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I completely agree. Supervising is non-sensical. I can't seem to get that across to my anesthesiology friends....they are more interested in the $$.

And you don't understand deep pockets. CRNAs may be named, but in a team model, even if the CRNA screws up badly and causes permanent injury or death, the anesthesiologist is ALWAYS NAMED. You can rarely find cases where the CRNA was found liable f...

Actually there are studies that demonstrate statistically significant differences, but not clinical differences in outcome. What does this prove: 1. anesthesiologists and CRNAs deliver virtually the same product 2. anesthesia has become so safe th...

Actually you can only supply studies showing statistical but not relevant clinical significant differences... By definition an employee does not have completely independent decision making otherwise they would be either independent contractors or im...

I counter that if you have CRNAs that have been sued and lost in a team model when the anesthesiologist was dismissed, post it here, by all means. I agree, MDs are being self destructive with their continuance of the status quo but also believe the ...

The issue is liability. It has been a very nice dance around the issue in the past with CRNAs wanting independence but not wanting to tear down the shield that helps protect them. Perhaps that time has come. There are NO cases which I can find in ...

If CRNAs are completely independent, then neither the surgeon in smaller hospitals nor the anesthesiologist in a team model would be found culpable at the end of litigation. Fact is, virtually 100% of the time the surgeon or anesthesiologist is name...

If the nurse is being employed by the anesthesiologist, then yes, the nurse has to get permission and typically in a team approach will discuss the case in advance. In a situation where the states are non-opt out and the anesthesiologists are in a t...

It has been a "team approach" that is really a half baked approach to the delivery of anesthesia. I also think independent should rule....MDs should make themselves independent of the team approach, but in reality, most won't due to $$$$$.

I agree....the greedy lazy docs should go. But with CRNAs telling the surgeons, patients, and hospitals that they are at least as good as (if not better than) anesthesiologists, there will be some push back. As reimbursement by Medicare and linked ...

It is exactly the assertions by BCRNA that will cause MDs across the land to begin jettisoning their CRNAs, whether they have been with the group a long time, or not. The fact is, CRNAs have now engaged in terminology and rhetoric that places them s...

The anesthesiology groups that are simply operating off of greed by their partners and anesthesiologists will permit anyone, CRNA or AA, to do any case.

AAs are certainly a threat to CRNAs. As the CRNA political establishment becomes more militant about the independence of CRNAs and continues to equate their members to anesthesiologists in performance, training, etc, the physician anesthesiologists ...

Whether you have broken a law is a matter for the attorney general of our state to evaluate. As for taking a person off the street and training them in anesthesia....I am dead serious. It has been done in Africa for decades and works quite well wit...

So, a CRNA in Indiana practicing independently without deference to the directing physician is violating State law. And freely admits it. Hmmmmm..... With respect to "5% sheer terror" giving anesthetics, that high of a percentage would be due to i...

The Indiana Hospital Licensure Rules ("Rules") address the provision of anesthesia services in a hospital. 410 IAC 15-1.6-1 ( A LAW IN OUR STATE) states as follows: Anesthesia shall be administered by those privileged by the medical staff who ar...

Yes, RN schools have much lower standards for entering students than do MD schools. This is expected.

It is so presumptious of superiority when one makes ridiculous statements about holding ones life in their hands.... Airline pilots make less than CRNAs and hold the lives of hundreds to over a thousand in their hands every day. Workers in nuclea...

It is useful to engage in self examination in order to produce cogent thought about one's life profession especially when there are those that have become so insouciant that they have developed their own self consistent set of ideas that are quite di...

The $185,000 figure is from the national press posted one week ago. Looking at the stats from several salary search sites including salary.com, one finds salary and benefits for the 50th percentile to be frequently over $200,000 in many locations. ...

Well, don't be mislead by those saying it is not about money...it is ALL about money. CRNAs make far more than any other group in nursing and more than many physicians. Their educational requirements are minimal....currently 6-6.5 years of training...

The wonderful thing about being in private practice, and not a technician chained to an anesthesia machine is that I can decide exactly which patients I will or won't see, what services I will or won't provide, how many hours I am willing to work and...

Its about time!

Oh, I understand the truth hurts, but there you have it. I have worked for years in programs that had MDAs only, CRNAs only, and combinations, and with 30 years experience in clinical medicine, I know exactly what I am talking about, and have the va...

The responses to my post are predictable knee jerk reactions by those that feel threatened. The money is definitely a motivation based on my discussions with scores of CRNAs over the years, and when one considers they make make 200-500% of what a nu...