PA's trying to be included in NP act

[pedspnp]

Just had a interesting conversation with a fellow NP she insists that PA"s are trying to fall under the NP act how can that be any one else hear of this

[AbeFrohman, BSN, RN]

If we knew what was meant by "NP act" it could probably be more easily interpreted, but as it stands out of context (as in trying to achieve separation from supervision) then it's impossible.

[pedspnp]

If we knew what was meant by "NP act" it could probably be more easily interpreted, but as it stands out of context (as in trying to achieve separation from supervision) then it's impossible.

that is what she was saying so they could be independent from supervision I told her no way will that happen

[traumaRUs, MSN, APRN]

Perhaps she was referring to recent passage of legislation and signing into law the fact that APNs and PAs too can now prescribe schedule II narcotics?

[Christen, ANP]

It sounds like she is confused - there's not any particular "NP act." There are however a different NP Board with different regulations for each different state that outlines the amount of independance a NP has in each state, but PA's are not a part of that.

[traumaRUs, MSN, APRN]

In IL, the Nurse Practice Act includes all APNs: NPs, CNS, CNM, CRNA.

Lately, our legislature has lumped PAs into the mix for political purposes.

[Boatswain2PA]

I don't know either. PAs can already prescribe sched II drugs in all 50 states, so doubt that's it (although some states have limits on quantity). And, to the best of my knowledge, there is no organized push within the PA for independent practice (nor should there be!).

However, it would be great to have such a powerful, politically active, lobby group as the nurses do!

[prairienp]

I don't know either. PAs can already prescribe sched II drugs in all 50 states, so doubt that's it (although some states have limits on quantity). And, to the best of my knowledge, there is no organized push within the PA for independent practice (nor should there be!).

However, it would be great to have such a powerful, politically active, lobby group as the nurses do!

I wasn't aware PAs could rx Schedule II in all 50 states. Is this recent? Do you have a reference?

Thanks

[linearthinker, DNP, RN]

I don't know either. PAs can already prescribe sched II drugs in all 50 states, so doubt that's it (although some states have limits on quantity). And, to the best of my knowledge, there is no organized push within the PA for independent practice (nor should there be!).

However, it would be great to have such a powerful, politically active, lobby group as the nurses do!

What lobbies are these, I'd like to support them but I'm not aware of them. Neither the ANA nor the AANP seem either powerful or especially active to me. If they were, we wouldn't have to put up with the abuses and conditions that we do.

[core0]

I don't know either. PAs can already prescribe sched II drugs in all 50 states, so doubt that's it (although some states have limits on quantity). And, to the best of my knowledge, there is no organized push within the PA for independent practice (nor should there be!).

However, it would be great to have such a powerful, politically active, lobby group as the nurses do!

Thats not correct. You can find the full prescribing information here:

http://www.aapa.org/images/stories/Advocacy-state-summaries/Rx_Chart.pdf

There are 12 states that we cannot prescribe schedule II's and one state (Florida) where we cannot prescribe any schedule drugs.

For NPs if I remember correctly no schedule drugs in Alabama and Florida. Various other states have restrictions on Schedule II's.

David Carpenter, PA-C

[Kuryakyn]

that is what she was saying so they could be independent from supervision I told her no way will that happen

Why would it never happen??

[linearthinker, DNP, RN]

I don't speak for pedspnp, but Ithink b/c PAs are governed by the BOM.