PPTS - ADN Degree

suzanne4, RN · Jul 25, 2008

Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you cannot get a visa for the US with the ADN completed in your country. The Philippines does not even recognize it for licensure either.

And it does not meet the requirements to get a visa for the US.

Testing and immigration are twom very different things.

Take the time to do some reading on this site about this type of program, and save your money.

The other fact that you have to take into account is that there is a minimum of five year wait for a chance at a visa for the US, and expected to get longer; and you will not be able to work anywhere in the world with that training as other countries require the local license and you will not be able to sit for it.

I would most definitely reconsider what you are wishing to do.

Hoss · Jul 25, 2008

This is a very cleverly disguised website that states "Assoc. Science Degree" allows a student to "Challenge NCLEX-RN".

First problem is, even if you take the NCLEX RN, you must have a CHED approved University Degree as a Bachelor of Science in order to be eligible for licensure as an RN in the Philippines. The NCLEX is a US Based Test, and is of NO VALUE TO THE TAKER without a BSN degree from the Philippines. The BSN program is 4 years plus 3 mandatory summers (i.e. a 5 yr. BSN degree course schedule)

You cannot apply for work in the USA without a valid green card allowing you to pursue an RN status in the USA. The US REQUIRES a BSN from the Philippines in order to even apply for this green card. Then a Visa Screen certification of your University courses and the successful completion of the NCLEX are also required before taking the state board exams in the USA. Finally, many states are now requiring that you successfully pass the Philippine National License Exam (NLE) and obtain RN certification upon graduating a BSN to qualify as a US based Nurse and take a state board of nursing exam.

Commission on Higher Education (CHED) does not recognize "vocational school" degree programs such as EMT / LVN / LPN or a so called "Assoc. Science degree". In essence you will have spent two years for a degree that means NOTHING in the Philippines OR the USA. Your only hope is that some of the credit may be applied to an approved BSN program but more likely as not you will be required to take the full course study in order to complete your Nursing degree.

Or you may wish to apply for a student visa and attend a US based 3 year ADN or LVN 2 year program in the USA. For the nurse ADN however, there is a very long waiting list.

Once again, no shortcuts to the very hard road of education as a Nurse in the Philippines. Save your money or enroll in a true BSN program here.

Hoss

suzanne4, RN · Jul 25, 2008

Please also be aware that even if you attend school in the US, it does not guarantee that you will be able to remain here when you finish.

And the two year degree from the US is not accepted in most other countries either.

As Hoss mentioned, you would be much wiser to save your money, the only that will be helped is the owner of the school.

Same way that you see this same school advertising for the LPN programs, and that of course you can write the NCLEX-PN exam, however, they fail to tell anyone that there is no legal visa available for those that hold that training.

Just a little-bitty fact that they continue to leave out from their advertising.

redlabel · Jul 25, 2008

Hello Everyone... I am planning to take up ADN this comming october through PPTS, Philippine Paramedical Technical School. They have a 2 year Associate Degree in Nursing program and advertised that graduates could take the NCLEX-RN and become an RN in the states... here is a link to their website, Philippine Paramedical Technical School
Please tell me on your thoughts on this. And has enyone ever graduated from this school and had successfully worked in the US. Thank you very much...:nuke:

yeah go ahead sometimes you need to decide yourself there are some ppts in other area but i would recommend in davao

suzanne4, RN · Jul 25, 2008

There are no nurses from this program that have received visas to work in the US with that training. There has also been a retrogression in place for almost two years as well.

And if you are going to look at more than five years for a green card, whichj is not possible and no possibilities of work experience, what do you think your chances of getting a visa would be without a local license?

Rule one: if your country does not accept the training for licensure, why in the world should another country be obligated to do so.

Please take the time to do some reading about this program, you are not going to be able to do a thing with it, no matter what the school promises.

