Out With It

Out With It is the story of a nurse who lives with Borderline Personality Disorder and the events leading up to diagnosis. The title Out With It comes from the desire to come out about Borderline Personality Disorder, which carries a huge stigma with it and the hope that the stigma will be broken. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

I sat there in library working on one of my many papers and projects that I had due. I was exhausted--exhausted physically, mentally, emotionally; I was done with it. Suddenly, a thought came to my mind to kill myself. I finished what I was doing and packed my materials up for the day and went home. I grabbed some money, told my mom I was going to study with a friend for a test I had (I put some books in a bag to make it seem realistic), and drove to the store. I picked up some duct tape, wine, beer, and cups. I went to pay for it and the cashier made a comment something to the effect of "duct tape and wine, you must be going to have some kind of party." Little did he know that I was planning to kill myself. After I left the store, I went to the ABC store and bought vodka. Then, I got on the road.

I made it approximately an hour away from where I live and then, it got dark and harder to see. I pulled off the exit and started looking for a hotel to check into. I passed the community hospital and I thought "that's where I will be taken to, if I survive or that's where my body will be taken, if I succeed." I did have a fleeting thought of going to the hospital and telling them that I was suicidal. Then, I thought "no, I want to die. I am tired of everything." I found a hotel and checked in. After I got into the room, I started pouring the wine and vodka into the cups and started drinking. I became a person that didn't mix hard liquor with anything--just straight (not shots, into cups, drinking it like a normal drink) and I drank wine in cups, as well (as opposed to wine glasses). I started feeling to affects of the alcohol.

I went into the bathroom because I started vomiting. I didn't want a huge mess on the hotel room floor. I was ready to get the bag and duct tape. The plan was to suffocate myself by putting a bag over my head and wrapping duct tape around my head. I hated myself and really thought I deserved to die. I put the bag over my head and wrapped the duct around my head as tight as I possibly could, thinking of how awful I was and how much I deserved what I was doing to myself. As I wrapped the duct tape around my head (before I got eye level--I started at my mouth and went upwards), I started seeing little petechial bruising appear around my ankles. A little voice (kind of like a conscience) was screaming "Stop! Please stop! You are going to be a nurse! Please stop!". I wanted to be a nurse more than anything. I realized at that point if I didn't get the tape off, and I survived; then, I would have no future as I was quickly running out of oxygen and would likely be in a vegetative state. I left the room and went to the front desk.

I have no clear recollection of what happened between going to the front desk and being in a room in the emergency room. While in the emergency room, I was visited by an officer from the police department. The original impression from the various personnel was that it was an attempted homicide. However, when they questioned me, I was honest. I told them it was a suicide attempt and I broke down. I remember sobbing that I needed help. They were very compassionate and promised that they would get me help.

I went through a couple day stay in the ICU, psych evaluation, and then, I was taken in a security/police car to an in-patient psych hospital as an involuntary commit. My admitting diagnosis was Major Depression. I spent three days there and the psychiatrist could not figure out what was wrong with me. I had to go to a court hearing, where they moved to have my stay extended. My request was that I be released as I was going to fail my classes if I stayed; then, there really would be problems with me being suicidal as I would have nothing. The decision was that I be released with a court order for mandatory outpatient treatment. Any violation of the order, I would go back to in-patient. I left the facility without a diagnosis.

I was compliant with the order and was completely honest in my evaluations during outpatient treatment. The psychiatrist, that I had at the time, came up with a diagnosis of Bipolar I.

It was about the time to apply for my nursing license. This was the diagnosis that went down on the application. That psychiatrist retired; therefore, he was not the one who wrote the letter to the Board of Nursing. The new psychiatrist came in and did an evaluation. He came up with a diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder and I did not have Bipolar I. The letter to the Board of Nursing, and my Board Order, reflects this diagnosis. I was offered a pre-hearing consent order (PHCO) in lieu of an informal conference hearing, in which I had to agree to enter into the Health Practitioners' Monitoring Program (HPMP). I took the deal as opposed to facing an informal conference that could end in denial of licensure. I received my Authorization to Test (ATT) and scheduled a date for NCLEX. I took the NCLEX and passed first try with 75 questions. I received my nursing license a little over a week later.

