Any UCSF Mepn Applicants? - page 9
Hi everyone-- Has anyone else out there applied to the UCSF MEPN program? They're supposed to send out letters this month (December) for the interview process. Has anyone gotten a letter yet? Will... Read More
Dec 21, '06Good morning CameronRex,
Yeah, College of Marin is also a lottery system. I applied last year, and believe me it stings when you are at the top of the class and your (academically) mediocre classmates are admitted. What a wierd system. Bah!
Sounds like with letters from UCSF doctors that you must have some bedside experience---have you thought about PA school? UC Davis has a great one. My understanding is that admission to PA school requires a certain number of hours working in a medical environment...
Have a good time with your family--surround yourself with supportive people, and be good to yourself. This IS hard.
Dec 21, '06Hey guys
I got an interview for the FNP specialty track.....is there anybody else out there who got an interview for this specialty?
Also, to some of you who didn't get interviews, I heard that it is easier to get in the second time round...many people I know got in the second time, but not the first time, actually ALL of the people who I know who are in the program got in their second time applying. So don't give up! This is a grueling process, with a lot of hoops to jump through...and it is very very discouraging, but they do say that UCSF does give a slight advantage to applicants who have applied more than once!
Also, if you didn't get an interview and you applied to the FNP specialty, Samuel Merritt in Oakland is still accepting applications (applications are due January 15th)! Although they do require more pre-reqs...but just as long as you take the pre-reqs before program entry, it is fine!
Anyways, good luck to all of you and happy holidays!
Dec 21, '06Hi all
I"m a new registered member (been lurking for months) but I just HAD to post, as I just received my dreaded thin letter from UCSF yesterday. It's not like I didn't know this was a competative program, but I really didn't reallistcally plan for the rejection. You know -- was trying to focus on the positive. I did have a vague "plan B" which is to apply again next year (which I will definitely do), but I now have other things to work out, like getting a job (I was laid off this summer), blah blah blah. I'll think about my path after the holidays. For sure I am going to try to get input from the program after Feb 1 '07 as to how I can stregthen my application -- although CameronRex's post makes a little cynical about that. But UCSF's program is excellent and it's really the only one I am interested in in this general area (SF Bay Area). Moving out of the area isn't an option for me.
Congratulations to all of you who got accepted!!!! I am especially encouraged by SciFry's acceptance, as I am 45 and wondered if my age was a factor. Anyhow, I hope you all enjoy the program and get out there and make a difference in the nursing world!
Dec 22, '06Hello UCSF applicants,
I still have yet to get a letter. I spent all morning dreading going to the mailbox and nothing came.
I'm not sure what to think regarding this program. All of you seem so well qualified! I haven't worked as a CNA or anything but have worked in several medical settings and did some random volunteer work including teaching English to Russian immigrants, mentoring female undergraduate science majors, and tutoring, so who knows. After I graduated from college, I realized that I can't necessarily AFFORD to do long-term volunteer projects and I don't even have a family, so I can't imagine how hard it must be for older applicants with children.
I'll be really bummed if I don't get an interview. I visited San Francisco last year on vacation (I'm from Illinois) and, just like most everyone, I fell in love with the place. I know that no matter what program I end up doing, I'm eventually going to move to the bay area anyway, so UCSF seemed like the perfect choice for me.
I didn't realize that the two interviews are not on the same day. This scares me. It's already going to cost me $500 bucks for the airfare if I get an interview. At least I have some friends to stay with near the school.
To all those who got rejected, I'm sorry to hear this. You will all, I'm sure, get into great programs and I wish you luck!
Dec 22, '06Hi chickpea,
I saw somewhere in previous posts that the UCSF MEPN interview is split over two days for local applicants, but is crammed into one day for people coming from farther away.
Dec 22, '06Sadness: rejected by UCSF this morning.
Honestly, I don't know what the magic formula is for that school. I bet it's the fact that while I have worked in a bunch of medical settings, I've never had direct care experience with patients. Ivy league undergrad, majored in science, did research, fine GRE scores, As in all my prerequisites, lots of volunteer work, speak Russian, in the process of learning Spanish, and letters of recommendation from highly esteemed physicians. Heck, I got into medical school and chose to do nursing instead! Who knows. After I read about all of your backgrounds, I knew that there's something entirely basic they must be looking for and maybe the whole stellar background thing is not it? It's a mystery! As for those who got interviews, good luck!
I don't think I'll reapply, as I hope to get into at least one of the other schools I applied to and would be perfectly fine attending any one of them. I just really wanted to live in San Francisco : (
Dec 22, '06Just a thought......
There MUST be a big part of this process that is simply a numbers game. There is no way that only 150 out of 600+ applicants would be both a good match for the program, and good nurses as well. Surely there must be many, many people for whom not being invited is almost arbitrary. Who knows what factors come into play, including balancing the class demographically.
