesters of upper level nursing courses for a BSN can be completed in 18 months. Are there any other schools which do this? I have a 4.0 GPA right now so I should be able to at least apply anywhere(getting accepted is another matter). Thanks for any help Mike
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    Nursing School/Degree options

    Ok, I am 43 and have gone back to school to pursue a nursing degree. I have been working on my pre-reqs, and by the end of the fall semester I will have the following. A&P 1 A&P 2 Eng comp 1 Psychology Lifespan Psychology College Algebra Sociology Elective (from 1984) Physical Ed (from 1984) In the spring I was planning on taking Eng Comp 2 Chemistry Microbiology When I first looked at ADN programs, I was shocked they were only two years. Then I quickly found out I would have to put in a full year (including summer) just to get the pre -reqs out of the way. This means it is really a 3 year degree. There are many different programs. I have seen some schools that you earn a total of 75-80 credit hours upon completion, and others that will give you 108. I would like to get into the workforce as soon as possible, but if going 1 more semester (even if summer semesters were required) at a specific University would earn me a BSN, I would rather do that. I have also seen schools (Northern Idaho College) that start in the Spring, for which I will have enough pre-reqs already to qualify, and they run in quarters instead of semesters, which would have me graduated in the fall of 2011 instead of Spring 2012. The local jr. college(Grayson county college/Denison TX) has a good/inexpensive two year ADN program that I believe I will have enough points to earn admission for the fall of 2010. Here is my questions: Should I apply to a jr. college and get an ADN, or should I go ahead and take the credits I will have already earned and pursue a BSN? Are there any fast track programs that do not require a bachelor's degree first? Are there any other schools that start programs in the spring I might qualify for? NIC accepts courses you are taking in the fall for their Spring program application, GCC does not. Since most programs require an application filed in September(at the latest) for the Spring, I am trying to find as much information I can, as quickly as I can. There is so much information on the internet that I am hoping some members can filter it down a little. Thanks for your help Mike
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