Specializes in adult psych, LTC/SNF, child psych.
Yeah, this discussion about mental illness, especially Borderline Personality Disorder, is long overdue. I went through a shock factor stage of having the dreaded Borderline Personality Disorder in the beginning. I am over that now. I am in the advocacy and empowerment stage of recovery.

I actually rather like having Borderline Personality Disorder--I think I may be the first to ever say that, but I do. I do have periods of extreme sadness (complete with loud sobbing), extreme irritability, etc.; however, no one mentions the extreme happiness that comes with it. At least I have experienced extreme happiness--almost to a point of ecstasy and bliss. People with Borderline Personality Disorder are just as creative as those with Bipolar and Schizophrenia. Having a highly stigmatized disorder has made it easier to find out who really has my back and is worth being around.

Also, I wish people would ask me about Borderline Personality Disorder and also, how it affects me personally. People have a lot of assumptions about it and more than half of them are not true. I think what happened with Borderline Personality Disorder was that a few people had a bad run in with one and then, they spread the word to stay away from people with Borderline Personality Disorder (I was told to stay away from people with BPD in nursing school--apparently, people in medical school are told that, too). So, then, it just perpetuates, and when and if, a nurse or physician comes in contact with one they psych themselves out and for lack of better words, get what they ask for. Another trait I have as a person with Borderline Personality Disorder is that I tend to pick up on peoples' emotions fast and can read people decently well--if you come up to me defensive (not only in spoken language, but body language and attitude), I will get defensive.

My therapist even admitted that she used to hate the idea of working with people with Borderline Personality Disorder. She has started to understand them better though.

It doesn't help either that the typical Borderline example is Glenn Close's character "Alex" in Fatal Attraction. That is a very extreme example. My therapist even admitted that. I have read that a better example is Young Adult with Charlize Theron.

As a psych nurse, I'm used to co-workers handing all the BPD patients in my direction, because not only do I have the patience and compassion to set appropriate limits while still being professional and therapeutic, but because I can relate and emphasize. I've been diagnosed as "personality disorder NOS" to BPD to "Axis II traits". What I know is that the symptoms are often long established patterns and often unhealthy coping mechanisms for having been dealt a ****** hand in life or living amongst a dysfunctional family.

Specializes in Gerontological, cardiac, med-surg, peds.

wish_me_luck, please tell me more about BPD from your perspective.

I have always conceptualized this disorder as someone being "stuck" in an early Erickson's stage (Trust/ Mistrust & Autonomy vs Shame & Doubt). That these people have grown up in many ways but in other ways, their personality is stuck in a primal stage of development (ie., the toddler stage). Is this true? I honestly would like to know. Thank you in advance.

It is a little of that. I know when I was little, my mom was in the military and so, she had to go to work and we had a babysitter often and also, my dad would go to his work and up into the states (we lived on an island). Then, we moved to the states, and I went to school and then, I went to daycare after. My mom would volunteer when she could at our school though. I started getting in trouble because I would get done with my work, then go around calling the other kids stupid and rolling around on the floor. My parents were having to meet with my teacher quite often (in like first grade) and then, I would get punished (quite often). I got attention from my parents though when doing that. Also, with the punitive punishment, I developed a low self esteem.I did get a dog in elementary school--3rd grade (it was more of my dog because there were two and my brother got one and I got one) and I loved her so much because I got attention and a creature who loved me. The dog got hit by a car and I was devastated. It took years (kind of embarrassing) to get over it. I know the dog got killed, but I guess somewhere in my mind, a creature left me again. In upper elementary (4-6 grades), I would call kids names and was a mean little kid. I didn't ever physically fight someone, but I would scratch people and was more verbally abusive (sorry to say) and say and do things to make people mad because it got attention. I learned from a young age, being bad got attention, being good got really nothing--more of ignoring.

