pasadena city college rn program fall 2013

guiltsp · May 1, 2013

Then give your spot up to a person who isn't worried about a supplemental accreditation that doesn't matter...

Not trying to be negative but would like to hear opinions on this subject. While you say it doesn't matter I have heard differently for current RN's in the field. I wasn't really aware of the situation until recently and would greatly appreciate any information you or anyone else would have about the matter.

Thanks!

klkoniec · May 1, 2013

Anyone else worried about this program not being accedited by NLNAC? I got accepted but having my doubts now.

Here is what I have found because I have wondered similarly. It seems it isn't necessary, but it could be helpful...this is from an article from 1992 in the LA Times quoting the Chairwoman from Pierce's ADN program regarding NLNAC accredidation:

The reputation of Pierce's nursing program also contributed to the large number of applicants, Hall said. An example of its excellence is the eight-year accreditation it received in the spring from the National League for Nursing, she said. Unlike the required accreditation from the state Board of Registered Nursing, the league accreditation is voluntary.

"The voluntary accreditation is good for our students . . . some jobs are only open to league- accredited school graduates," Hall said. "It's the icing on the cake."

PIERCE COLLEGE : 200 Apply for Nursing Program - Los Angeles Times

What should I ask?

]If you are looking for a nursing program that is nationally recognized and credits that will transfer to another college, you want to attend a college that is both regionally and NLNAC or CCNE accredited.

NLN Accreditation: Does it Really Matter? | Search 7000+ Nursing Degree Programs

What does accreditation mean?

NLNAC accreditation serves to provide assurance that schools and nursing programs meet or exceed certain standards and criteria. If a program is accredited, the faculty is properly credentialed, the curriculum will prepare you for the nursing profession, and the majority of program graduates pass their licensure exams.

Other benefits of accreditation:

enables a program to improve through self-evaluation
helps a program recruit students
assures employers that graduates have competent skills
helps guide students in their job and education choices
enables transfer of education credits
helps students be eligible for financial assistance from government sources

Bachelor’s degree, graduate nursing degree, and nurse residency programs can also be accredited through the American Association of Colleges of Nursing’s Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE). This accrediting body is responsible for reviewing the overall quality of an educational program, and assuring that it has all the necessary elements in place for graduates to succeed in their profession.

How it may affect you

If you choose to attend a non-accredited program, you may not be eligible for financial aid. And you may not be able to transfer credits—particularly to an accredited program—if you decide to change programs or further your education.

Graduating from a non-accredited program may limit your job possibilities, especially if you want to work for the government. If you are a new graduate, it might pose difficulty if a hospital or other agency recruiter has to choose between you and another new nurse who came from an accredited program.

If, however, you graduated years ago from a non-accredited school but have been working as a nurse and have solid experience under your belt, whether or not you attended an accredited program may not matter to some recruiters if you want to change jobs

rebeccles · May 1, 2013

Anyone else worried about this program not being accedited by NLNAC? I got accepted but having my doubts now.

I'm actually not concerned, because I plan to continue onto a BSN and MSN after. If you're having doubts, and are accepted into another program, then I would do that other program.

klkoniec · May 1, 2013

I'm actually not concerned, because I plan to continue onto a BSN and MSN after. If you're having doubts, and are accepted into another program, then I would do that other program.

I agree, if you are planning to continue on to advanced degree programs in the long run whether you got your RN from an NLN program or not isn't going to be a big deal. I'd be more worried about going to some diploma mill trade school.

Why not look on Linkedin for people who completed their RN at PCC and see if they went on to a BSN, MSN, etc? Or if they had any issues getting a position? That's what I've done, I sort of creeped on Linkedin to see the education history of people who attended the RN program I accepted and what jobs they have and if they went on for another degree...

ShyeoftheTiger · May 1, 2013

I agree, if you are planning to continue on to advanced degree programs in the long run whether you got your RN from an NLN program or not isn't going to be a big deal. I'd be more worried about going to some diploma mill trade school.
Why not look on Linkedin for people who completed their RN at PCC and see if they went on to a BSN, MSN, etc? Or if they had any issues getting a position? That's what I've done, I sort of creeped on Linkedin to see the education history of people who attended the RN program I accepted and what jobs they have and if they went on for another degree...

Haha you and Rebeccles are much more helpful and patient than I am :)

Ladykeshar · May 1, 2013

Just got my rejection email from PCC...alls good...pretty sad and bummed out but I'm keeping my faith strong because I know God has a better plan for me...this is my third rejection, 4 more to go

guiltsp · May 1, 2013

I'm actually not concerned, because I plan to continue onto a BSN and MSN after. If you're having doubts, and are accepted into another program, then I would do that other program.

This is exactly one of the reason I am worried, some of the few programs I have look at to pursue a BSN require you to have go to an accredited ADN program for admittance.

klkoniec · May 1, 2013

Haha you and Rebeccles are much more helpful and patient than I am :)

LOL! Honestly, I understand where you're coming from. Its like, I'll take your spot! I got into Pierce and started questioning if its the right school and I caught myself and was like "Really?? You got in and you're really questioning if you should go? There are soooo many people who are still waiting and would love to trade places...So, I had to check myself!" For months I would have given anything to get in anywhere and then it happens and it's like HMMMMM.....Really?!

klkoniec · May 1, 2013

This is exactly one of the reason I am worried, some of the few programs I have look at to pursue a BSN require you to have go to an accredited ADN program for admittance.

It has to be an NLN accredited ADN program? Or will they accept CCNE?

guiltsp · May 1, 2013

klkoniec, thanks for the info! Helps

klkoniec · May 1, 2013

Just got my rejection email from PCC...alls good...pretty sad and bummed out but I'm keeping my faith strong because I know God has a better plan for me...this is my third rejection, 4 more to go

That feeling sucks...but at the same time, you are totally right that God has a better plan for you and you have 4 more schools to hear from. Keep the faith! I was rejected from a total of 6 programs before I got my acceptance. Be glad you applied to many schools!! It's gonna happen!

guiltsp · May 1, 2013

It has to be an NLN accredited ADN program? Or will they accept CCNE?

From my knowlege CCNE doesn't accredit ADN programs, they do BSN, masters and doctorate programs so yes, for instance CSUN's RN to BSN programs specifically states this.

"An associate’s degree or its equivalent from an accredited institution" this is from CSUN's application directly.