One thing that is nails on chalkboard to me is when I hear my fellow nurses use double negatives and other blatant grammar mistakes. I'm speaking of English as a first language, domestically born and raised people.
I feel as this detracts from the professional image of nursing. We are supposed to be educated professionals. Poor grammar makes nursing look like a blue collar trade to those who are educated, such as our physicians and many members of the public.
Let me clarify that I don't harshly judge the intelligence or moral character of people with poor grammar. But, I feel strongly that nurses should project an image of being educated professionals in our speech and demeanor. Thanks for reading.
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Depends how you use it,I would expect to orientate someone new to the unit,with several days of orientation until they became orientated. How do you use "oriented"
"Orientate" is not a word. Try looking it up in a dictionary. To "orient" someone is to give them direction so that they can find their way (you might need to "find your way" in many things in life). When you do that as a formal process, it is called "orientation." When the person finishes that process they are not "orientated," they either have been "oriented" or have "completed orientation."
"orientate" is not a word. try looking it up in a dictionary. to "orient" someone is to give them direction so that they can find their way (you might need to "find your way" in many things in life). when you do that as a formal process, it is called "orientation." when the person finishes that process they are not "orientated," they either have been "oriented" or have "completed orientation."
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v.tr. to orient: [color=#226699]"he . . . stood for a moment, orientating himself exactly in the light of his knowledge"[color=#226699]john le carré.
orientated adj : adjusted or located in relation to surroundings or circumstances; sometimes used in combination; "the house had its large windows oriented toward the ocean view"; "helping freshmen become oriented to college life"; "the book is value-oriented throughout" [syn: [color=#660000]oriented] [ant: [color=#660000]unoriented]
source: webster's revised unabridged dictionary (1913)orientate \o"ri*en*tate\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. orientated; p. pr. & vb. n. [color=#660000]orientating.] [from [color=#660000]orient.] 1. to place or turn toward the east; to cause to assume an easterly direction, or to veer eastward. 2. to arrange in order; to dispose or place (a body) so as to show its relation to other bodies, or the relation of its parts among themselves. a crystal is orientated when placed in its proper position so as to exhibit its symmetry. --e. s. http://dict.die.net/orientated/ dana.
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Well, bless my soul! I never knew there was such a word. We certainly were never taught it at any school I attended, but that is one of the reasons I like AllNurses and Nursing in general-there is always something else to learn. I was wrong about "orientate" but hopefully the rest of the definitions and usage for "orient" are helpful.
I would expect to orient someone to the unit. After a few weeks of orientation, they would have been oriented.
That's how I understand it as well.
Also a patient is alert and oriented, not alert and orientated (which I also hear, frequently). I'm sorry but I twitch and go a little nutty when I hear it, hehehe :trout::trout::trout:
But hey, if Webster says it is OK, maybe I can let go if it a bit!!! Thanks for the info!!!!!
Also a patient is alert and oriented, not alert and orientated (which I also hear, frequently). I'm sorry but I twitch and go a little nutty when I hear it, hehehe :trout::trout::trout:
See my above post, both are correct. Orientated is a word and a synomym for oriented.
I remember when I was newly employed at my previous hospital, I got corrected when I said "orientated". So I went home and looked it up and found out that both are correct! So, now I defend the right of people to use that word. I think it's more common in the United Kingdom.
I must admit that I am one of those people that quietly notes poor grammar and unfairly equates it with intelligence level. Sorry.... I can't help it. Please don't assume that I do not like people who use poor grammar, I just wouldn't ask them to do my taxes.
I must admit that I am one of those people that quietly notes poor grammar and unfairly equates it with intelligence level. Sorry.... I can't help it. Please don't assume that I do not like people who use poor grammar, I just wouldn't ask them to do my taxes.
I actually know some very smart, educated people who use poor grammar. It is like street talk: they grew up with it and they use it because it's comfortable to them. I know an aeronautical engineer who always says I seen. My friend was taking an engineering course and would laugh at how the professor used horrible grammar like I don't got no more...I know a doctor who told me that don't help me none...he always talks this way unless it is a patient or someone he's worried about impressing.
I am driven mad when I see people misspell certain words. And I see it every day here on the Board.
As for attorneys, let me tell you - lately, I have seen attorneys and even teachers do a whole boatload of misspelling. Lately = when my kids were in school and I was interacting with teachers, so it's a few years ago. I volunteered to edit their school newsletter so I could correct their errors. It really drove me mad.
Definite is correct, not "defanite" or "definate". Definite.
Of course, Bush says "newkuler", instead "new clee er".
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I am driven mad when I see people misspell certain words. And I see it every day here on the Board.
As for attorneys, let me tell you - lately, I have seen attorneys and even teachers do a whole boatload of misspelling. Lately = when my kids were in school and I was interacting with teachers, so it's a few years ago. I volunteered to edit their school newsletter so I could correct their errors. It really drove me mad.
Definite is correct, not "defanite" or "definate". Definite.
Of course, Bush says "newkuler", instead "new clee er".
That's why I always try and use spell checker,I'm a rotten spiller!:lol2:
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Silverdragon102, BSN
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I also hate it when they start using text, not everyone understands text and can change from one area to another as well as one country to another