I started having seizures in middle school. My parents, especially my mom, gave me attention then. In middle school and high school, my parents had marriage problems. My dad had an affair and my parents argued a lot and my brother and dad would get into physical fights and my dad moved out for a while. My parents tried marriage counseling--they like a quick fix, counseling didn't last long because counseling takes time. They did stay together, but I was the therapist, so to speak, for my mom. It was hard to have to hear adult problems and be a teenager dealing with puberty and trying to figure out relationships seeing my parents fight a lot. I had friends at school, but I never saw them after school. It was just my mom, brother, and me most of the time. My mom didn't have friends she hung out with either. It became like a clingy co-dependent relationship.

I started college and it was nice because I made friends and was more independent than I was before. But, I started having a lot of mental health issues (not just suspected--it was suspected I had BPD when I was 13) and I went in-patient voluntarily, got counseling. Stopped going because my mom didn't think it made me better. I was drinking and it started like everyday I would drink, then it switched to binge drinking. That caused problems--a couple of visits to the ER. I never developed good coping skills. I had suicide attempts, including the one I talked about earlier. The first time I ever thought about killing myself, I was 7 years old. Then, again at 12. They were thoughts, but eventually progressed into attempts in my teenage years and early 20s. I live at home and always have and it can be hard because my parents go back and forth between being supportive and the "go get a job and move out" mentality. I get confused sometimes what they want for me.

I think between the realization that if I kept at this, I was going to die (people couldn't tell me that, I had to realize that) and the intervention with Board of Nursing/HPMP (I know I have to stay on the straight and narrow, now. Messing up is not an option), I have been forced to and want to work on recovery. I am hoping that I can have a good future and happy life. I do have fleeting moments, like itsmejuli, that I just want to die (when I go by the cemetery, I imagine being dead and how peaceful that could be); but, I also would like a chance at a good life. I am holding out hope and trying to stay busy.

I don't know if I conceptualized it that much, Vicky; but, stuff like that leads to BPD.

Specializes in adult psych, LTC/SNF, child psych.
I don't know if I conceptualized it that much, Vicky; but, stuff like that leads to BPD.

I definitely agree with this. It's almost similar to a PTSD response. It's a coping mechanism that just doesn't quite fit or work, almost.

It's hard to pin point one stage that a BPD gets stuck in or one event that caused it--more like a train wreck. One event leads to another and another and before long, they are stuck in a pattern that is very unhealthy. Dolce is right.

But since personality and behavior is not really set in stone until adulthood and even in young adults there's still pliability, if caught early, it can be changed. The older a person gets without intervention, the harder it is to break the habits.

Specializes in Critical Care.

Depression and suicidal thoughts are truly a torment to a person. Stay strong, put your trust in God and your guardian angel, continue therapy and a support group. There is a ancient blessed scapular, not commonly known called The Cross or Brief of St Anthony Scapular that protects one from suicide. If you are curious about it you can learn more via a google search The Brief of St Anthony to learn the history of it and how you could get one.

I'm a nurse. I had a four-year relationship with an intelligent and successful man. About a year and a half into the relationship, he proposed, and we became engaged (went to "Tiffany's" Got the Big Ring"). I moved in with him.

What had before seemed like his love and concern for me became need and obsession. He called me 5-10 times a day. If I didn't answer he became agitated.

I loved him. I recognized that he was too possessive. I started to try and figure out why he behaved the way he did. I literally, after living with him, paged through the DSM, trying to figure him out.

EUREKA!! He's a Borderline. Every characteristic fit.

BUMMER...there is no treatment for Borderline Personality Disorder.

(People that are Bipolar take meds every day to manage themselves. People with Depression take meds every day. Borderlines don't think they need meds. He took no meds.)

