Please don't judge me and my daughter

The night my daughter told me she wanted to kill herself was not an easy night. I drove her to the Emergency room that I used to work in, thinking they would care for her best. What I found was not true, and as a nurse and Nurse Practitioner I'm going to tell my story in hopes of making a change to the world I thought I loved, the world of nursing. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

The night my daughter told me she wanted to kill herself was not an easy night. I drove her to the Emergency room that I used to work in, thinking they would care for her best. What I found was not true, and as a nurse and Nurse Practitioner, I'm going to tell my story in hopes of making a change to the world I thought I loved, the world of nursing.

I now want to leave the only thing I've ever known because I don't want to be associated with cold, judgmental nursing with cold punishing eyes. I didn't ask for my daughter to be so depressed that she couldn't find another solution. The cold look in your eyes at me and my daughter spoke volumes.

I hope you never are faced with this fear or with the overwhelming feeling of failure that I felt as a mother that night. Your job wasn't to pass judgement or to be so cold-hearted that my skin crawled. Your job, my sister, was to look at me and feel empathy and understanding. Your job, my fellow nurse, was to accept that I was in crisis and going through my routine was the glue holding me together. That included bringing my meals with me because, besides nursing, my life in fitness was the only thing that made sense to me and filled me with the same passion nursing used to.

Your cursing under your breath at the TV showed that you didn't see nursing as an art. To you, it was just a job that paid the bills. Your lack of compassion and not introducing yourself before you drew my daughter's blood showed me you thought my daughter was weak; while in my eyes, she is very strong because she reached out to me so she was able to get the help she needed.

And to you the nurse who said it looked like we were camping out. Did you consider not everyone lives the same lifestyle and some of us may need food because of our way of life? Did you notice I kept everything neat and then cleaned up before we left? Did you consider that I needed that food and water to keep me from falling apart? How do you know that it wasn't for my daughter who has food allergies? As far as my daughter's belongings we had hoped she was coming home with me and she did. But you made us put them in my car and she walked out in the lovely paper scrubs provided for her.

You didn't touch a life that night. Your lasting impression left me cold and disheartened for nursing. You left me embarrassed to tell others of the profession that I so dearly loved for so many years. If it's true nurses eat their young, it's also true that the nurse of today is not doing what the nurses of yesterday set out to do.

Yes, I realize that my daughter may have been your tenth suicidal patient of that particular shift or week. I also realize she may have been your first. Either way, she deserved understanding and gentleness in your care, not detachment and cursing and rude comments passed. I deserved professional courtesy and maybe a distracting conversation.

Again I pray that no one in your families suffers from such depression that they see no other way out. I hope that they go on to live beautiful productive lives. As my daughter will not because a nurse in the Emergency Department touched her life and changed it for the better but because her mother, also a nurse, never stopped looking at nursing as an art.

i would love to know what the disrespect toward 'typical er nurses' is all about. what don't you understand about the cold hard fact that ER's are NOT ABLE OR EQUIPPED to handle psychiatric problems. that's the same as asking why we can't take out someone's appendix, or put in a pacemaker in the ER. that's what specialists are for. ER docs are not psychiatrists, surgeons, or cardiologists. our job is to triage, stabilize, treat what we are able, d/c or admit as required for the pt.

Specializes in Med-Surg/Neuro/Oncology floor nursing..

I don't understand why so many people are taking it personally that the OP had nothing nice to say about the nurse. Sometimes people are just miserable human beings, no excuses to be made they just are. I didn't take away from the OP that all ER nurses are cold and uncaring. Just the OPs nurse. When I had surgery and I was in the PACU waiting for a Neuro ICU bed to open up I asked my nurse for a particular medication I was due for. She gave me an attitude like I was a burden and creating a chore for her. And this nurse knew I worked in that hospital(I didn't know her personally but from passing in the hallways and giving/taking report on patients on the phone). This nurse was just a miserable person and unfortunaltey she let it show through her work. My aunt and mom were at the bedside and all my aunt could say was "wow she really must not like her job much." Believe me I understand we all have bad days and have the potential to see horrible, unjust things(the stillborn baby, the 3 year old in a coma due to the actions of his father, the 30 year old mother of three DOA due to cardiac arrest and so on) but that is no excuse to give anyone let alone a patient attitude. Cursing under your breath at the TV is just unprofessional. Even if you are having a bad day and would rather be anywhere but work, at least pretend you want to be there in front of the patients. At the very least if the ops nurse was just having a bad day she acted in a very unprofessional manner by taking her bad day out on her patient(s).

Luckily the hospital I work in is a huge city teaching hospital with over 1,000 beds and we have a CPEP(for those that dont know that stands for comprehensive psychiatric emergency program..layman's terms its a psych ER) so people in psychiatric emergencies don't have to go to the regular ER that is unequipped to deal with psych patients. Also if someone comes in saying they are suicidal they are a slam dunk admit..they will 939 admit them if they don't want to be admitted. Anyway in my hospital you have to be medically cleared to go to the inpatient wards(every admission needs to have a chest film and a blood draw). If they have something else going on medically or if for example they attempted suicide and survived but sustained injuries they go to the medical floors for tx before they are sent to the psych unit. I have seen many nurses I work with on the med floors treat these patients with disdain. Its a shame. Now of course most treat these patients with compassion and care but stigma about mental illness is something that needs to be eliminated entirely or else these people is psychic pain won't seek help when they need it the most. Some people are just uncomfortable around the mentally ill..plain and simple.

