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  1. 2 years MD program University of MD I do not see how they are the same?
  2. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    1st off, the concept of having a PA or NP working in primary care with the physician is a sound one if set up right, the physician should be seeing the same patients on a rotation basis. It is not meant and in some states by law, that the PA or NP ar...
  3. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    You are missing the point, you cannot expect someone not trained as a Physician to replace a Physician. You are arguing that Nursing is training better Primary care providers, How? What is the evidence of this? How can Nurses train such providers wit...
  4. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    I have to go for while, please keep posting, I have no problem with you disagreeing with me, in fact I expect some to, I wish I had all the info in front of me, I have to study for clinicals tomorrow (IM) some review. Maybe in time I will understand ...
  5. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    I 100% agree with this, I think when in Nursing school the nursing theory and even (Gulp) nursing care plans were needed since I was studying nursing. But some more disease oriented study would have been a good thing. I also think Nurses should be a...
  6. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    I do not think so, PA programs are more like medical school why cannot DNP be such if they expect this autonomy? I think its a fair question. Not true/pure Autonomy in most states ( like a Physician has) I want to clarify this I do not know of...
  7. NP & MD equivalency

    i do not know you started a new thread to discuss virtually the same issue? i do not think that np's pa's and or dnp's do not have value, i do think that they are not equivalent to md and do's i think that np's, pa's and dnp's do and should have a l...
  8. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    AN yet a new thread pops up, for those of you who say NP's are not being equated to MD/DO's https://allnurses.com/forums/f34/np-md-equivalency-316413.html#post2957696 Please stop posting I have a chip on my shoulder for addressing this.
  9. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    I have seen the research and it was based on satisfaction surveys. Wheres the Outcomes? that is what I'm talking about. It needs to be done in rural areas not in ares where the NP is backed up by MD and DO's You earned the reputation because many MD ...
  10. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    this has been brought up in a "passive aggressive way" by people here on the site, when openly comparing md and do training to dnp and statements like md = doctorate and dnp= doctorate i have read these articles, you tell me what is the real intent...
  11. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    Not all master's prepared Nurses are NP's, this is part of the problem, if the admission critea was for NP's only then the DNP would be accepted a little better by Physicians Part of the Problem I have is this: The courses I have looked at are nursin...
  12. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    To answer an earlier Question IM residency: The IM residency that includes other specialties it is 4 years then SO CORE0 was right on this in the sense that IM itself is 3 years but an extra year for focus can be added. This is considered a 4 year ...
  13. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    I feel there are two points, sure there have been states where NP's have a lot of autonomy, but where are the studies that show Care for patients has exceeded care by a Doctor? Patients satisfaction surveys are not even close to the right kind of stu...
  14. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    OK I did get "Sassy" myself. I really did not mean to create an online fight, SO I apologize too heated debate sure pass the popcorn. As far as this debate I will come back and check but I posted what I wanted. I think this does need to be discussed...
  15. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    My Point is that the RN BSN and MSN are Nursing oriented degrees Even the DNP seems to be more Nursing then Medical so a DNP is 75% Nursing and maybe 25% Medical as what I currently understand. A NP that gets a DNP will have more Medical training tho...
  16. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    i think it is relevant since a Masters in Nursing is not clinically oriented all the time: Yes the MSN is just more Nursing courses really I can only look at it I do not have a MSN myself
  17. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    Dear CORE0: This was after you questioned my credentials......... Called me a guest? because I'm a Medical student? I'm also a Nurse, an RN of 20 years I think that means I should be allowed on a Nursing forum and have opinions about Nursing, righ...
  18. Do you think NP's are "midlevels"?

    Sorry I think it became off topic with the comments that the education of a DNP is the same as a MD/DO and thus equal. I just do not agree.
  19. Do you think NP's are "midlevels"?

    This is not about being secure, as a physician and a Nurse I have the responsibility to uphold the high standard of care in the USA. If you think other physicians do not agree with me then you are wrong, I know of more then a few I have talked to in...
  20. Do you think NP's are "midlevels"?

    CORE0, you are missing what I posted, I did say 1 and 3 years for License, LOL Did you miss it? I'm a FMG MD I have 3 years like other FMG MD's not all MD's can get a full License in a year, and show me a Doctor allowed to practice without finishin...
  21. Do you think NP's are "midlevels"?

    WOW you are 100% off the mark here. I support PA's and NP's 100% I do not support that a PA and a NP or DNP are equals to MD's and DO's not as a Nurse or a MD. I think you bring too much emotion into this. and your posts prove this fact. You want...
  22. Do you think NP's are "midlevels"?

    What? Medical School and CME's are not the same thing? You understand this right? YES, I did need to go to medical school to understand this, like many other nurses here I thought there was not so much difference, now I understand there are differe...
  23. Do you think NP's are "midlevels"?

    PA's in GA are kept under close Physician supervision even in satellite offices: In regular settings: If you are not practicing this way in GA ( as the other PA's ) then the law is being broken. Not a good thing.
  24. Do you think NP's are "midlevels"?

    CORE0, it must frustrate you that DNP's, NP's and PA's will not by law be called Doctor in the clinical setting, if you want that there is Medical School. As far as training for full License Here's Ga law for an example I put in bold the 3 years. T...
  25. Do you think NP's are "midlevels"?

    Core0 You fullfill my expectations of a PA, LOL Insults are very mature...... IM is now 4 years in many progrems, there are a Few that are 3 Years, , I was speaking in general but when Nurses and PA's start to argue, emotions are used as facts. This ...