Overweight nurse unable to physically manage her responsibilties

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Advice please..

We have a very heavy nurse that works in our SNF. She is very pleasant to both residents & coworkers, she is very reliable and always comes to work, picks up extra shifts when needed, etc. Her actual nursing knowledge is average at best (does need some guidance with appropriate decision making skills related to resident clinical needs). She has been employed by the facility for several years now.

The problem.. she has always been very heavy and as she has aged (probably around mid to late 50's now) she is having increasing difficulty moving about the facility and being able to manage physically providing care. She requires a cane to walk on the the unit, leans heavily on the handrails for additional support. Takes an office chair with her on med rounds so that she can sit as she is gathering meds for each resident, leans on resident beds to support herself for treatments (think both elbows on the bed propping herself up and only using her fingers) and I can't imagine she could ever do CPR.

We admittedly have been turning a blind eye to her for some time because she is really a nice lady with a big heart. Not only do we not want to "hurt her", we also have to take the whole disability act into consideration. We also know she is probably the only working adult in her family and they rely heavily on her income.

The ugly.. We can't keep ignoring this. We have had 2 family complaints within the past week. Both families saying, "although we really like Nancy nurse, we are afraid if Mom had a medical emergency Nancy Nurse will be unable to physically care for Mom." Once said her physical disability is impairing her ability to provide safe care (it takes a very extended period of time just for her to get down the hallway).

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For all you experienced managers, how do we best handle this?

Specializes in LTC.

I'm sorry I know I'm a student and my opinion isn't much but patient safety should come first before this nurse's needs.

I agree with other posters that she should have a physical completed to see if she can physically handle taking care of patients.

Nursing is a job whether you are obese or not you need to be in a physical condition where you can tend to your pts in a timely manner and provide quality of care.

I'm no thin person, I'm overweight... however I'm in good enough shape that if I need to get to a pt. quickly I can do that.

You should maybe contact the BON for counsel.

Can she take medical leave to work on her weight ?

I'm sure nurse nancy is a good nurse, and I'm also worried about her physical health too.

Please keep us posted !

Specializes in acute care and geriatric.
I'm sorry I know I'm a student and my opinion isn't much

Your opinion is worth as much as almost anyone else's out there , thanks for your input!!

Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.
Have you offered her a wheel chair to use at work? Would your insurance pay for bypass or other weight loss surgery (or knee replacement if that is the problem)?

If a nurse broke her leg skiing, she wouldn't be able to perform all the functions of her job. So, why should someone grossly overweight be given a wheel chair? While I'm not insensitive to her plight, having someone who for what ever reason is unable to perform all aspects of their job description is putting the residents and the facility at risk.

Specializes in LTC, Pedi LTC, EMS.

Wow..I have had nurses with foot fractures or other injuries work in wheel chairs...I hadn't even thought that the facility would not offer assistance to keep an injured nurse active. I worked using a wheeled walker once....and on crutches once because of injuries received outside of work. I was able to perform all assessments, feed, change bandages, etc with the devices I used. I could have done them seated in a wheel chair if needed....probably easier!...even did it all in a sling once with a rotator cuff injury. I have a couple co-workers with Fibromyalgia. Both use canes. (one is wound care nurse). One set up meds from a chair at the med cart then walked into the room to administer them....or the residents would stop by her med cart on the way to or from the dining area. Both perform their jobs very well with these mobility alterations. If I had a good nurse with a mobility problem, I would rather assist her mobility than spend the money hiring/training an unknown quantity new nurse. ...or pay OT to have other nurses pick up the vacant shifts....or, worse yet, pay agency nursing fees. When our dietary supervisor was dying from cancer, we supported her. She missed some work and everyone pitched in to help when she was out. True, she did not have the type of duties a nurse has. I guess it would really come down to whether or not this nurse could perform her job from a wheel chair. At least, I would hope that would be the case.

Specializes in Hospice, corrections, psychiatry, rehab, LTC.

The bottom line is that you have to do what is best for your unit, and the delivery of care to your patients. It sounds like this nurse has pretty much become dead weight (no pun intended), and if she is unable to perform her job she has to go to another one, whether at your facility or somewhere else. Nobody likes giving anyone the boot, especially when it is someone likeable who has been around for a long time. However, her patients' health is at stake and if she can't care for them she shouldn't be on the floor. It would be very hard to defend a lawsuit from someone she was caring for unnecessarily dying because she was unable to provide care or couldn't get to the patient in a timely manner. Saying that you kept her even after knowing her deficiencies because you felt sorry for her wouldn't be much of a defense. It may seem cold and hard, but unfortunately we often have to make such decisions as managers.

Specializes in LTC, Pedi LTC, EMS.