Advanced Practice Columnist / Guide · Jul 25, 2008

That website for that Philippine Paramedical Technical Schools is full of blatant lies. They have the US-based accreding body, the National League of Nursing (NLN), listed as an affiliate. This school is not accredited by NLN and in fact, NLN does not accredit schools outside of the US. They also listed the National Association for Practical Nurse Education and Service, Inc (NAPNES) as an affiliate and nowhere in the NAPNES website does it indicate that PPTS is a member school or program. Both NLN and NAPNES should be made aware of these claims and have this school stop using the NLN and NAPNES logo/link in the PPTS website. What a shame!

gioangeles2000 · Aug 3, 2008

This is a very cleverly disguised website that states "Assoc. Science Degree" allows a student to "Challenge NCLEX-RN".
First problem is, even if you take the NCLEX RN, you must have a CHED approved University Degree as a Bachelor of Science in order to be eligible for licensure as an RN in the Philippines. The NCLEX is a US Based Test, and is of NO VALUE TO THE TAKER without a BSN degree from the Philippines. The BSN program is 4 years plus 3 mandatory summers (i.e. a 5 yr. BSN degree course schedule)
You cannot apply for work in the USA without a valid green card allowing you to pursue an RN status in the USA. The US REQUIRES a BSN from the Philippines in order to even apply for this green card. Then a Visa Screen certification of your University courses and the successful completion of the NCLEX are also required before taking the state board exams in the USA. Finally, many states are now requiring that you successfully pass the Philippine National License Exam (NLE) and obtain RN certification upon graduating a BSN to qualify as a US based Nurse and take a state board of nursing exam.
Commission on Higher Education (CHED) does not recognize "vocational school" degree programs such as EMT / LVN / LPN or a so called "Assoc. Science degree". In essence you will have spent two years for a degree that means NOTHING in the Philippines OR the USA. Your only hope is that some of the credit may be applied to an approved BSN program but more likely as not you will be required to take the full course study in order to complete your Nursing degree.
Or you may wish to apply for a student visa and attend a US based 3 year ADN or LVN 2 year program in the USA. For the nurse ADN however, there is a very long waiting list.
Once again, no shortcuts to the very hard road of education as a Nurse in the Philippines. Save your money or enroll in a true BSN program here.
Hoss

what happen if your already a U.S citizen and a grad from PPTS with adn diploma?

suzanne4, RN · Aug 3, 2008

Many states in the US are requiring the local license now before they will permit one to even sit for the NCLEX exam, and if one hold dual citizenship, then they are required to have the NLE passed. But a bigger problem is that the Philippines does not recognize the two year ADN program for licensure, and that is actually a requirement of most of the US states as well.

The two year programs there also do not have the best of reputations at all, so that is another strike against them. Most facilities that are aware of what is going on there now will not even consider a graduate from those programs.

The only ones that benefit are the owners of the programs.

gioangeles2000 · Aug 3, 2008

wow thanks ....

khirbz · Aug 8, 2008

I just feel sorry for my friends who are already graduates of this course.

suzanne4, RN · Aug 8, 2008

They need to make some commotion there about these programs and not let the schools get away with this.

Even looking at it from another view point, there are no visas available at this time; so even if this training qualified for a visa, but it does not; how would the person get experience while waiting for five years plus for a chance at a green card? Your country does not accept it for licensure, so no experience to be obtained there and almost all of the other countries require a local license, so that becomes a moot point then as well. And we are expecting the US to start to require experience, just like the other countries. Even if they do not, not having worked in the field of nursing since training and it is going to be quite hard to get thru the interview if it was available to the ADN graduate from your country.

They need to put a stop to these programs as well as the LPN program, there is no way to get a visa for the US and these schools do not tell the prospective student this. And it also is the responsibility of any student to always find out what they can actually do with a training and not rely on what the school is stating as we are seeing more schools lie or tell partial truths to get someone to sign up with them.

But if no one does anything, then they will continue on their merry little ways collecting money from unsuspecting students.

And shame on these schools.:banghead::banghead: