President Biden thread

19 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I'm retired. I watch and listen to our presidents and political leadership when they make public remarks. I read transcripts of their comments.  I'm trained in psychiatric nursing and behavioral health.  

Let's start by comparing incoherent verbal communication...you provide one for Biden and I'll give you 2 from Trump that will make your example appear contrived in comparison. If word salad and confused communication are your tests then it's clear that Trump has the larger problem.  

Everyone uses teleprompters when appropriate.  Is it a sign of dementia when Trump uses one? Speaking of which, you don't really think that Trump is good at reading and speaking from a teleprompter, do you?

Yes. President Biden sometimes expresses humor in sarcastic ways rather than by trying to humiliate or belittle others, as Trump did.  I mean, when Trump called people names I didn't think it was funny but Trump occasionally suggested that his demeaning language was just a joke or similar. 

Are you aware that Trump's own cabinet included people who were concerned about his mental health after he totally botched covid and then lost the election? He certainly is delusional about fraud in the 2020 election. It's difficult to imagine how you are completely unaware of Trump's instability but are suddenly very focused and concerned about "evidence" of Biden's mental health.  

Well not really difficult to imagine how.  That wasn't true. 

 

Usual ad hominem reply with no substance. 

10 minutes ago, Cclm said:

Usual ad hominem reply with no substance. 

LOL

You mean like maintaining that Biden has cognitive decline without a shred of evidence because Trump said so more than a year ago...that kind of ad hominem?

Biden's UN speech to me was good, but not earth shattering.  It's hard to get past the last four years of "America First" and the debacle that was Afghanistan.  Although some analysts are saying he's a milder version of America First with the submarine sales to Australia which canceled a deal made to the French.

Some are saying the's trying to unite with skeptical allies on climate change.  Some point out his "relentless diplomacy" instead of military might.

 Fox News talked of his "relentless surrendering" of America while ignoring problems like inflation, the border, and covid.  Ingraham called it bland, but didn't mention his declining mental condition but she clearly loathe the man.

At least no one laughed at his bragging about himself.   He got decent applause and no analysis that I've seen mentions demential or gaffes even on Fox.

1 minute ago, Tweety said:

Biden's UN speech to me was good, but not earth shattering.  It's hard to get past the last four years of "America First" and the debacle that was Afghanistan.  

Some are saying the's trying to unite with skeptical allies on climate change.  Some point out his "relentless diplomacy" instead of military might.

 Fox News talked of his "relentless surrendering" of America while ignoring problems like inflation, the border, and covid.  Ingrahma called it bland, but didn't mention his declining mental condition but she clearly loathe the man.

At least no one laughed at his bragging about himself. 

 

I do not point out his possible mental decline( I could be wrong, something others on here would never consider) because I want to discredit his presidency, he's better than Harris. However as a nurse and a child of two parents with dementia I can see the symptoms. I feel bad for him actually. 

5 minutes ago, Cclm said:

I do not point out his possible mental decline( I could be wrong, something others on here would never consider) because I want to discredit his presidency, he's better than Harris. However as a nurse and a child of two parents with dementia I can see the symptoms. I feel bad for him actually. 

I've never had the sad opportunity to watch dementia unfold as both my parents are in their late 80's and without dementia.  It doesn't run in my family.  I acknowledge what you're saying and will leave it at that.  

You asked above "did you see the UN speech" hinting that you noticed some signs.  Can you say what they were?

19 minutes ago, Cclm said:

I do not point out his possible mental decline( I could be wrong, something others on here would never consider) because I want to discredit his presidency, he's better than Harris. However as a nurse and a child of two parents with dementia I can see the symptoms. I feel bad for him actually. 

That's odd, then, that you can't see the much more obvious evidence that Trump is cognitively challenged and emotionally labile. The dramatic decline in Trump's verbal abilities alone should be reason to wonder. There's so much evidence...

8 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I've never had the sad opportunity to watch dementia unfold as both my parents are in their late 80's and without dementia.  It doesn't run in my family.  I acknowledge what you're saying and will leave it at that.  

You asked above "did you see the UN speech" hinting that you noticed some signs.  Can you say what they were?

In my opinion. Disclaimer: I know they all use the teleprompter: It seemed he was only reading words, not understanding them. I conclude this as he doesn't pause between words or end of sentences. Like he's been coached or reheorificed. I see more in other instances where his recall is not fully there. He loses his thought train and forgets what he is saying in mid sentence. 

