Published Feb 9, 2009
tellmemore
13 Posts
Hi,
I am registered nurse from India with 6 years of experience in Intensive care unit. I am currently here on H4 visa. I have through many post about related topics and i still have some questions which i would like to get answered here.
1: What is AOS ? What is EAD ? Is it same ? If not what is difference between them ?
2: I have read about retrogression and understand that it is going to be tough for Indian nurse to get work permit.
So what is current date for Indian nurses related to this ? Now if i have understood this correctly , lets say this date is X , does this mean , currently US government is processing application of the people who have applied on or before that date X ? Is it before or after ?
3: Is this date X, applicable for AOS & EAD also ? Or there is some quota say Y each year for green card. And you can apply for AOS/EAD every year and retrogression would not matter in that case ?
4: Somewhere on this forum i also read about window being open for some short period of time. What does this mean ? Does that mean they processes new application ? If that is the case and assuming that can happen again (I know this being optimistic to its max) what will be best course of action to take advanatage of such situation and get work permit done even when you are applying later than many applicants. Is there any lottery system even for green card just like H1B visas ?
5: If there is no way i can work in USA for next 5-6 years , can i at least enroll into some program which involves lots of practical education ? I do not know much about nursing education system in US, so which courses involves more practical and less theory etc ..
6: I know on f1 visa , student can work 20 hours per week and get some money.. mostly they can use it pay some expenses towards their education. I know one h4 one can study. But is one who is on h4 allowed to do this 20 hours per week work. With this at least i will be able to pay some expenses toward my education. That will at least help me get education if i could not work. Something is better than sitting idle at home.
7: Is there anyway I as Indian Nurse with 6 years expierience on H4 visa can volunteer to work in US hospitals ? If nothing above works out well i would love to persue this options also as it will allow me to be connected to profession which i love so much. My be i will not be working in any capacity and will not be responsible for any direct duties. But hust helping others .. learning new things being current etc.
All i would like to do is keep my self engaged in nursing related activities. Mostly work, if not that learn if not that help others .. . Please let me know what are all my options in this case.
Thanks,
Nurse
ghillbert, MSN, NP
3,796 Posts
Do you have the equivalent of a bachelor degree from India? If you do, as well as 6 yrs ICU experience, you MAY be able to get a work visa (H1B) - this is for professional specialists. You should be familiar with this if your husband is on H1B. If you got a job at a university-affiliated hospital, there may be no "cap" or limit to the number they can apply for (no lottery). You would have to have completed the NCLEX and Visa Screen Certificate, as well as having an RN license from your state.
There are no green cards available. There is nothing you can do about this except apply for licensure to your state, and pass the requirements such as english tests/NCLEX-RN exam.
Your husband's employer submitted AOS (adjustment of status, applying to change from H1B to green card) for him. You would then be included in his application. EAD is a work authorization document, which you get as part of the AOS process.
Unfortunately, if your husband is also Indian, the wait for a green card is VERY long.
As an H4 visa holder, you may NOT work in any capacity, including volunteering, if it's a job anyone usually gets paid for. You could go volunteer at an animal shelter, or talking to patients at a nursing home, etc. You could not volunteer in a hospital as an aide or anything (and the hospital wouldn't let you). You may study, but you can NOT work, even the 20hrs, unless you're on an F1 student visa. If you meet the requirements, you could switch to this visa.
I'd recommend you go get a one-time consultation with an immigration attorney to see what your options are.
Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN
3,181 Posts
Hospice has a volunteer training program and many RNs do donate their time.
Your Country's date is 10-15-01, if you completed an application you would be behind all the people who have been waiting since 01.
Education you need a masters in nursing to teach at any level.
HB1 specialists are not in demand in my area ( MA). It has been my experience in tough economic time these positions are eliminated.
Good Luck.
suzanne4, RN
26,410 Posts
Hospice may have a volunteer program, but the issue is with the H-4 visa, one cannot do anything where one would normally be receivng pay for it.
Thanks all for quick replies.
So here is what understood from these replies :
1: AOS and EAD are be related. Husband will go through AOS and then i can get EAD. But retrogression issue applies to AOS also not just new application from outside USA. Is this correct ?
2: So Date X for retroregression is like : government is processing applications done on that day .. one day at a time. First applied fist serve kind of. Is this correct ?
3: Yes i have Bsc degree (12 + 3+2 years of nursing education) from India. If this makes me very much eligible for H1 B application, I would be happy to persuade this option. Can you provide some more details ? What do i need to do try for H1 visa ?
4: My question about what is best course of action to take advantage of window opening (luckily or so) still remains unanswered. Any thoughts about this ?
5: So if I enroll for some nursing course on H4 i would still not be able to work those 20 hours also like F1 students.
6: So i can not even volunteer work. Even if i am not expecting money ? So what else i can do to remain connected to nursing in USA if none of these options work.
