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    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    We have two Magnet hospitals in the area. In 2010 one dropped it's tuition reimbursement completely. The other reduced it to $100/year according to my friends who work there. One of them is a very...
  2. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    $58K!!!! That is crazy. That is more than a four year bachelors degree in one of my state's universities. That is more than a masters degree! I would seriously question the judgment of anyone who...
  3. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    I know dozens. That is true for many CC programs. I didn't want to play that game and looked for and found a school, actually a whole system of CC's that do not require pre-reqs. Some of them do have...
  4. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    That is interesting that the state of California has that program. I didn't know that. Neither the state I live in, or work in, offers such a program. I just checked after reading your
  5. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    That is fantastic! I congratulate you for finding an affordable option. I am curious, how long had it been since you graduated from your ADN
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    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    The list price of mine was around $27K. I have no idea how much my employer actually paid, I suspect far, far less. My hospital made a deal with one of the state universities who was desperate for a...
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    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    That is a very good deal. I wonder if the same would be true today. I ask because recently a RN I work with enrolled with WGU for their RN to BSN program. After a transcript review they sent her a...
  8. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    I imagine that since it is likely that the RNs who make policy at the ANA and AACN had to take on student loan debt they will want everyone else to as well. Hardly fair that some people have to spend...
  9. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    Uh, no I never said anything of the sort. Read it again. " If what was valued was a well rounded individual and a person with broader perspectives, then an ADN and a bachelors degreed RN would be the...
  10. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    Yes either a BSN or MSN. You are rolling the dice as to your future employment prospects if you don't. From what you have shared about your situation I would think you are in a position to take it...
  11. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    Only for now. TPTB won't be happy until every last RN has either been pushed into unemployment, or had made the same kind of investment into their right to be an RN as the TPTB
  12. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    I think there is very little doubt about the value of a good education. However it is not a bachelors degree that is valued. The ADN and BSN program provide essentially the same nursing education. If...
  13. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    I would be interested to know. Thank you. I have worked at small community hospitals as well as big university teaching hospitals. Leaving aside nursing, it has been my exerience that the qualiety of...
  14. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    I am unable to read the paper, only the abstract. It seems to me that hospitals with a higher percentage of BSN prepared nurses also have a lot of other things going for them. Does the paper show that...
  15. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    Well since in most (but not all) states an associates degree or dipiloma is the minimum education for RNs it appeared you were referring to people calling for less education, I assumed less than is...
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    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    The trend towards degree inflation nationwide is not evidence that people entering nursing with an associates degree are not adequately, or well prepared to be nurses in today's health are...
  17. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    I am not sure if we will ever have a excess of nurse jobs (never was a shortage as you point out) during my career. If we do I would take note of the hospitals that refuse to hire ADN RNs now and...
  18. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    Maybe it would be _IF_ it exsisted. In reading this discussion I have not read anyone called for less education for nurses. Unless I missed something this seems like and unsubstantiated
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    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    I have and do work with many excellent nurses who obtained their license through Excelsior. I absolutly do not care about HOW a nurse learned everything she is supposed to know, only that she DOES...
  20. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    Hmm, I am wondering if we are reading the same discussion? I have not read where anyone has advocated what you
  21. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    When I did the two semester bridge from LPN to RN there were a couple of medics in the class too. That is why I thought it was two semesters. I would be interested to know if there was a shorter rout...
  22. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    I didn't make a statement, I asked a question. You can tell the questions beacause they are followed by "?" at the end. I was under the impression that a paramedic to RN program was two semesters. I...
  23. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    Shorter than two 4 month
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    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    Why would I make that argument when, as I have said, I do not belive that a workforce with a higher degree is the goal of the ANA and AACN (the IOM is different and has zero credabiliety with me)....
  25. PMFB-RN

    WHY do I need a BSN?

    PMFB-RN replied to AnnMarie52471's topic in Diploma, ADN, BSN

    No I didn't. You have made that up. Not exactly. I see that once again, as you have so often done in other discussions, you have chosen to misrepresent what others are saying. In other threads you...