Actually the majority of the pressure is coming from employers not academia. FWIW this is not at all how they measured outcomes in any of the major studies. I think most of us agree that there...
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Hang in there OC. In the end you need to do what is best for you. I will say that you have a lot to offer and, disability or not, I hope you can find an outlet for your talents. I am a big believer...
I would be very interested in that data. The last published data I saw on a similar topic was from 2014 and showed that about 40% of ADN students were over the age of 30 compared to only 18% of BSN...
Low level of evidence? These were major studies published in some of the most prestigious peer-reviewed (nursing and medical) journals in the world. Do you think that because studies are not RCTs they...
What makes you think it doesn't help you as a floor nurse? The data has been consistent across numerous studies and numerous countries. Given the extant data I am not sure a RCT would even be...
Well we all know that PG scores are inversely correlated with both cost and mortality, so makes ure administration knows There is also the issue of personal bias we all have to consider. Is the...
Which I think we all agree isn't the case. Do you have some data on that? Any plan for BSN entry would require a lead in period to allow ADN programs to expand into BSN programs perhaps with a...
I am not sure I really follow this argument: do you consider all of the extant studies invalid and obsolete because there have been recent changes to curriculum? That would make just about every study...
I'll ignore the ad hominem. Explain how seasoned nurses' clinical and experience is being discounted/devalued in lieu of education? The only one that has tried to make an education vs experience...
For most programs there are four clinical semesters with escalating clinical time. The max you'd be able to get a single preceptor to do would be 1/semester which would make
Education does not trump experience, it improves it. And vise-versa. I haven't seen a single person suggest that coursework is more important than experience. I have seen many try to make the...
You are using empiricism here to define/justify an opinion, really you are defining dogmatism. Personal experience absolutely shapes our practice but is should do so under the confines of...
Based on what? And have you ever made any mistakes or was that just with the BSN nurses? Demand more money, that's great. But right now most people are being told they need to go back to school...
Remember there is a difference between practice license (RN vs APN) and academic degree (diploma, ADN, BSN, MSN, DNP/PhD). A practicing RN could hold any academic degree from diploma to doctorate. A...
I don't follow your logic here. A novice RN is a novice RN. The NCLEX is a minimum competency board exam. Are you insinuating that ADN nurses are better prepared to function on day 1 over BSN
The more I read posts on this debate the more I think the crux of the issue really has nothing to do with degrees, coursework, application, or outcomes but rather with one group either feeling or...
There is a significant body of research that suggests otherwise, but that aside, the main difference that most people here are mentioning (but not understanding) is that in many places if a nurse...
I wholeheartedly agree, and in essence, this is the reason behind the BSN push (along with the almighty $$$). Outliers take it upon themselves to be lifetime learners, the rest, do what is required of...