I strongly agree that the patients need to come first. I know that if I was unable to perform my job and it caused someone to suffer....I would be devastated! I am sure Nancy Nurse would feel the same way. I would also hope that she would be able to perform her duties safely and quickly (if mobility issues were the only real problem) if the company offered assistance with mobility. The company might also get by with not paying unempolyment if they offered her a leave so she could get treatment. (they do that for drug addicts...why not food addicts???) Assisting her mobility would probably only be a temporary help...she would need to be working on improving her own mobility, of course, if she was going to keep nursing for the long term.

Specializes in acute care and geriatric.

after all this "advice"(not meant to be derogatory). what did you do????

I'd love to hear follow up cause i personally dont think the nurse would take lightly to being offered a wheelchair...and you have to be careful not to hurt her feelings as you try to help her figure out what to do that will satisfy pt care and family demands and facility obligations.

All our advice looks good on the screen but only you know what is working on the field

So please share!!!

I always love follow up posts too :)

Specializes in Elder Care.
Advice please..

We have a very heavy nurse that works in our SNF. She is very pleasant to both residents & coworkers, she is very reliable and always comes to work, picks up extra shifts when needed, etc. Her actual nursing knowledge is average at best (does need some guidance with appropriate decision making skills related to resident clinical needs). She has been employed by the facility for several years now.

The problem.. she has always been very heavy and as she has aged (probably around mid to late 50's now) she is having increasing difficulty moving about the facility and being able to manage physically providing care. She requires a cane to walk on the the unit, leans heavily on the handrails for additional support. Takes an office chair with her on med rounds so that she can sit as she is gathering meds for each resident, leans on resident beds to support herself for treatments (think both elbows on the bed propping herself up and only using her fingers) and I can't imagine she could ever do CPR.

We admittedly have been turning a blind eye to her for some time because she is really a nice lady with a big heart. Not only do we not want to "hurt her", we also have to take the whole disability act into consideration. We also know she is probably the only working adult in her family and they rely heavily on her income.

The ugly.. We can't keep ignoring this. We have had 2 family complaints within the past week. Both families saying, "although we really like Nancy nurse, we are afraid if Mom had a medical emergency Nancy Nurse will be unable to physically care for Mom." Once said her physical disability is impairing her ability to provide safe care (it takes a very extended period of time just for her to get down the hallway).

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For all you experienced managers, how do we best handle this?

This is very disturbing to me that you assume because she is fat uses a cane holds a rail or leans against a bed that she can be a good nurse or that she wouldnt be able to perform CPR how judgemental and ignorant

I am fat and I have severe arthritis in my knees and my feet I might not move as fast as some of these young girls but should I be denied my job because someone assumes because I dont run in the halls I cant cant run a code or perform CPR take it from me in an emergencey fat people can still function and will function PLUS arent all staff memebers in your facility CPR certified so in an emergency or should she tire someone can switch places with her.

Sounds to me like your facility is just uncomfortable having a fat nurse

Specializes in LTC.
This is very disturbing to me that you assume because she is fat uses a cane holds a rail or leans against a bed that she can be a good nurse or that she wouldnt be able to perform CPR how judgemental and ignorant

I am fat and I have severe arthritis in my knees and my feet I might not move as fast as some of these young girls but should I be denied my job because someone assumes because I dont run in the halls I cant cant run a code or perform CPR take it from me in an emergencey fat people can still function and will function PLUS arent all staff memebers in your facility CPR certified so in an emergency or should she tire someone can switch places with her.

Sounds to me like your facility is just uncomfortable having a fat nurse

I don't really think the OP or the facility is uncomfortable wit having a " Fat" nurse. No where in her post did she assume anything, it seem as though she described something that she saw with her own eyes. The op seems to be very concerned about this nurse. Maybe this nurse is different from you ? As the op said she uses a wheelchair to pass meds. You can't assume that she is in the same exact shape you are in. Just my two cents. :redbeathe

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.
If a nurse broke her leg skiing, she wouldn't be able to perform all the functions of her job. So, why should someone grossly overweight be given a wheel chair? While I'm not insensitive to her plight, having someone who for what ever reason is unable to perform all aspects of their job description is putting the residents and the facility at risk.

Yep! I agree with this. If she is at the point where she cannot physically do her job as required by the job description then she needs to move on to something she can do wherever that may be.

Sadly, that is a cold hard reality.

Specializes in acute care and geriatric.

Sounds to me like your facility is just uncomfortable having a fat nurse

That was NOT my take on the OP, I understood that for years they were supportive of her work and just now are getting complaints from residents and families- something they cant ignor,

I would also find it uncomfortable if my nurse has to lean on my bed to keep from falling while giving meds and treatments.

Fat isn't the issue, its the nurses ability to do her job well

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