do physical therapists make more money than RNs?

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I was just curious...thanks!

I think that higher education is of great value , however, I think knowledge and experience are grossly under-rated. I am in school for my MSN right now, so I do value education. I think we ned to look at the content of nursing education. I am all for the BSN if it "builds a better nurse." Uniformly, across the board, it does not. That has been the case for the past 40+ years. The nurse with the hands on experience is best prepared, IMHO. Sure critical thinking skilss are great. Delegation is great, but the person who can get in there and DO is a very valuable team member and less likely to get frustrated with what the day to day job of nursing requires. When accrediting agencies decide a BSN program provides the most clinical experience in its curriculum, then I will be on the front of that bandwagon. Until, then, a person must look individually at the program he/she wants to attend. It makes it all a little confusing. Do Pt's who have a BS degree (as you could 20 years ago) usually return for the MS or DPT and if so do they make more $? I think PT's earn more than RN's because they can directly bill the insurance companies. In some cases dental hygienists earn more than RN's because they also can directly bill insurance for their education. It is possible to get an Associate's or BS degree in this occupation as well. Some people, have a MS in dental hygiene. I believe my alma mater U of MD offres this option. My point is not always does more education =more $. It should but it doesn't. Ask a nurse educator!

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but it won't change MY mind of how important higher education is.

Higher education, or BSN education? Are you aware that a lot of new ADN grads already have degrees in another field? Do these degrees not mean as much as a nursing degree?

Also, I'm wondering how you feel about the ADN-BSN online classes. Honestly. I'm curious how the majority of BSNs feel about obtaining the "BSN" status this way.

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I'm glad there's another nurse here that is not afraid of standing up for what she/he believes in. The diploma/adn prepared rns will bash us until no end (well, until this thread is closed), but it won't change MY mind of how important higher education is.

i don't consider a bachelor's degree higher ed. it is still an undergraduate degree.

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i don't consider a bachelor's degree higher ed. it is still an undergraduate degree.

That's a good point.

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Higher education, or BSN education? Are you aware that a lot of new ADN grads already have degrees in another field? Do these degrees not mean as much as a nursing degree?

Also, I'm wondering how you feel about the ADN-BSN online classes. Honestly. I'm curious how the majority of BSNs feel about obtaining the "BSN" status this way.

i think that's great.

you're then an rn bs or an rn ba.

i feel very strongly that nurses should be college educated like dieticians, physical therapists and speech therapists.

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i can imagine capitalizing every first letter in a sentence. i can imagine capitalizing the proper pronoun "i" to signify its importance. i can imagine appearing intelligent in both my writing and thoughts.

i was working towards my degree in microbiology when i changed over to nursing. i already have more credits in math, biology, chemistry and physics than any nursing program. but, since your program studied florence nightingale and jeanwatson, i guess that makes you better...umm, i mean smarter. not.

imagine all nurses uniting together, some getting off their moral high ground and all being nurses-if only for a moment. imagine.....

hmmm...my program never covered florence nightingale or jean watson...and i doubt you had more science curricula than my program.

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If you read my post, I said that I had more credits due to my progress in my Micro degree than most nursing programs.

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Higher education, or BSN education? Are you aware that a lot of new ADN grads already have degrees in another field? Do these degrees not mean as much as a nursing degree?

Also, I'm wondering how you feel about the ADN-BSN online classes. Honestly. I'm curious how the majority of BSNs feel about obtaining the "BSN" status this way.

Higher education...not just BSN. I AM aware that many ADNs have higher degrees in another field. I think it depends on what the previous BA or BS degree was. If the curriculum pertains to nursing than sure. I say ADN-BSN programs are fine. I'm not familiar with ADN-BSN Online classes, so I have no opinion about obtaining BSN this way.

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Well, I intend on continuing on with my BSN, and really wondered what the community felt like as far as these classes. I'd hate to be bombarded with "well, you're just an online BSN, not a real BSN".

Back to the orignial topic......at my hospital, PTs are Bachleors prepared as the entry level, and they make the same as a nurse (so says the website).

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i can imagine capitalizing every first letter in a sentence. i can imagine capitalizing the proper pronoun "i" to signify its importance. i can imagine appearing intelligent in both my writing and thoughts.

i was working towards my degree in microbiology when i changed over to nursing. i already have more credits in math, biology, chemistry and physics than any nursing program. but, since your program studied florence nightingale and jeanwatson, i guess that makes you better...umm, i mean smarter. not.

imagine all nurses uniting together, some getting off their moral high ground and all being nurses-if only for a moment. imagine.....

:yeahthat: :yeah: :yelclap:

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catlady, rn,c, b.a., m.a., ccrn

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i can imagine capitalizing every first letter in a sentence. i can imagine capitalizing the proper pronoun "i" to signify its importance. i can imagine appearing intelligent in both my writing and thoughts.

i was working towards my degree in microbiology when i changed over to nursing. i already have more credits in math, biology, chemistry and physics than any nursing program. but, since your program studied florence nightingale and jeanwatson, i guess that makes you better...umm, i mean smarter. not.

imagine all nurses uniting together, some getting off their moral high ground and all being nurses-if only for a moment. imagine.....

i can not figure out the point of your reply.

are you saying that bc you have all these credits you are smarter or just as smart?? that makes no sense. no one mentioned who was smarter. i was agreeing with the point that rns should unite and decide that a college degree, whether it be a bachelor in science or art, should be our common educational denominator.

i am not on some 'moral high ground.' i am pro education. please do not label me, as i would not do that to you.

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If you read my post, I said that I had more credits due to my progress in my Micro degree than most nursing programs.

Yes, I read your post. I didn't misunderstand what you said. I still say list the classes you've taken and line them up next to the classes my university requires for BSN and they will be very similar. Not only that, but comparing my program I graduated from with any ADN program and I had more clinical hours. That may not be typical, we may have been lucky with the number of hours we had.

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