Anyway OP I hope you and your daughter are doing brtter...im not a parent myself but I imagine seeing your daughter in pain is a nightmare you never want to experience again. It says a lot about you that your daughter is comfortable to approach you with her problems.

When I was 7 months pregnant I was in the process of moving out of state, I was living in one state but had Medicaid in another. Yes, I was poor. Yes, I LOOKED poor. Anyways, I was hospitalized for severe dehydration, taken to the ER, then dumped on the Maternity floor. The nurses rolled their eyes and said "why is the ER giving us all the patients they don't want??" Fast forward, I get a room and an IV of normal saline, and a nurse comes in and hooks me up to a fetal monitor just as a social worker comes in to ask me about my out of state Medicaid insurance. I start crying as I have no clue how insurance works, I'm hormonal, the staff said I was already a burden from the ER, and I'm sick. The social worker leaves and the nurse proceeds to lecture me about my insurance, my living situation, my job, and ends by saying "you know your ob/gyn wants to get paid, you need to change your insurance to the state you currently live in now." I was dumbfounded and sobbed from embarrassment. The next week I told my mother what happened (she's an OR nurse at the same hospital) and she "had words" with that particular OB nurse and my delivery and labor experience were much better. But she told me "they treat you like that because you're a young girl on Medicaid" anyways long story short: it's been years since that experience and I went into nursing to CHANGE that so it never happens to another patient as long as I can help it. I PROMISE YOU WITH MY WHOLE HEART when you, or your loved one is my patient I will do my best to care for you. To provide judge free and kind care. Quality care. Compassionate care. When you are my patient you are my family because I CARE ABOUT EVERY SINGLE PERSON. I'm sorry about your bad experience. Please forgive them and their negligence.

Specializes in ER.

CardiacUnderground, That was just low down dirty rude. I'm sure the floors snark sometimes about getting patients from the ER, and patients aren't supposed to be in earshot. But then to come in and give you a lecture. Mother of Pearl!! That was unacceptable.

When I was 7 months pregnant I was in the process of moving out of state, I was living in one state but had Medicaid in another. Yes, I was poor. Yes, I LOOKED poor. Anyways, I was hospitalized for severe dehydration, taken to the ER, then dumped on the Maternity floor. The nurses rolled their eyes and said "why is the ER giving us all the patients they don't want??" Fast forward, I get a room and an IV of normal saline, and a nurse comes in and hooks me up to a fetal monitor just as a social worker comes in to ask me about my out of state Medicaid insurance. I start crying as I have no clue how insurance works, I'm hormonal, the staff said I was already a burden from the ER, and I'm sick. The social worker leaves and the nurse proceeds to lecture me about my insurance, my living situation, my job, and ends by saying "you know your ob/gyn wants to get paid, you need to change your insurance to the state you currently live in now." I was dumbfounded and sobbed from embarrassment. The next week I told my mother what happened (she's an OR nurse at the same hospital) and she "had words" with that particular OB nurse and my delivery and labor experience were much better. But she told me "they treat you like that because you're a young girl on Medicaid" anyways long story short: it's been years since that experience and I went into nursing to CHANGE that so it never happens to another patient as long as I can help it. I PROMISE YOU WITH MY WHOLE HEART when you, or your loved one is my patient I will do my best to care for you. To provide judge free and kind care. Quality care. Compassionate care. When you are my patient you are my family because I CARE ABOUT EVERY SINGLE PERSON. I'm sorry about your bad experience. Please forgive them and their negligence.

You go, Friend!!!

For OP, yes I know this is an old thread, but I have to say Don't think all of today's nurses are awful. Many are like this poster (Cardiac Underground). Just that people are sometimes ignorant and fallible human beings. We can't all always be all things to everyone. Not saying it's right, but it is reality.

I do hope your daughter is doing a lot better, you too. God bless.

Um ok... First I will say I am very sorry that your daughter is having a hard time, I hope she gets help and her road forward is smooth. One of the only things in this article I can agree with is that your daughter is very strong for asking for help. But wow...

The title of your post is don't judge yet the whole article is judgement... or a creative writing assignment. What on earth does not introducing yourself have to do with deciding your daughter is not strong. That was very rude, but the rest is YOUR judgement of her thoughts and quite a leap. Cursing at the tv (inappropriate) means this nurse doesn't take her entire profession seriously? No judgement there at all.

The nurses may have been a bit unnerved as it sounds like you moved in a great deal of belongings into an Emergency Room , with a small exam room and a patient at risk for harm. You say you needed routine in a crisis. This was one evening in an ER, your daughter was suicidal and you stopped to pack meals (plural) , enough water to comment on, belongings, and then stopped in for an emergency intervention. You write as one night and a bad nurse makes you embarrassed of the entire profession, the state of nursing today all because of a rude nurse, paper scrubs, and a lack of distracting conversation. Then came home and wrote flowery prose...

Your daughter came home with you. This was the EMERGENCY ROOM. People should have more compassion, they could have been kinder. They could have coded several people while you were there. Perspective , you need some. For someone who says don't judge , remember glass houses.

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I agree

It would be interesting to have been there , to see and hear, what Really went on

Your entire post is nothing but Judgement. Mayne thats why YOU included the word Judgement in your title

And sounds as if you moved a Shoot- ton of crap in the ER treatment area. " To comfort you "

Speaks volumes. I thought it was your Daughter who was depressed and , unfortunately, attempted suicide. Not you. Pardon that your " sisters " weren't more sensitive to your myriad of needs

Yes this is a " harsh " post but , I M O , you sound like a narcissist

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