When I left him, he stalked me and threatened to kill me. He looked up every person on my cell phone and called them. I had to sue him to keep him, my former fiance, a very successful man, that I loved, away from me.

Here's my question: Do you have a stable relationship with a husband or significant other to support you, now that you have been diagnosed with BPD?

Honestly, I am single...by choice, I might add. Not by choice due to my BPD, but by choice because I want to get my life together before I even consider relationships. I get asked out and "hit on" quite often--I don't pursue a relationship though because while everyone else has the job and the financial stability and are ready for a relationship, I am not. I want to have a job and be stable in all my affairs before I enter another person into the picture. I have done more of the one night stand stuff.

I am going to be brutally honest in dealing with your post--this is what gives BPD a terrible name. Family members or friends flipping through the DSM and internet and "arm chair psychiatrist" diagnosing people, which may not even have BPD. If he was never formally diagnosed BPD, then he does not formally have it. He can't say I have BPD until a psychiatrist says that. You can think it, but until it is official by a psychiatrist, then do not start spreading stuff like that. My point with this topic is that BPD is treatable--your ignorance is what gives BPD a bad name. BPD is a personality disorder, not a chemical imbalance--you should know that from school. Therefore, many people with BPD do not take meds unless symptomatic--I was on a mood stabilizer and my former psychiatrist took me off with the diagnosis of BPD. Not me, he did it. DBT and counseling is usual treatment with BPD. Works wonderful if you put effort into it.

Also, just a thought...please change your approach. When you approach something the way you did with your post, you will get a defensive person.

Okay, I explained in a PM the thing with stalking. Being honest, I used to have a confidant that I got attached to, emailed several times a day, would get mad when he didn't respond in a timely manner (sometimes calling him very inappropriate names); he eventually ignored me. I got upset and would show places he was at--it was, by definition, stalking. I didn't realize that at the time.

So, bring it to the person's attention. Do not ignore a person with BPD. Just explain what issues you are having with them and ask them how they feel. To me, I was having anxiety that he was ignoring me and I adored him. What I ended up doing after he ignored me was writing the emails, then, hit "close" and did not send them. I got what I felt and needed to say out, but never sent it. The same with keeping a notebook and writing people letters that people with BPD are irritated with. I get it out, but didn't damage a relationship. A few years went by and then, we did speak again and now that I am diagnosed and treated, I do occasionally talk to him and send him an email and he responds. I don't abuse it though, anymore.

Bottom line, it is an anxiety issue. Maybe even set aside a time for them that their time with you. If you are busy, explain that to them--ask them what they feel is an acceptable time span to go without responding to them. I had anxiety after an hour, but he was so busy and didn't mean to "ignore" me (that's what I viewed it as, he wasn't ignoring me until it got to a point where it was unhealthy behavior, such as cursing and stuff like that. Then, he purposely ignored me). Get them involved in other activities so they can meet many people and not be so focused on you.

I know, but, at the time, I was an amateur sleuth in these matters. I ended up suing the man because he put his hands on me, tried to disable my car, and hit me in the face. He was 6'2" and I 5'6". After I left him, he left threatening messages on my work phone which I saved (and later used as evidence against him). I was scared.

I sued him because he would not leave me alone. We ended up in litigation for a few years. During depositions, it was revealed that, years before, he had been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder by his own psychiatrist. The documents were all there, and the psychiatrist was ordered to testify.

I knew he was, even before we had to go through all the litigation nonsense. Once the ring was on my finger and I moved in with him, he would say, "Get the **** out of my house." So I would flee to a friend's house. Then he would call and beg me to come back because he couldn't live without me.

He would accuse me of sleeping with anyone who said "Good Morning" to me when we were jogging or riding our bikes.

Anyway, it was a good ending for me. He refused to show up in court and settled at the eleventh hour. It was a good settlement for me.

I am not exactly sure what to say to that. I guess it worked out for you in the end and glad everything is better for you now.