Silverdragon102, BSN
1 Article; 39,477 Posts
thanks all for quick replies.so here is what understood from these replies :1: aos and ead are be related. husband will go through aos and then i can get ead. but retrogression issue applies to aos also not just new application from outside usa. is this correct ? retrogression is affecting everyone both in the us and outside2: so date x for retroregression is like : government is processing applications done on that day .. one day at a time. first applied fist serve kind of. is this correct ?vb comes out approx 15th of the month and will indicate what date is being processed by what country as visas are allocated on place of birth. whatever the date is means applications filed before that date will be processed. 3: yes i have bsc degree (12 + 3+2 years of nursing education) from india. if this makes me very much eligible for h1 b application, i would be happy to persuade this option. can you provide some more details ? what do i need to do try for h1 visa ?for h1b you have to find a employer willing to sponsor you, not all employers will process h1b 4: my question about what is best course of action to take advantage of window opening (luckily or so) still remains unanswered. any thoughts about this ? best course of action should (although i doubt it will happen for several years) is make sure you have everything like application with state and pass nclex and vsc5: so if i enroll for some nursing course on h4 i would still not be able to work those 20 hours also like f1 students.no6: so i can not even volunteer work. even if i am not expecting money ? so what else i can do to remain connected to nursing in usa if none of these options work.will be very hard to remain connected to nursing without a visa allowing you to work thanks,nurse
so here is what understood from these replies :
1: aos and ead are be related. husband will go through aos and then i can get ead. but retrogression issue applies to aos also not just new application from outside usa. is this correct ? retrogression is affecting everyone both in the us and outside
2: so date x for retroregression is like : government is processing applications done on that day .. one day at a time. first applied fist serve kind of. is this correct ?vb comes out approx 15th of the month and will indicate what date is being processed by what country as visas are allocated on place of birth. whatever the date is means applications filed before that date will be processed.
3: yes i have bsc degree (12 + 3+2 years of nursing education) from india. if this makes me very much eligible for h1 b application, i would be happy to persuade this option. can you provide some more details ? what do i need to do try for h1 visa ?for h1b you have to find a employer willing to sponsor you, not all employers will process h1b
4: my question about what is best course of action to take advantage of window opening (luckily or so) still remains unanswered. any thoughts about this ? best course of action should (although i doubt it will happen for several years) is make sure you have everything like application with state and pass nclex and vsc
5: so if i enroll for some nursing course on h4 i would still not be able to work those 20 hours also like f1 students.no
6: so i can not even volunteer work. even if i am not expecting money ? so what else i can do to remain connected to nursing in usa if none of these options work.will be very hard to remain connected to nursing without a visa allowing you to work
thanks,
nurse
posted my answers in red, be aware even i your husband is able to file gc through employer he can not maintain h1b whilst waiting if he has been in the us and extended his h1b to 6 years. if they do not extend h1b but employer still willing to support gc application will have to return home and wait. if i remember rightly 6 years is the max for h1b and if from india current processing times is oct 01
If your husband was not already submitted for the AOS during the short open window in Summer of 2007, then there is nothing that is going to be able to do under this as well. The US actually did not have any visas available then, they had been used up by June, but were forced to accept the I-485 petitions then just during July/August and with strict requirements being met. There were just over 800,000 petitions submitted.
If you look at the Visa Bulletin that comes out every month, you will see that people with a birth country of India or China are actually retrogressed further back than others as there are already so many with pending petitions. Back about 6 years just for that as we speak.
Only thing that can get submitted at this time is the I-140 and this will not get you permission to work here. In order to get the EAD, the government must be accepting the I-485 and this is where your problem lies.
The above is for the green card.
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Next for the option of the H1-B in your case. First it is going to depend on where you are located, some areas have no H1-B visas that are used for nurses as a start. Next issue is with the sudden downturn in the economy right now, the facility would have to prove that they are unable to hire an American for the job. And this is going to be very hard for them to do.
In order to even be considered for this type of visa, you will need to pass the NCLEX exam, pass the series of English exams as well as have a Visa Screen Certificate in hand. You would have to have passed the NCLEX-RN exam before a job could be offered to you as an RN.
You must be under the F-1 visa in order to be able to work the 20 hours per week, and this requires that you attend school full-time as well. Be aware that in most locales if you are under the H-4 visa, you get local resident tuition; but under the F-1, you will be paying considerably more as well. You also do not get the permission to work immediately either, you will need to meet the requirements of the program to be able to do this.
Not sure how long that your spouse has on their H1-B visa at this time either. They are only valid for three years and can be renewed one time only.
Even though you could not get paid, if the job that you were volunteering for normally was a paid position, you would not be able to do it. You may be able to do something with disaster relief, but you would have to check with the agency to see what they are covered for.
suzanne4 and Silverdragon102 thanks a lot for your replies. That has answered almost all the question that i have for now. If i have anything more to ask, I will start new thread.
You two are doing great work and i wish you all the best.
As a favor for us, and to make it easier to follow; can we ask that you just post any other questions pertaining to this topic in this thread and not start another. It will make it easier for everyone to follow, especially us.
Thanks in advance.
(It makes it much more difficult when we find a new thread started for each question when they are all pertaining to the same issues.)