There are probably a fair number of applicants who are really not prepared or qualified, but I do not believe it is the majority.
I hope that all of you who are determined to become nurses will. There are many roads, including finding ways to step in and care for people now. We need you.
If I am not invited into the program, I will find another way, and I hope you will too.
Dec 23, '06Dear SciFry,
I don't think your statement that "there are probably a fair number of applicants who are really not prepared or qualified, but I do not believe it is the majority..." was very nice of you to say. All of the mepns that I have met, year after year are very talented and absolutely driven individuals. I have yet to meet one who was "not really prepared or qualified." Each of the ones I've met were truly unique and had something special about them that really made them stand out in my mind. I have always been impressed with each succeeding crop I've encountered. And in terms of balancing the classes...I do not believe there is a magical formula targeted. It seems that of large number I've met, each one of them had their own unique and wonderful story, and I could see the excitement in their eyes! Congratulations on those of you who have been asked to move forward and best wishes to all.
Dec 23, '06Quote from mepn64Mepn64,Dear SciFry,
I don't think your statement that "there are probably a fair number of applicants who are really not prepared or qualified, but I do not believe it is the majority..." was very nice of you to say.
Thanks for the congratulations and good wishes, but I feel I just have to jump in here. I think that what scifry was trying to say was that the majority of applicants to the mepn program are extraordinary people who are highly driven and likely to suceed and excel as future nurses. Because of this, even highly qualified applicants must be denied interviews because of the sheer number of well-qualified applicants.
I think her comment about applicants being not prepared was meant more along the lines of while there might be some applicants (not current or past mepns) who are unprepared, the majority are. Thus, after putting aside the applications from those who aren't prepared out of the 600+ who apply, you're still left with a large number of applicants who would all likely be a great fit for the mepn program. Unfortunately, only 150 could be selected to move on, but that doesn't necessarily mean that those not selected were any less qualified. Rather, at some point when dealing with that many amazing people, the cut has to be made somewhere, and I think what scifry was trying to say is that in this case it might be arbitrary.
I certainly don't feel she was trying to be mean, but rather encourage those who weren't selected to interview that there wasn't necessarily anyhing "wrong" with their applications, but just a poor luck of the draw. If anything, after hearing some of the backgrounds of those not granted an interview, I'm more convinced than ever that the mepn classes must be an extraordinary group of people.
Just my two cents...
Dec 24, '06Elenaroo -
Thanks for the clarification - you understood exactly what I was trying to say!
Dec 24, '06I'm sure all the MEPN students are great. I mean, that must be the case. I'm also aware that to narrow the interviewing pool is extremely difficult. As an undergrad, I worked in the admissions office at my university and am well aware of how hard it is to turn down applicants. I have a feeling that my lack of direct care experience was the reason I was not interviewed. I had a realistic view of the admissions process at UCSF, especially since I have two friends who are in medical school there and one in graduate shool in immunology. I knew from the get go what I was dealing with. I was also applying with a typical "pre-med" profile, not a "pre-nursing" profile which, ironically, means that my lack of real world experience was a hindrance to me when applying to nursing programs. Med schools don't necessarily weigh that as much. It's mostly grades and MCAT scores.
Applying to medical school was a daunting process and in the end, I only got into one school from the vast number I applied to, so when I chose to do nursing instead, I was prepared for a competitive admissions process.
I'm planning to work as a medical assistant in the next couple of months to gain more practical experience and hope that I will be able to enter one of the direct entry programs I applied to in the fall. I have an interview at Yale scheduled, which is exciting, and welcome news after yesterday's disappointment.
Dec 24, '06I also received my rejection several days ago from UCSF
I am also confused on why UCSF didn't EVEN invite me to an interview.
I applied to the Psych NP program and was invited to interviews to both University of Washington and UPenn. Both of these school actually had a better ranking than UCSF in psych. And for your info, University of Washington is only interviewing the top 50 applicants out of the hundreds they received. Thus, I was really starting to doubt myself when I found out that I was not even the top 150 applicants for UCSF while also being an extremely top candidate for the University of Washington.
I just want to say, "Don't give up!!!!!" We are all going to become a great advanced practicing nurses. Every school just have a different standards and qualities they are looking for in a master's entry applicant. Because I received an early admit to Western University MSN-E program yesterday without even having to attend an interview becaurse I totally meet Western's standard for their entry program.
So here's my final note to my future fellow nurses: Don't give up! Apply to more programs and we are all going to become a great NP or CNS!!!
Dec 29, '06I am a finalist for the MEPN at UCSF too.
Good luck to all of you and Happy New Year!Last edit by bambou on Jul 17, '07