My personal observations. I see the confused look in his face and his gait is off. His reliance on what people tell him. So often my mom in particular would say, " my daughter told me I should do this" or " I'll get in trouble"  allot. It is sad really. I can explain more when I have some time. 

5 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

That's odd, then, that you can't see the much more obvious evidence that Trump is cognitively challenged and emotionally labile. 

I don't. Not at all. If I did I have the ability to criticisize those that I support and do not support. You however do not have that ability. 

Just because you do not like what and how Trump speaks, does not mean he has decline. 

You would be better at just attacking his character. Seems less obvious. 

14 minutes ago, Cclm said:

In my opinion. Disclaimer: I know they all use the teleprompter: It seemed he was only reading words, not understanding them. I conclude this as he doesn't pause between words or end of sentences. Like he's been coached or reheorificed. I see more in other instances where his recall is not fully there. He loses his thought train and forgets what he is saying in mid sentence. 

My personal observations. I see the confused look in his face and his gait is off. His reliance on what people tell him. So often my mom in particular would say, " my daughter told me I should do this" or " I'll get in trouble"  allot. It is sad really. I can explain more when I have some time. 

Again...if teleprompter reading ability is your trigger for cognitive decline then how did you even give Trump a passing grade? Have you ever listened to Trump's rambling rants that jump from thought to thought? Have you never read a transcript in which Trump was clearly confused about the subject, there's quite a few to choose from. 

And now you want to suggest that a confused look or odd gait is your concern as if you don't remember Trump getting helped down a a gentle slope or some of the crazy rants.  

Holy hell man...have you paid attention at all for the past 4 years?

5 minutes ago, Cclm said:

I don't. Not at all. If I did I have the ability to criticisize those that I support and do not support. You however do not have that ability. 

Just because you do not like what and how Trump speaks, does not mean he has decline. 

You would be better at just attacking his character. Seems less obvious. 

Just because you don't like what Biden says does not mean that he has dementia...Trump started that lie. No one needs to attack Trump's character, we only need to state the truth and reality of who he is and what he does. 

You may not have noticed the changes in Trump's speech but many people have noticed all across the globe. 

Trump Speaking Style

Trump's 8th Grade Language Skills

Is Something Neurologically Wrong With Donald Trump?

Just now, toomuchbaloney said:

Again...if teleprompter reading ability is your trigger for cognitive decline then how did you even give Trump a passing grade? Have toy ever listened to Trump's rambling rants that jump from thought to thought? Have you never read a transcript in which Trump was clearly confused about the subject, there's quite a few to choose from. 

And now you want to suggest that a confused look or odd gait is your concern as if you don't remember Trump getting helped down a a gentle slope or some of the crazy rants.  

Holy hell man...have you paid attention at all for the past 4 years?

Holly man!! Or come on man! Have you paid attention to the last 5 min? I said I know they all use it. It's more than a confused look something I saw in my parents(doesn't qualify a medical diagnosis). I also said "in my opinion" then backed it with examples.  I also did not use it the degrade Biden either. Or the opinion of who I was replying to that I disagreed with. You should go back and read what the OP of the comment I was replying to. He/she respectfully disagreed and asked me for further explanation. Without insulting me or even Trump. You should study that in your retirement and your psychology.  

"Helped down a gentleman slope?. Biden fell up the stairs twice.  Got lost in his front yard. 

Commonman! 

3 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Just because you don't like what Biden says does not mean that he has dementia...Trump started that lie. No one needs to attack Trump's character, we only need to state the truth and reality of who he is and what he does. 

You may not have noticed the changes in Trump's speech but many people have noticed all across the globe. 

Trump Speaking Style

Trump's 8th Grade Language Skills

Is Something Neurologically Wrong With Donald Trump?

Those all refer to what he says and how. Not if he comprehends his verbal expression. He may very well speak like a grade 8, but he articulates ideas into his thought process and can finalize ideas verbally. Eloquently? No. See. I can admit Trump is bad with words and I often cringe at his boisterous wording. You wouldn't criticisize Biden over anything. 

Further more those sources are just as bias as anything else. Allot of people think like you where Trump all bad, Biden all good. So of course there's going to be articles like the ones you cited. I could find three more to counteract them...